China

40 statements across 27 episodes · 11 bullish · 11 bearish · 25 people on the record · first statement Jul 24, 2016 by Veronique Rivet · said 281 times in 63 episodes since 2015 · across every show →

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Everything said about China, oldest first

Jul 24, 2016
Assertion Supported
Rivest: China is the world's sixth or seventh largest wine producer
“China is the sixth or seventh, ah, world's largest producer of wine today.”
Veronique Rivet Jul 24, 2016 ▶ 13:44 #12 Véronique Rivest: Wine Lessons
Feb 21, 2018
Assertion Supported
Half of Emotional Expressions Are Universal; 25% Are Culturally Specific
“Across these five different cultures, China, India, Japan, Korea, the U S really different cultural systems. About 50% of any expression that an individual would admit is this universal expression, you know, where if you get embarrassed, you turn your head awa…”
Dacher Keltner Feb 21, 2018 ▶ 14:59 #29 Dacher Keltner: Survival of the Kindest
May 2, 2018
Assertion Partly supported
Collison: China's Special Economic Zones Were Inspired by Western Ireland
“One of the world's first special economic zones was created in Shannon, which was very close to, you know, maybe 10, 15 miles from where I was born. Deng Xiaoping visited it and found this quite inspiring, and so decided to set up special economic zones in Chi…”
Patrick Collison May 2, 2018 ▶ 7:43 #32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes
Aug 21, 2018 neutral
Insight
Cowen: Global demand for safe assets keeps US rates artificially low
“And I think those rates staying so low, Is a sign that there's all this wealth out there in the world, Russia, China, but not really that many safe places to put it. So they buy us government securities, which is perfectly understandable, but it lowers our rat…”
Tyler Cowen Aug 21, 2018 ▶ 48:09 #39 Tyler Cowen: Thinking About Thinking
Mar 5, 2019 negative
Assertion Supported
Marks: US Consumers, Not Chinese Exporters, Pay US Import Tariffs
“Chinese don't pay tariffs. Tariffs are paid by consumers of goods. We have collected billions in tariffs from US consumers of Chinese goods.”
Howard Marks Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 35:37 #53 Howard Marks: Luck, Risk and Avoiding Losers
Mar 5, 2019
Assertion Supported
Marks: US lost 24M jobs to productivity gains versus 3M to China
“The point is that we have probably lost twenty-four million jobs to increasing productivity over the last 40 years compared to three million that went to China. And it shows you the scope of the problem and the location of the problem. The problem is not China…”
Howard Marks Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 54:44 #53 Howard Marks: Luck, Risk and Avoiding Losers
Apr 2, 2019 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2040
Scott Page: China's economic growth will slow without massive innovation
“The same is true of China, right? So if you do a linear projection of China, You know, five years ago, you'd have said, oh my gosh, you know, by 2040, China's economy is going to be just enormous, but the reality is growth's going to fall off, because what the…”
Scott Page Apr 2, 2019 ▶ 1:09:55 #55 Scott Page: Becoming a Model Thinker
Mar 13, 2020 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Balaji: Many hardware companies will die from Chinese supply chain disruptions
“Hardware companies are just going to die, many of them, because they just can't get the parts from Chinese warehouses.”
Balaji Srinivasan Mar 13, 2020 ▶ 45:06 #78 Balaji Srinivasan: Exploring COVID-19
Mar 13, 2020 neutral
Prediction Partly held up
China will build a 'Great Biowall' for continuous pathogen surveillance
“There's a great wall of China, the great firewall, and I think we're going to see the great By the wall of China, okay, where, you know, they'll be sequencing and testing the heck out of everybody, scanning the country constantly to see, okay, is a virus risin…”
Balaji Srinivasan Mar 13, 2020 ▶ 30:27 #78 Balaji Srinivasan: Exploring COVID-19
Apr 28, 2020 negative
Assertion Supported
Ackman: Herbalife settled with SEC for $20M over China disclosures
“In the last six months, and you can Google it, Herbalife paid, settled with the SEC for twenty million dollars for misleadingly describing their China business and their public finance, because it actually, the compensation scheme is precisely the same as, and…”
Bill Ackman Apr 28, 2020 ▶ 1:29:13 #82 Bill Ackman: Getting Back Up
Oct 13, 2020 negative
Insight
Chamath: Outsourcing and stock buybacks are driven by executive compensation incentives
“Business school, as an example, has taught you that redundancy is waste, and waste can be converted into profit, and profit is converted into compensation. And I think that is what people have really drank the Kool-Aid on. And so, you know, when they ran out o…”
Chamath Palihapitiya Oct 13, 2020 ▶ 1:15:27 #94 Chamath Palihapitiya: Understanding Yourself
Jan 19, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
McGonigal: My 2008 and 2010 Games Forecast the 2019 Respiratory Pandemic
“Two of my biggest games, one in 2008, and one in 2010, forecast big respiratory pandemics that started in China for the year 2019 and 2020”
Jane McGonigal Jan 19, 2021 ▶ 44:26 #101 Jane McGonigal: The Psychology of Gaming
Mar 23, 2021 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ridley: China's declining economic freedom means it won't lead global prosperity
“China has been relatively free economically, but relative, but very unfree politically in the last few decades. I think that's now changing. I don't think it's very free in either respect. And so I don't see it leading the world in prosperity for an awful lot …”
Matt Ridley Mar 23, 2021 ▶ 50:37 #107 Matt Ridley: Infinite Innovation
Jun 29, 2021
Assertion Partly supported
Hertz: Studies show pop lyrics became increasingly individualistic since the 1980s
“So there were studies done with pop song lyrics, which show that in general, in the west, pop song lyrics from the 19 eighties to today have become increasingly individualistic with words like we, us, and I are supplanted by words like I, me, and my, and this …”
Noreena Hertz Jun 29, 2021 ▶ 13:27 #114 Noreena Hertz: The Crisis of Loneliness
Jul 27, 2021 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Immelt: Next-generation leaders must maintain manufacturing jobs where they sell
“If I sell in the US, I better have a certain amount of jobs in the US. If I sell in Germany, same thing. If I sell in China, same thing. And my generation didn't have to think that way, but the next generation is going to have to think that way.”
Jeff Immelt Jul 27, 2021 ▶ 37:59 #116 Jeff Immelt: Leadership In A Crisis
Jul 27, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Immelt: US and Canadian manufacturing costs now equal Mexico and China
“My hunch is you could go through product after product and making it in Canada or the U S is probably just about the same as making it in Mexico or China today.”
Jeff Immelt Jul 27, 2021 ▶ 37:33 #116 Jeff Immelt: Leadership In A Crisis
Nov 16, 2021 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Rushkoff: Gulf of Mexico shrimp get shipped to Asia just for deshelling
“We fish for shrimp in the Gulf of Mexico. We transport those shrimp all the way to China and Vietnam, where they get deshelled, and then put them on other boats and ship them all the way back to us.”
Douglas Rushkoff Nov 16, 2021 ▶ 1:00:06 #124 Douglas Rushkoff: The Perils of Modern Media
Apr 5, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Balaji Srinivasan: India will become a tech and media superpower
“This is why I think if China becomes, has become a tech and manufacturing superpower, I think India becomes a tech and media superpower.”
Balaji Srinivasan Apr 5, 2022 ▶ 2:39:59 Balaji Srinivasan: The Network State
Apr 5, 2022 negative
Insight
US attempt to institute internet censorship is too late compared to China
“The Chinese sort of bought censorship at the seed stage or series a stage and the U S establishment has tried to institute censorship at like the post IPO stage. Okay. Which is 1000 X or 10,000 X or a 100,000 X the cost. After three billion people have gotten,…”
Balaji Srinivasan Apr 5, 2022 ▶ 1:05:12 Balaji Srinivasan: The Network State
Apr 5, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Srinivasan: China's Three Red Lines policy intentionally engineered Evergrande's controlled demolition
“In China, actually, Xi Jinping has talked about how he did not want houses to be used for investment. And actually that's part of their policy there is to try to intentionally pop the bubble rather than having a bear or Lehman type thing. Evergrande was like a…”
Balaji Srinivasan Apr 5, 2022 ▶ 1:59:29 Balaji Srinivasan: The Network State
Apr 5, 2022 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Srinivasan: Geopolitics by 2040 may center on China vs. international Indians
“I think by 2040, there's a chance, I'm not saying a hundred percent, but I think that if the last century ended up at least the second half was USA versus USSR, right? I think this century may end up as being China versus Indians, not India. I think that's whe…”
Balaji Srinivasan Apr 5, 2022 ▶ 2:20:19 Balaji Srinivasan: The Network State
Jun 28, 2022 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kunal Shah: India's Per Capita Income Growth Will Never Match China's
“And therefore, a lot of Western markets love to come to India and say, oh, India is the next China. It's not, because our per capita income is never going to beat and grow like China, because before China started becoming affluent, 96% of Chinese urban women w…”
Kunal Shah Jun 28, 2022 ▶ 33:47 Kunal Shah: Core Human Motivations
Sep 20, 2022 positive
Insight
Hoffman: Only Silicon Valley and China Embody Rapid OODA Loop Execution
“When I kind of go through the entire world, there's basically two places that embody this fighter pilot terminology called an OODA loop, observe, orient, decide, act. It's how fast you make these decisions through this kind of, this framework, both as individu…”
Reid Hoffman Sep 20, 2022 ▶ 37:13 Reid Hoffman: Better Decisions, Fewer Mistakes
Dec 27, 2022 positive
Opinion
Hoffman: Silicon Valley and China are the only places mastering fast OODA loops
“When I kind of go through the entire world, there's basically two places that embody this fighter pilot terminology called an OODA loop, observe, orient, decide, act. It's how fast you make these decisions through this kind of the, this framework, both as indi…”
Reid Hoffman Dec 27, 2022 ▶ 53:21 Best of 2022: Conversations of the Year
Mar 21, 2023 positive
Disclosure
TerraPower secures deal to build an advanced nuclear plant in Wyoming
“Now, as it turns out that project didn't go forward, and we're currently trying to build our new plant in Wyoming, and we have a deal to do that, which is very exciting.”
Nathan Myhrvold Mar 21, 2023 ▶ 54:41 Nathan Myhrvold
May 16, 2023 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kelly: AI-based religions will inevitably emerge first in China and Russia
“It would not surprise me to see Some new religions based around AI emerging in the kind of vacuum of the waning of the established religions. And let me say one last thing. And I would expect it to see these first in China and maybe Russia because they have a …”
Kevin Kelly May 16, 2023 ▶ 1:08:17 Kevin Kelly: Excellent Advice for Living
May 16, 2023 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kelly: A rise of nationalism in China is almost inevitable
“Nationalism is something bigger than yourself to believe in, and so that's why there's going to be a rise in China of nationalism. That's sort of almost inevitable, because that's bigger than yourself, and you can believe in that.”
Kevin Kelly May 16, 2023 ▶ 1:09:45 Kevin Kelly: Excellent Advice for Living
Mar 4, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Wolfe: China graduates 50% of all global AI undergrads
“50% of all AI undergrads in the world today are being graduated by China.”
Josh Wolfe Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 1:46:58 Josh Wolfe: Human Advantage in the World of AI
Mar 4, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Wolfe: 38% of US AI researchers are from China
“In our own country, in the United States, 38% of researchers in AI are from China.”
Josh Wolfe Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 1:47:04 Josh Wolfe: Human Advantage in the World of AI
Mar 4, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Mar 2028
Wolfe: SK Hynix will bypass export controls easier than Micron
“I think Micron is a US company which is going to be more constrained by restrictions that are put on export control, and I think SK being a Korean company is going to be able to skirt those in the same way that NVIDIA has with, you know, distribution to China …”
Josh Wolfe Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 10:25 Josh Wolfe: Human Advantage in the World of AI
Apr 1, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Flatt: China will thrive independently as a consumer service economy
“I think China, it's a, it's an economy in itself today. It's 1.5 billion people. They're getting richer every day. They're turning into a consumer service society. There's not that much of manufacturing that's relevant to them. I think they will do extremely w…”
Bruce Flatt Apr 1, 2025 ▶ 31:21 Bruce Flatt on Value, Discipline, and Durability
Apr 13, 2025 negative
Opinion
Poilievre: Trump Tariffs on Canada Only Strengthen China
“Trump tariffs against Canada actually only strengthen China because they weaken both Canada and the US.”
Pierre Poilievre Apr 13, 2025 ▶ 46:41 Pierre Poilievre: What I Want to Build (and Break) To Fix Canada
Apr 13, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Poilievre: Canadian aluminum generates 2 tons of CO2 per ton versus 14 in China
“They produce one ton of aluminum with two tons of carbon. China, it's 14 tons of carbon for every ton of aluminum.”
Pierre Poilievre Apr 13, 2025 ▶ 1:18:42 Pierre Poilievre: What I Want to Build (and Break) To Fix Canada
Apr 29, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Tan: China will likely rely on a single, centrally controlled ASI
“That society probably, you know, unless there's other changes there, like that's, you can sort of count on a single, ah, artificial super intelligence, like sort of setting the, how everything works over there.”
Garry Tan Apr 29, 2025 ▶ 1:35:15 Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan: Turning Ambitious Misfits into Founders
Aug 5, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
China shipping volumes plunged 60% before surging upon U.S. tariff relief
“Volumes from China collapsed, 60% down when, on April ninth, the day the duties hit, stayed down for five weeks, and then as soon as he relaxed, as soon as they, the Trump administration relaxed the duties on China to 30% instead of one 45, it surged to 80% ab…”
Ryan Petersen Aug 5, 2025 ▶ 1:19:34 Ryan Petersen: Building Flexport
Aug 5, 2025
Assertion Supported
China-to-US ocean container shipping costs dropped to $600 in 2016
“You could ship a container from China to the U.S. For, our cost was like 600 dollars. Normal long run average about 2000. Today, I didn't check the price this morning, but it's probably four or 5000 right now. And the peak COVID was, you know, famously got to …”
Ryan Petersen Aug 5, 2025 ▶ 35:14 Ryan Petersen: Building Flexport
Aug 5, 2025
Disclosure
Flexport utilized bonded warehouses to delay taxes when U.S. tariffs peaked
“So when tariffs were at one 45 on China, we helped a lot of companies move into bonded warehouses because We all predicted that it would come down from there. So you're better off waiting and only enter the goods, only exit them out of the building, but enter …”
Ryan Petersen Aug 5, 2025 ▶ 1:10:45 Ryan Petersen: Building Flexport
Feb 3, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Ovitz: The US innovation system will outperform Chinese competition
“I am not worried about foreign competition. Yeah, China may have robots that are great, but we got people that are unbelievably smart, and our system just works really well.”
Michael Ovitz Feb 3, 2026 ▶ 44:47 Michael Ovitz: The Psychology of Power
Jun 9, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Gurley: China's open-source AI ecosystem can innovate faster than the US
“Because it's more intense, everyone's chosen to go open source, and that creates a system that, in my mind, is capable of innovating far faster Then the competitive system we have here.”
Bill Gurley Jun 9, 2026 ▶ 15:20 Mental Models That Change How You Think | Bill Gurley
Jun 9, 2026 negative
Opinion
Gurley rejects Washington and Silicon Valley's vilification of China
“Having spent a ton of time in China over the past 20 years, it's hard for me to adopt this mindset of vilification that's heavy amongst many in Washington and now many in Silicon Valley.”
Bill Gurley Jun 9, 2026 ▶ 24:21 Mental Models That Change How You Think | Bill Gurley
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