artificial general intelligence

also referred to as: agi

19 statements across 14 episodes · 2 bullish · 15 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Nov 17, 2023 by Sam Lessin · across every show →

Everything said about artificial general intelligence, oldest first

Nov 17, 2023 negative
Opinion
Lessin: AGI Risk Is Dramatically Overstated Compared to 'Dirty AI'
“I personally, if it wasn't obvious, I already think that the AGI risk is dramatically overstated. Right. And not what we should be talking about largely because I think I'll call it dirty AI, like dirty nukes. Which is like partial AI solutions or shitty AI th…”
Sam Lessin Nov 17, 2023 ▶ 12:35 #23: Why (and How) SMBs and Creators Will Win With AI, the New Financing Contracts, and More · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Altman pitched building AGI privately as a defense mechanism
“The story's become Ilya, The fundamentalist versus Sam, the pragmatist who just wants to build a business, because the reality is Sam Altman, the founder, even as a, you know, private conference a year ago, not even a year ago, the story was not only is the o…”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 13:06 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin predicts Microsoft will absolutely not fund AGI development
“Microsoft's not going to fund AGI”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 48:47 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: The AI research community has effectively deified AGI
“They've made the, you know AI, in particular the AGI technology into almost a sacred you know, they've almost deified this technology.”
Dave Morin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 10:33 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
May 31, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin says LLMs are not remotely close to achieving AGI
“LLMs are great. They're a really interesting breakthrough in how AI technology works, but they are not sentient even remotely. And I think that this thing you're talking about, Britt, related to it telling someone to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, this is ex…”
Dave Morin May 31, 2024 ▶ 9:18 #49: The Big Ass Calendar… and Other Things NOT to Google · More or Less Podcast
Dec 20, 2024 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Sam Lessin: Sam Altman claimed AGI was 14 months away in 2023
“I mean, I, you know, you have people like Sam Altman on stage, you know, what now, 18 months ago saying we were 14 months from AGI and all the jobs were over, right?”
Sam Lessin Dec 20, 2024 ▶ 15:09 #78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Microsoft will not fund AGI research
“Microsoft's not going to fund AGI”
Sam Lessin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 32:13 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: AI researchers treat AGI with religious deification
“The research side of the AI community has, you know, is largely a secular you know almost always talks in a deeply religious tone. They've made the, you know AI, in particular the AGI technology, into almost a sacred you know, they've almost deified this techn…”
Dave Morin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 19:56 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Jan 31, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: AI valuations are fragile because they rely on AGI narratives
“The value of AI is AGI meme-y. Like, it's not, like, it loses a show of money, but it's, like, it's okay, because, like, AGI, right? It's very memetically driven. But the problem is that, like, it's a very binary zero or infinity value, and so it's extremely s…”
Sam Lessin Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 21:19 #84: China's DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World · More or Less Podcast
Feb 28, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: AI and AGI Are Essentially Meme Coins for Rich People
“Cause I'd argue that in a lot of ways, AI and AGI is next to GameStop, the ultimate, it's a meme coin. It's a meme narrative for very rich people. It's like Silicon Valley, very rich people, venture capitalists, et cetera, needed a meme to pile a bunch of capi…”
Sam Lessin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 46:06 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Mar 14, 2025 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Altman's AGI and Musk's Mars are marketing for cheap capital
“Sam Altman sells AGI to get cheap capital, to build pretty basic AI. Elon sells Mars to get cheap capital. To build space internet and like more power to them, but it is all marketing.”
Sam Lessin Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 21:15 #90: Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 neutral
Insight
Lessin: Waymos refusing to drive to their death will signal AGI
“I think we'll probably know that the AGI has occurred when the Waymos are like, no, I'm not gonna, like, march to my death. Like, that's gonna be the sign of sentience.”
Sam Lessin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 2:44 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 negative
Opinion
Morin: Data labeling has literally nothing to do with building AGI
“I mean, I get that it's like data quality in the age of LLMs is very valuable. But again, this has nothing to do with building AGI, like literally nothing.”
Dave Morin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 35:40 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Feb 27, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI models will commoditize and price at energy cost
“The, you know, the original narrative was someone would get to AGI and then that would be the end of the game is not how this is playing out. Everyone's gonna get to the same shit. It's all commodity. It's all getting a price to the cost of energy. And it's al…”
Sam Lessin Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 13:05 Apple, OpenAI & Why Nobody Makes Money in AI | The SaaS Apocalypse · More or Less Podcast
Apr 3, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OpenAI's $850B Valuation Is Ridiculous Amid Commodity Competition
“I mean, like they're just, I just, this is like a ridiculous, this is just ridiculous. I mean, it's like, whatever, it doesn't like, if you want to buy 20 cents of infrastructure per dollar in a thing with like increasing competition where it turns out the sto…”
Sam Lessin Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 33:31 OpenAI's $852 Billion Valuation Makes Zero Sense (ClawCon Tokyo, Anthropic's Leak, Goodbye Internet)
Apr 10, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rauch: Major AI labs view coding agents as most promising AGI path
“You know, I've spoken with a bunch of people about this at every other lab and they themselves have been surprised that a coding agent was, is the most promising path to AGI.”
Guillermo Rauch Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 6:35 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Apr 10, 2026 positive
Insight
Rauch: Giving AI agents full computer access produces an AGI-like experience
“The very fascinating thing about agents is the more power an agent has, the more intelligently it performs. And so if an agent has an entire computer, like a Mac mini, it, you feel like you have AGI in your hands.”
Guillermo Rauch Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 20:57 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Jun 26, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: AGI is not happening at frontier AI labs
“AGI is not happening at any of these places.”
Dave Morin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 23:01 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: AGI is a completely meaningless term
“AGI is a meaningless term at this point. It doesn't mean anything.”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 12:12 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
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