Anthropic

106 statements across 44 episodes · 36 bullish · 38 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Aug 2, 2024 by Dave Morin · across every show →

Everything said about Anthropic, oldest first

Aug 2, 2024 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Morin: Anthropic rotates bot names to bypass web scraper blocks
“And suddenly you've got this problem that I was reading about this week where Anthropix changing the name of their bots. They're creating 10 more bots. Developers are having to, like, you know, block this bot and that bot and this name and that name. It's a bu…”
Dave Morin Aug 2, 2024 ▶ 46:04 #58: The Death of Friends · More or Less Podcast
Oct 4, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Apple and Google will win the consumer AI market
“I do buy that like anthropic or open AI might have a big play in the enterprise world, but for the consumer world of AI, those two have to be the winners.”
Brit Morin Oct 4, 2024 ▶ 21:29 #67: OpenAI Sets a Record and Will Apple Make Its Next Move? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 4, 2024 bearish
Prediction Partly held up
Dave Morin: Unprofitable OpenAI and Anthropic will be forced to increase prices
“Like at the rate they're having to raise capital and at the unprofitability of their business models, they can only increase prices from here.”
Dave Morin Oct 4, 2024 ▶ 20:30 #67: OpenAI Sets a Record and Will Apple Make Its Next Move? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 11, 2024 bullish
What-if
Dave Morin: AI coding breakthrough wouldn't exist without Claude 3.5 Sonnet
“It was Claude Sonnet that caused this to happen. Like it was to put a fine point on it. If it were not for Sonnet, this software engineering breakthrough, I don't think would be happening right now. So you can like literally go to the day that model was publis…”
Dave Morin Oct 11, 2024 ▶ 48:22 #68: Google's Antitrust Saga Continues… · More or Less Podcast
Nov 1, 2024 positive
Opinion
Morin: Claude 3.5 Sonnet was the true inflection point for AI-generated code
“I think you can actually trace the act, the true moment that the change happened to the Claude Sonnet, Anthropics Claude model called Sonnet, 3.5. That was the real moment when things, I think it was the inflection moment where suddenly the code that this mode…”
Dave Morin Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 13:51 #71: Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution · More or Less Podcast
Dec 6, 2024 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic have hit roadblocks in training models
“We've also done a series of stories recently, the information that have shown Roadbox, OpenAI and Anthropoc have hit in training. Not that they can't get through them, they work and, you know, but there are things that aren't working that we're working, right?”
Jessica Lessin Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 53:09 #76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 20, 2024 bullish
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Dave Morin: Startup developers overwhelmingly choose OpenAI's API over Anthropic
“All the developers that, you know, are, we're looking at investing in you, you're seeing it as the API that everybody's using. People talk about using the other ones, but, you know, despite Anthropic maybe having better software engineering models or Elon buil…”
Dave Morin Dec 20, 2024 ▶ 52:53 #78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions · More or Less Podcast
Feb 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Private AI Startups Trade at 40x to 150x Revenue, Dwarfing Public SaaS
“Oh, this is Anthropic, Harvey, Glean, OpenAI, and Writer. Perplexity is at more than a 150 X. They would be the outlier. And I believe public SaaS is about an eight X.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 52:54 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Mar 14, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Brit Morin: Anthropic CEO Claims AI Will Write Nearly All Code in 12 Months
“The CEO of Anthropix said, he said, In the next three to six months, AI is probably gonna be able to write 90% of all code. And in 12 months, nearly all code may be generated by AI.”
Brit Morin Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 43:23 #90: Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Apple should probably acquire Anthropic
“They should just probably buy Anthropic.”
Dave Morin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 23:42 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Apple won't acquire Anthropic because of Amazon and Google's stakes
“The problem is Anthropik's biggest investors are Amazon and Google, so that's why it's probably not gonna happen.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 23:56 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2028
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic will absolutely go public
“These will be public companies. Absolutely. And maybe sooner rather than later.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 24:28 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Jun 27, 2025 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Claude Code can autonomously re-architect entire codebases
“And it's pretty mind-blowing how powerful this tool is and how it will just go and re-architect your whole thing, make all the right directories, write all the code, ask you for input when it needs it.”
Dave Morin Jun 27, 2025 ▶ 7:06 #105: Tesla, Bumble, And Bezos' Wedding - Everything Is A Mess · More or Less Podcast
Jul 4, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Anthropic has surpassed $4 billion in annual recurring revenue
“We reported yesterday the information that Anthropic is at more than four billion in ARR”
Jessica Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 20:01 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Jul 18, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: OpenAI and Anthropic must eventually adopt advertising business models
“ChatGPT, you know, ChatGPT, by the way, like, and Anthropic, like, they're making a lot of money, but they're not making enough money to fund the capital that they're raising. And so they have to turn to advertising sooner or later.”
Dave Morin Jul 18, 2025 ▶ 29:35 #108 Meta vs. OpenAI: Who Wins the Next Attention War? · More or Less Podcast
Jul 18, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic reports 60% direct-sales gross margins heading toward 70%
“Anthropic recently said its gross profit margin from selling AI models and clawed directly to customers was 60% and moving towards 70, but this doesn't account for a lot of other shit.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 18, 2025 ▶ 30:20 #108 Meta vs. OpenAI: Who Wins the Next Attention War? · More or Less Podcast
Aug 8, 2025 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2028
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic will probably IPO before OpenAI
“I think Anthropic probably does it before OpenAI because they need it more, right? So if you put the need before, although I think Google and Amazon will continue to fund them.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 17:17 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Aug 15, 2025 positive
Opinion
The North Mission is San Francisco's new AI hotspot
“Sort of the north mission because of OpenAI and Anthropic all being over there. That's like the hot spot.”
Dave Morin Aug 15, 2025 ▶ 3:44 #112 Swift Should Buy Chrome, Not Perplexity · More or Less Podcast
Aug 29, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Conrad: Anthropic Holds an Enterprise Lead Over Competitors
“I think Anthropic actually has on the enterprise side of the equation... I think has definitely a lead here, or at least reputationally, I think it does.”
Tony Conrad Aug 29, 2025 ▶ 38:28 #114 Seed Rounds at $2B? The Dangers of AI Hype in VC With Tony Conrad · More or Less Podcast
Sep 6, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Private markets will eventually stop giving free money to AI labs
“Every six months, OpenAI and Anthropic are just testing the private markets. And at some point, the answer will not come back as here's essentially all this free money”
Jessica Lessin Sep 6, 2025 ▶ 27:48 #115 Anthropic at $170B: Should Unicorns Be Forced to IPO? · More or Less Podcast
Sep 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Anthropic's funding round is roughly 20x oversubscribed
“I mean, it looks like Anthropix, something like, 20 x oversubscribes still.”
Dave Morin Sep 6, 2025 ▶ 28:10 #115 Anthropic at $170B: Should Unicorns Be Forced to IPO? · More or Less Podcast
Sep 6, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Anthropic LPs are trading derivatives across its equity chain
“In the back channels, you've got the LPs of funds with primary positions in Anthropics selling derivatives, and then their LPs selling derivatives. There's like many derivatives being sold across the entire Anthropic equity chain.”
Dave Morin Sep 6, 2025 ▶ 22:07 #115 Anthropic at $170B: Should Unicorns Be Forced to IPO? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 24, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Gemini and Anthropic Are Trained on TPUs Rather Than GPUs
“If that's true, then the top two coding models Gemini and Anthropic are trained on TPUs, not GPUs. And I think that's a really big deal.”
Jessica Lessin Oct 24, 2025 ▶ 21:08 TPUs Are Winning? Gemini + Anthropic vs NVIDIA, and OpenAI’s Atlas Explained · More or Less Podcast
Nov 7, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin claims enterprise AI adoption is entirely driven by software coding
“It's coding. It's all code.”
Sam Lessin Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 27:22 Apple Chooses Gemini, Sequoia's Leadership Shake-up, and Meme Coins · More or Less Podcast
Nov 7, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin denies AI startups leak financial numbers to The Information
“I will say they don't give them to us. Like people always come up to me. They're like, oh, doing open AI's dirty work for them by publishing their numbers. I'm like, yeah, not really. But so VCs assume that these companies like beg us to do this. I can, I will…”
Jessica Lessin Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 26:16 Apple Chooses Gemini, Sequoia's Leadership Shake-up, and Meme Coins · More or Less Podcast
Dec 19, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin predicts SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic IPOs by 2027
“I think I've said this here by, you know, end of next year. Beginning of the next, real chance of SpaceX IPO, OpenAI IPO, Anthropic IPO.”
Jessica Lessin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 23:09 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Dec 19, 2025 bullish
Prediction Held up
Brit Morin predicts Apple will acquire a major AI company like Anthropic
“Speaking of Apple, I think they come back next year, both in the AI realm, like they're going to make either one big acquisition, like an topic.”
Brit Morin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 16:43 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Dec 19, 2025 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Anthropic's focus on software engineering was a huge breakthrough
“Their choice to focus on software engineering was a huge breakthrough.”
Dave Morin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 14:55 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Jan 9, 2026 neutral
Prediction Held up
Brit Morin: Gemini and Anthropic will match OpenAI's health data integration
“Gemini's gonna do this. Anthropoc's gonna do this.”
Brit Morin Jan 9, 2026 ▶ 49:21 Founders Beware: Illiquid Valuations vs. Real‑World Taxes · More or Less Podcast
Jan 9, 2026 negative
Opinion
Lessin: Claude Code makes the commoditization of software the final boss
“Claude Code makes it the final boss.”
Sam Lessin Jan 9, 2026 ▶ 25:42 Founders Beware: Illiquid Valuations vs. Real‑World Taxes · More or Less Podcast
Jan 16, 2026 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin says he definitely does not trust OpenAI
“I actually do kind of trust Anthropic, but not as much. I definitely don't trust, you know, OpenAI.”
Sam Lessin Jan 16, 2026 ▶ 14:23 SaaS Companies Beware: AI Is The New UI (Anthropic's Claude Code and Cowork) · More or Less Podcast
Feb 20, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Morin: Anthropic claims software engineering jobs will vanish in 12 months
“Anthropic says no one will be doing software engineering 12 months from now.”
Dave Morin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 32:56 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Feb 20, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic and Pentagon are clashing over terms of use
“Ok, so yes, Anthropic and the Pentagon are fighting over terms of use. Meanwhile, XAI and everyone else are tripping over themselves to get these government contracts.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 44:18 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Mar 20, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Claude will pass OpenAI in ARR within two months
“Something would have to change in a dramatic fashion for Claude to not cross OpenAI in the next two months. Like, something weird would have to happen.”
Sam Lessin Mar 20, 2026 ▶ 40:50 Nvidia’s GTC Was “Taylor Swift for Straight Men” (Apple, OpenAI, and OpenClaw News) · More or Less Podcast
Apr 3, 2026 negative
Opinion
Morin: Anthropic Leaks Are Marketing Strategy Rather Than Real Leaks
“This sure looks like a marketing strategy to me, not a leak strategy.”
Dave Morin Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 7:58 OpenAI's $852 Billion Valuation Makes Zero Sense (ClawCon Tokyo, Anthropic's Leak, Goodbye Internet)
Apr 3, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Anthropic's Claude Code Source Leak Was a Legitimate Mistake
“Well, no, the cloud code thing I think is like a legit fuck up, right? Like you don't leak your source code.”
Sam Lessin Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 8:24 OpenAI's $852 Billion Valuation Makes Zero Sense (ClawCon Tokyo, Anthropic's Leak, Goodbye Internet)
Apr 10, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Rauch: Anthropic long refused to support agents.md, requiring claude.md files
“For example, I don't know if they've adapted yet, but Anthropic for a long time was not playing ball with agents.md. You could only call their instructions claude.md.”
Guillermo Rauch Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 15:35 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Apr 10, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rauch: AI model providers cannot sustain flat subscription pricing
“By the way, one prediction that I, that I'll make is that it's going to continue to get more and more complicated for them to sustain the subscription thing, because it's almost an impossible problem.”
Guillermo Rauch Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 12:02 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Apr 10, 2026 positive
Insight
Dave Morin: Agent personality and memories must be portable across models
“Because like one of the other things that we're seeing a lot of is that, you know, if Anthropic decides that they need to shift their business model or whatever, whatever intelligence you're using underneath your agent, you still want its soul and its memories…”
Dave Morin Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 27:30 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Apr 10, 2026 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: Nobody was prepared to handle agentic workloads
“Agentic workloads are something that I think nobody was prepared to handle from an infrastructure perspective.”
Dave Morin Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 4:29 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Apr 10, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Morin: Anthropic cut off OpenClaw access for Claude Pro and Max users
“And days later, Anthropic announced that they are shutting off access for Claude Pro and Max users who are Open Call users to use their product.”
Brit Morin Apr 10, 2026 ▶ 4:08 Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Apr 17, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Morin: Portfolio companies showed full migrations to Anthropic by December
“I I've been in board meetings a lot recently with companies who are like, yes, we're fully moved over to Anthropic. And it's like, they show the chart of when everything moved over. And it was like in December”
Brit Morin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 28:37 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Morin: Anthropic is raising at an $800B valuation
“And Anthropic this week, I heard, is also now raising at an eight hundred billion.”
Brit Morin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 25:23 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: SpaceX IPO will be seen as a bellwether for Anthropic and OpenAI
“The other thing I hear that wasn't obvious to me is how much this will be seen, this IPO will be seen as a bellwether for Anthropic and OpenAI”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 24:54 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Public market investors are trimming Mag 7 for upcoming mega IPOs
“And I gotta say by and large, and it's anecdotal, but there are enough of them. They are very, very excited about these companies and they're selling down their mag seven positions a little bit to, or preparing to like go all in on these companies.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 14:48 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Leaked OpenAI memo targeted Anthropic's ARR math and compute investment
“There was a memo that was leaked from OpenAI, an OpenAI memo that was leaked. I think it was in OpenAI's interest for this memo to be out there. I also think it was written in a way where they wanted it to be out there, where they came after Anthropic. Both fo…”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 27:05 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Pricing will push enterprises toward cheap AI models
“But I also think at some point pricing will play a way, way bigger role in this. And these total anthropic and open AI bills, like don't acknowledge that for many, many things you're going to use cheap models.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 29:43 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Anthropic faces major compute capacity issues
“Anthropic has major capacity issues.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 26:16 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
May 1, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Dave Morin compares Anthropic's AI safety narrative to Catholic Church fear tactics
“The Catholic Church's narrative that was so successful for multiple, whatever, many hundreds of years was a Doomer narrative, and that the anthropic Doomer narrative basically uses the exact same fear trick in order to create a similar narrative, and that mayb…”
Dave Morin May 1, 2026 ▶ 48:26 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 1, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Dave Morin predicts insane returns for Google from SpaceX and Anthropic investments
“Even just the returns that they're going to see from their SpaceX and Anthropic investment is insane.”
Dave Morin May 1, 2026 ▶ 39:47 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 1, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin claims Anthropic has officially surpassed OpenAI as biggest AI company
“Anthropic passed open AI.”
Sam Lessin May 1, 2026 ▶ 11:41 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 1, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin says Google Cloud's earnings growth was heavily driven by Anthropic
“Apparently Google Cloud is up because of Anthropic.”
Jessica Lessin May 1, 2026 ▶ 44:37 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 1, 2026 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin says Anthropic is buying spot compute, hurting their own margins
“Anthropic is so underserved in compute that they're buying, like, in last minute deals and on the smart market and all that kind of stuff, which is bad for their margin, but is good for the providers.”
Jessica Lessin May 1, 2026 ▶ 44:59 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Musk and SpaceX Dedicated 100% of First Colossus Project to Anthropic
“We have seen perhaps the strangest AI compute deal to date, which is Anthropic Colossus. So SpaceX, Elon Musk. Have given over their first Colossus project. 100%. Not like 40%.”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 5:05 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
May 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic represent half of major cloud deal backlogs
“And then we charted of the, we just had earnings, of the backlogs in deals for Microsoft, Oracle, Google, and Amazon, what percentage are OpenAI's commitment and Anthropi's commitment? It's together, they're about half, ok?”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 34:38 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Anthropic engineers in middle America will need security forces
“The anthropic engineers will go to middle America and they're going to need a large security force.”
Sam Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 30:24 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: Enterprise Teams Contradict AI Labs' Two-Year AGI Timelines
“The entire message is that AI is so good. It's going to AGI and take care of itself. And if that's true, then starting a deployment company is the worst idea you could possibly have because it will be deploying itself In two years.”
Dave Morin May 15, 2026 ▶ 27:42 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic secured a compute deal with Akamai
“Guys, Anthropic is getting the compute. They did deal with Akamai.”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 14:21 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Jessica Lessin prefers owning Anthropic over SpaceX at a $1T valuation
“I do think I'd rather own Anthropic at a trillion than SpaceX at a trillion.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 37:59 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic has line of sight to $100B in revenue
“Anthropic will, they have line of sight to a hundred billion in revenue, like, no question, kind of. Like, I don't, I mean, they're not gonna, like, hit that this year or whatever, but, like, that's not a crazy thing for them, and their growth is accelerating,…”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 42:23 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic will soon seek trillion-dollar valuations
“So you have these two AI companies that in really short order are going to be trying to convince public investors they're worth more than a trillion dollars, and they're going to have extraordinary revenue growth to back that up.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 23:11 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Anthropic is currently the top winning AI company
“The number one winning company right now in AI, I think, is Anthropic. And they're actually shockingly focused, right? Like, it's cloud code. Very pure play.”
Sam Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 20:09 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Morin: Anthropic faces platform problem as downstream companies lack revenue
“And it's just the truth. Like Anthropic is making all of the money and none of the companies being built on top of it are making revenue that exceeds their revenue. And so you've got a really serious platform problem.”
Dave Morin May 22, 2026 ▶ 26:20 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Anthropic Is Closing Another Financing Round
“We're going to circle back to this because we have a lot, and I just think Anthropic must, which is, by the way, closing another round as we speak, must be in the mix, but everyone is feeling good.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 2:38 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Retail investors will hate-invest in Anthropic as job-displacement hedge
“What people are going to view is like, I might be out of a job, so I better own an anthropic stock, right? Like it's going to be the, and they're going to hate it, but they're going to do it. Cause it's like, that's their hedge. So it is a hate invest, but the…”
Sam Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 31:12 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026
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Sam Lessin: $1T is Anthropic's top valuation, SpaceX's absolute bottom
“Well, to be clear, a trillion is the top of the current Anthropik price and the by far bottom of the current SpaceX price.”
Sam Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 38:05 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Andrej Karpathy has officially joined Anthropic
“Did you guys see Karpathy went to Anthropic?”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 37:25 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Anthropic and OpenAI Tokens Cost Five Times More Than Google's
“Wildly expensive, right? Like compared to- Five X. Five X Google.”
Sam Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 48:03 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 29, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
US national security establishment relies heavily on Anthropic despite DoD tensions
“While you have the fight between Anthropic and DoD over these various guardrails that Anthropic was insisting on, it's still the case that much of the national security establishment relies on and loves Anthropic models, and they want to keep using them, and t…”
Amir Efrati May 29, 2026 ▶ 5:44 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
May 29, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Anthropic possesses an unreleased frontier AI model called Mythos
“We have the whole scenario now where there is a model that exists called Mythos. Nobody really has it except for Anthropic, and who knows if the actual real model as opposed to distilled versions of it that they give access to will ever kind of come out, and m…”
Amir Efrati May 29, 2026 ▶ 16:47 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
May 29, 2026 bullish
Opinion
AI and data center investments are literally sustaining the US economy
“If Anthropic were to fail, that would have a massive cascading effect on the entire economy and AI and data centers in general are what is literally keeping this economy going.”
Amir Efrati May 29, 2026 ▶ 16:20 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
May 29, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Anthropic's high token pricing is driven by severe server capacity limits
“Anthropic is also up against scaling problems where they are unable to scale their downtime is It's really, really bad. You can just go look at their website and look, they've got demand through the roof, product market fit through the roof. Right. And so the …”
Dave Morin May 29, 2026 ▶ 15:40 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
May 29, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Anthropic has completely overtaken OpenAI in revenue
“So I'm just curious how you reconcile what you were saying about the costs and everything with just the unprecedented growth that Anthropic has seen and the like flippening with open AI where it has just completely overtaken open AI from a revenue perspective.”
Amir Efrati May 29, 2026 ▶ 20:02 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
May 29, 2026 negative
Opinion
Anthropic exploited the Catholic Church for marketing with Pope appearance
“It's actually the story because the Pope shouldn't have had anybody on stage with him, let alone, you know, one of many of these different researchers providers. And so I really think that the church was taken advantage of, and it became a marketing moment for…”
Dave Morin May 29, 2026 ▶ 8:53 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
Jun 5, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Frictionless switching will force AI token spending to rationalize quickly
“So obviously the future is not going to be like, you just send all of your stuff to the most expensive model, right? So this stuff should rationalize really quickly. And the fact that it's so frictionless means that it should rationalize financially way faster…”
Sam Lessin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 21:36 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 5, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Anthropic tokens cost 100 times more than open-source tokens
“Anthropic tokens cost like a hundred times as much as like the open source tokens, right?”
Sam Lessin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 21:21 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 5, 2026 neutral
Insight
Lessin: Opaque ROI creates temporary defensibility for expensive AI models
“Ironically, the fact that there's no demonstrable, measurable ROI is in some ways this weird moat for a while, because you're like, well, I can pay a 100th as much, but I can't actually measure the value of this token versus that token in from an ROI perspecti…”
Sam Lessin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 21:59 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 12, 2026
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2026
OpenAI and Anthropic Are Both Targeting an October IPO
“I think all of that is smoke and mirrors. And I think they're probably on a very conventional IPO timeframe, putting them at October ish alongside anthropic.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 15:56 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Jun 12, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Except for OpenAI and Anthropic, AI Companies Are Just Arms Dealers
“Well, I think that if you're anyone other than OpenAI and Anthropic, you are now an arms dealer in the AI race, right? You're either selling access or you're renting access to your giant H 100, H 200 clusters, right? Or you are giving people access to the mode…”
Dave Morin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 5:44 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Jun 12, 2026 negative
Opinion
Anthropic Stole OpenAI's Original Fear-Based Fundraising Strategy
“Anthropic stole the fear message from them. Like, they out, Anthropic outfeared them, which was originally OpenAI's strategy.”
Sam Lessin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 19:34 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
U.S. government bans Anthropic foreign nationals from accessing frontier models
“The government's now said That foreign nationals inside Anthropic can't have access to it.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 35:06 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI and Anthropic privately whisper near-term IPO timeframes
“They're gonna Set the benchmark, you know, they're going to set the roadmap, the playbook for anthropic and open AI, which are waiting in the wings and privately whispering timeframes that are quite sooner rather than later.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 20:15 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jun 26, 2026 neutral
Insight
Lessin: Anthropic employees will make fortunes simply because they could not sell
“There's a bunch of people who are gonna make a ton of money on anthropic purely because they didn't have the time To sell.”
Sam Lessin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 42:14 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jul 3, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Frontier AI lab revenues will shift significantly over the next 6-12 months
“And I think you'll start to see the revenues shifting quite a bit over the next six to 12 months.”
Brit Morin Jul 3, 2026 ▶ 46:42 Every CTO Is Quietly Switching Off Anthropic and OpenAI | GLM 5.2, Vox Americanus, Claude Fable 5 · More or Less Podcast
Jul 3, 2026 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Developers are quietly replacing Claude Opus 4.8 with open-source GLM 5.2
“Everyone that I've been interacting with and many people across the open clock community are switching it out for Opus four dot eight and they don't notice a difference.”
Dave Morin Jul 3, 2026 ▶ 41:33 Every CTO Is Quietly Switching Off Anthropic and OpenAI | GLM 5.2, Vox Americanus, Claude Fable 5 · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 negative
Opinion
Lessin: Anthropic is winning the AI race, not OpenAI
“He's not a real company like Google or Open or Meta or someone who actually five percent is meaningful, and he's not even winning the pure AI race. It's an anthropic is.”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 8:35 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic fear Chinese AI models undercutting them
“Anthropic and open AI are worried about the Chinese models undercutting them.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 12:40 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Brit Morin: Anthropic and OpenAI valuations are unwarranted
“None of them are real companies that warrant the valuations they have.”
Brit Morin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 3:15 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Tech is pursuing political regulatory capture over market capitalism
“This is what I don't like about our moment in history, is I don't think we're playing capitalism anymore. Like, I think we're playing some, like, political capture game that is way less interesting than capitalism, right?”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 13:34 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2026
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic will go public by September
“Anthropic will go public. I would be shocked if they're not public in September.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 2:55 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 neutral
Insight
Sam Lessin: A real company is one you can successfully sue
“A real company is very simple. A real company is a company you can sue, and you get paid if you win the lawsuit.”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 5:05 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic is profitable
“But anthropic is profitable.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 3:42 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Jul 24, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Big Frontier AI Labs Are Economically 'Fucked'
“This isn't a technical commentary, but from like a business and economics perspective, I think all the big labs are fucked.”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 31:34 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
Jul 31, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: AI Competitors Distance Themselves as Anthropic Faces D.C. Scrutiny
“Everyone's just trying to say like, we are not anthropic in some way because anthropic is winning and anthropic also has some of the biggest problems in Washington.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 17:28 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Jul 31, 2026 negative
Opinion
Morin: Anthropic Is Guided by Anger and Spite Toward OpenAI
“So much of what anthropic does is guided by anger and spite towards open AI and the people involved in open AI.”
Dave Morin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 19:27 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Aug 7, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic and OpenAI IPO wealth will worsen brand backlash
“And you're gonna go into epic wealth generation Anthropic IPO, which isn't going to help the issue. And then same for open AI. So I don't know how you fix the image.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 41:19 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Anthropic focuses entirely on large enterprises, ignoring small businesses and press
“Anthropic decided to be Microsoft and to become an enterprise company. My understanding is that they focus entirely on their largest enterprise customers and that they don't care about press. They don't care about smaller enterprise customers or small business…”
Dave Morin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 26:24 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Former Fed Chair Ben Bernanke sits on Anthropic's board-appointing trust
“It's the Anthropic Trust. It's just a group of, I think there are five, but they've only filled three people who pick the board members, and one of them is Ben Bernanke, fun fact.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 22:12 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI is struggling to win enterprise clients away from Anthropic
“I keep hearing anecdotally that they're having trouble getting customers to switch from anthropic, even on a credible terms”
Jessica Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 26:09 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Anthropic founders and trust will retain super-voting power post-IPO
“And this trust is also going to maintain some of that power in an IPO, which will also give the co-founders super voting shares.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 22:23 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eric Schmidt invested in Anthropic through a relationship with Dario Amodei's wife
“Her romantic turned business relationship with Eric Schmidt that led to the, his investment in Danthropic to crossing paths briefly with Jeffrey Epstein in terms of pitching him on her company.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 25:22 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
AI market faces correction because infrastructure capex far outpaces enterprise use
“I think you're going to see a retraction in the market. Like you're going to see we've built out a dramatic amount of infrastructure. A huge, you know, three trillion, four trillion dollars of capex has gone into this, and everyone rushed in, and they're tryin…”
Dave Morin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 49:09 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Sep 4, 2026 positive
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2027
Lessin: Anthropic's IPO is around the corner
“You may also want to know the Anthropic IPOs around the corner, so this may seem like a relevant fact.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 28:25 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
Sep 4, 2026 bearish
Insight
Suds: Invest in whatever extends OpenAI and Anthropic revenue, avoid app layer
“My general working thesis was like, you should probably just invest in anything that Enables or extends like Anthropic and OpenAI's revenue. And then the hedge to that would be open source. So just go over there and the app layer stuff by and large do not enab…”
Sudarshan "Suds" Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 32:12 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
Sep 4, 2026 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: Anthropic Is the Anti-Free Speech AI Company
“Sam, we've always known that Anthropic is the anti-free speech company.”
Dave Morin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 10:46 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
Sep 4, 2026 positive
Insight
Sam Lessin: Customer support will drive stickiness for non-technical AI software
“Here's the really interesting insight I thought, which is customer service might be what matters. Meaning like most humans, like your mom, if something breaks an anthropic, there is never going to be anyone to call. It's why they can have like 12 employees and…”
Sam Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 49:14 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
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