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Google would have crushed OpenAI by giving Noam Shazeer half its TPUs
“That muscle did not exist during my time at Google. And I think had they had it, what they would have done would be say, hey, Noam Shazir, you're a brilliant guy. You know how to scale these things up? Like, here's half of all of our TPUs. And then I think the…”
Google's internal compute credit market caused it to miss GPT
“This is a thing that has been tried internally within Google, and it led to Google missing GPT.”
Google DeepMind's six-month internal embargo shelves commercially valuable research papers
“I mean, what's worse is the paper is actually not even being Published anymore because there's a six month embargo inside of DeepMind, right? Like we've heard about this where a paper comes out and then I think there's a six month embargo window where if anybo…”
Parakhin: Liquid AI could beat frontier models with equal compute
“I think if they if they had similar level of compute, they would be very competitive and maybe even beat the largest models, at least from what I've seen.”
Patel: Google will have zero free cash flow in 2027 due to AI CapEx
“There's no reason why Google will have any profit in 27 at all, right, in terms of cash flow. They will just spend every dollar they make On, on AI infrastructure.”
O'Laughlin: Google and Meta will see free cash flow drop to zero
“Google, I would argue, is going to free cash with zero. I think Meta will go to free cash with zero.”
Hill-Smith: Google used unpublished 32-shot CoT to claim Gemini beat GPT-4
“Back when I'm Googled a Gemini one when I ultra and needed a number that would say it was better than GPT four. And Like, constructed I think never published, like, chain of thought examples, 32 of them in every topic in MLU to run it, to get the score.”
Gorkem: Hosting LLMs is a bad business due to Google search competition
“Language models, hosting language models is not a good business. At the time we thought, okay, we are going to be competing against OpenAI and Anthropic and all these labs. Turned, turned out that it was even worse because the killer application of language mo…”
Bryk: Perplexity and ChatGPT Search rely on legacy Google and Bing APIs
“So these systems, there are a few of them now they basically rely on like traditional search engines like Google or Bing, and then they combine them with like LLMs at the end to, you know, output some power graphics answering your question. So they, Like, Sear…”
Howard: TensorFlow 2 was a failure that Google avoided internally
“Then in the end, you know, Google didn't follow through, which is fair enough, like, asking everybody to, you know, learn a new programming language is going to be tough, but, like, it was very obvious, very, very obvious at that time that TensorFlow II was go…”
Howard: JAX was a grassroots Google reaction against TensorFlow 2
“But I mean, in the meantime, I will say, you know, Google now does have a backup plan. You know, they have JAX, which was never a strategy. It was just a bunch of people who also recognized TensorFlow two as shit, and they just decided to build something else.”
Kant: Major AI labs did not prioritize RL for LLMs three years ago
“And the second was that reinforcement learning was going to be the biggest driver for LLM capabilities. Today, very obvious three years ago was not an opinion held or direction held at either OpenAI or Google or Anthropic or others.”
Most AI clusters fail to hit Google's 96% node utilization standard
“My co-founder, Seb came from he built the Borg export GQM scheduler at Google, and there, I think, 95% was considered an outage, so 96% node utilization is, should be standard, and most single-time clusters are not running at that”
Open-source AI demand spiked on hype before reverting to frontier labs
“Like all the open source models, I think what happened was they got like very hyped and people were very interested in using them. But I think like over time, like there was a spike in usage for these models. And then it goes back to open AI, Anthropic and Goo…”
Patel: Nvidia must vastly outperform rivals to overcome vertical integration
“Google, Amazon, they get to vertically integrate, integrate, and vertical integration always saves tons of money. So he has to be better than everyone. By, not just like a little bit, by a ton. To justify his margins. Otherwise, the vertical integration of his…”
Patel: Google will buy tons of GPUs through 2027 due to TPU limits
“When we look in 26, Google would buy a lot more TPUs, but they can't ramp production fast enough, right? And so they have to buy tons of GPUs. And we go to 27, it applies again, right? Google simply cannot buy enough TPUs, and they have to buy tons of GPUs.”
Patel: Google and Amazon will borrow debt to fund AI infrastructure
“Google and Amazon haven't taken on debt yet for AI infrastructure, but they will, right?”
O'Laughlin: TPU v8 will not compete as well against Nvidia Rubin
“V-A we just don't think will be as competitive to Ruben, and that's when your special window starts to close.”
O'Laughlin: Google TPU business could be worth $1 trillion
“I've done the math. It could be like, it's like a trillion. It's like a trillion. It's like a trillion or something like that. Assuming it gets like 30% market share or something like that.”
Arena's anonymous Nano Banana test moved Google's stock and product roadmap
“I mean, that moment alone changed Google's like roadmap. Market share. Seriously. I mean, Google stock, billions of dollars are moving because of Nano.”
Yegge: Google, Anthropic, and OpenAI are unbelievably chaotic internally
“All three of those companies, Google, Anthropic, and OpenAI are unbelievably chaotic internally right now.”
Sohmers: Google Veo and Imagen 3 are pure autoregressive transformers, not diffusion
“A lot of things have actually been moving away from diffusion to being pure autoregressive transformers for image and video generation. So like the latest, yeah, there's a VO three and since image and three on, on Google side have been pure autoregressive movi…”
Scott Wu: No customer or training data was shared in Windsurf transaction
“There was no, no, no information that was given out, for example, in terms of customer data, training data, any things like that. And so, so, you know, all of that is, is, is strictly proprietary and then remains, you know, our exclusive access.”
McCloy: Gray-Hat SEO Tactics Currently Work in AI Search
“In terms of like some of the more gray area SEO tactics like that, you know, Penguin was addressing with Google back in the day. I mean, I think the reality is a lot of those things do work today. Like I can't tell you they don't work, but I would say as like,…”
Kilpatrick: Google's strategy is building Gemini as one single unified model
“Like we're here to make one model and like that model is Gemini.
And like, I think you do need to just trust this point, like to make the capabilities work in some cases, like you do need to have these forks that like go off and make that capability and harde…”
Conrad: OpenRouter open-source traffic required only around 10 H100 nodes
“The entirety of Open Router that was not Anthropic or Google like, or Gemini or OpenAI or something. It was like, 10 H 100 nodes or something like that. It's just, like, not that much. It's like, not that many GPUs, actually, to service that entire demand.”
Embeddings will not scale for cross-session memory in real-time AI systems
“I don't think that like embeddings are going to be able to scale to, I think they work well for some of this as like kind of the MVP version of the experience, but I think you're going to need a different experience and it's Probably something like really smar…”
Yi Tay: Llama 3 shows Meta may have caught up to Google
“So I think I don't really follow, like, fine much, but I think that, like, Lama Tree actually shows that, like, kind of, like, Meta got a pretty, like, a good stack around training these models you know, like, oh, and I've even started to feel like, oh, they a…”
Chintala: Open source cannot beat Google's feedback distribution advantage
“Probably doesn't have a chance against Google, because, you know, Google has Android, and Chrome, and Gmail, and Google Docs, and everything, you know. So people just use that a lot.”
Patel: Google targets 2027 to exit Broadcom partnership after 2025 attempt failed
“Their latest target to get away from Broadcom is twenty-twenty-seven, right? But like, you know, that's four years from now. Chip design cycle is four years. So they already tried to get away in twenty-twenty-five, and that failed.”
Patel: Google will have more compute than any company by far
“Google is gonna have more compute than any other company in the world, period, by, like, a large, large factor.”
Google developers internally use a coding tool called Jet Ski
“They use an internal thing called jet ski. And I mean, the simple reason is they have internal versions of everything else. And so if they actually train the, they release the internal version to the external world, it would just make no sense. Like it would j…”
Eskildsen: Turbopuffer ANN v3 searches 100B vectors with 40ms p50 latency
“ANN v. Three can search a hundred billion vectors with a p-fifty of around 40 milliseconds and a p-ninety-nine of 200 milliseconds. Maybe other people have done this. I'm sure Google and others have done this, but we haven't seen anyone at least not in like a …”
Patel: Google and Amazon stocks dropped 10% on combined $380B CapEx
“Google announced a hundred and eighty billion of capex. The stock went down and then Amazon announced two hundred billion of capex and their stock went down. Like, I want to say like 10%.”
Dean: Adding training data for hundreds of languages displaces other model capabilities
“We're always making these kind of you know, trade-offs in the data mix that we train the base Gemini models on. You know, we'd love to include Data from 200 more languages and as much data as we have for those languages. But that's going to displace some other…”
Dean: Next-gen Gemini Flash matches or beats prior-gen Gemini Pro
“For multiple Gemini generations now, we've been able to make the sort of flash version of the next generation as good or even substantially better than the previous generations pro, and I think we're gonna keep trying to do that because that seems like a good …”
Jeff Dean: Gemini was designed to ingest Waymo LIDAR and robotics telemetry
“I think one of the things about Gemini's multimodal aspects is we've always wanted it to be multimodal from the start. And so, you know, that sometimes to people means text and images and video sort of human-like and audio, audio, human-like modalities, but I …”
Dean: AI systems will achieve 20x to 50x lower latency
“And I think, you know, in the future we'll see models that are, and underlying software and hardware systems that are 20 x lower latency than what we have today, 50 x lower latency.”
White: Co-Scientist uses LLM ranking while Robin filters with data and literature
“In co-scientists, their filtration process was other LLMs sort of ranking it with rubrics or like personas. And our filtration process was like literature search and data analysis.”
Hill-Smith estimates Gemini 3 Pro parameter count hits 5 to 10 trillion
“You might reasonably form a view that there's a pretty good chance that Gemini three pro is bigger than that, that it could be in the five to 10 trillion parameter range. To be clear, I have absolutely no idea, but just based on this chart, like that's where y…”
Google and Microsoft are already running MCP at millions of requests
“And we know from like some companies like the Googles of the world, the Microsoft of the world, they're doing MCP at a scale that I can't tell you the numbers, but it's like in the million of requests.”
Yegge: Google improved execution by finally holding its engineers accountable
“Google has turned it around on, on execution. They finally did the thing that they should have done, you know, 15 years ago, which is hold people accountable. And it's not just engineers do whatever they want all the time, which is what it was for 20 years.”
Ermon: Google's Gemini Diffusion benchmark numbers match early Mercury Coder results
“They've released some benchmark numbers. They seem to be pretty close to the numbers that we were getting with the Mercury Coder back in some, you know, back in early this year.”
McCloy: ChatGPT user experience is vastly superior to Google search
“The experience people have of using ChatGPT versus, like, Browsing the internet, sort of the old Google 10 blue links and clicking around is like vastly more positive, you know, compared to the past.”
Justine Moore: Creators choose Fal and Replicate over Google's $125 Veo plan
“What we see is, like, a ton of creators are just going to the model enablement layer, whether it's a consumer-facing interface, like CREA, or more of a developer-facing interface, like a FALL or a Replicate, where you can generate Like, videos on a one-off bas…”
Morris: Open model creators do not use differential privacy or anonymization
“I would be extremely surprised if they do any type of like private training. Like there are these mechanisms for doing like differentially private language model training, or even just anonymization in the pre-training pipeline. I bet they don't do any of that…”