SaaS

13 statements across 10 episodes · 2 bullish · 11 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Jan 12, 2024 by Sam Lessin · across every show →

Everything said about SaaS, oldest first

Jan 12, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: SaaS cannot match previous-cycle valuations and expectations
“Like, SaaS. Like, I just think, like, SaaS is a good, and it's not that SaaS isn't viable at all. Like, SaaS is a viable business model, like, but matching it to the valuations and expectations of the last cycle.”
Sam Lessin Jan 12, 2024 ▶ 19:13 #29: Is the Year of Startup Austerity Over? What Can Save the News Business? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 21, 2024 positive
Insight
Gil: SaaS Was Just a SQL Wrapper and Still Generated Massive Value
“People say that these things are just wrappers on GPT in some cases, and you're like, well, SaaS is just a wrapper in a SQL database, and that worked out just fine for lots of people.”
Elad Gil Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 45:49 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Jun 21, 2024 negative
Insight
Lessin: Investors Erred by Assuming Infinite Customer LTV in SaaS Businesses
“The big mistake everyone made in SAS as investors is they calculated infinite LTV. They're like, once we have a customer, they are never going to turn. Right. And therefore like we can pay a lot for them and we'll have them forever.”
Sam Lessin Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 46:32 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Oct 4, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Generative code will wash out low-code, middleware, and SaaS
“Does this fuck the whole low-code, no-code movement? Yes. Absolutely. Does it fuck SaaS? Yes. Because all of a sudden, you're not using Zapier to put this shit together. It doesn't matter. Like, there's a thousand ways, there's just completely irrelevant. So a…”
Sam Lessin Oct 4, 2024 ▶ 29:09 #67: OpenAI Sets a Record and Will Apple Make Its Next Move? · More or Less Podcast
May 23, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Lessin: Traditional SaaS business models are dead because of AI
“They're like, I totally buy the like SaaS is dead story.”
Sam Lessin May 23, 2025 ▶ 51:28 OpenAI Teams Up with Jony Ive, Vibe Coding, Gemini, and More | More or Less #100 · More or Less Podcast
Aug 8, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Figma's IPO does not mean SaaS is back
“I've seen people on the internet trying to claim that SaaS is back, which is just the wrong take.”
Sam Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 10:32 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Aug 29, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Conrad: Enterprise Software Has Moved Past the Word 'SaaS'
“I would say SaaS is, you know, like, if you're an enterprise person, you're not saying the word SaaS anymore. That's dead. I mean, literally, you're not saying that. Nobody thinks that's hot, right?”
Tony Conrad Aug 29, 2025 ▶ 35:49 #114 Seed Rounds at $2B? The Dangers of AI Hype in VC With Tony Conrad · More or Less Podcast
Dec 19, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin predicts AI-generated UIs will threaten traditional SaaS business models
“And I think we're sort of rapidly moving towards a world where the UI, which largely was the entire business model of SAS for the last 10 years, most of SAS was like, I'm going to build this complex UX on top of a Postgres database, then I'm going to sell it t…”
Dave Morin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 47:05 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Jan 16, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Software sales is ending and software companies no longer exist
“Like, I think we're just at the end of software sales, right? Is the way to think about it. And like, that means you focus on community, you focus on network effects. There are things that are valuable, but like, there's no such thing as a software company any…”
Sam Lessin Jan 16, 2026 ▶ 22:28 SaaS Companies Beware: AI Is The New UI (Anthropic's Claude Code and Cowork) · More or Less Podcast
Jan 16, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Seed funds focused solely on SaaS will disappear
“Well, they're just gonna go away.”
Sam Lessin Jan 16, 2026 ▶ 22:53 SaaS Companies Beware: AI Is The New UI (Anthropic's Claude Code and Cowork) · More or Less Podcast
Apr 10, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rauch: The SaaS business model will be disrupted by AI agents
“The SAS business model definitely gets disrupted because it was predicated on selling seats.”
Guillermo Rauch Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 10:47 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Aug 7, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Lessin: Bending Spoons is well positioned to buy struggling SaaS cheaply
“I think Bending Spoons is, like, so well positioned with a public currency to pick all this shit up for cents on the dollar.”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 25:27 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Aug 7, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI labs share the exact same cap tables as SaaS companies
“It's the same. It's the same investors. It's exactly the same cap tables.”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 31:35 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
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