Aug 21, 2017 · 47m · how-i-built-this

Edible Arrangements: Tariq Farid

Tariq Farid · 27m spoken Guy Raz · 13m spoken Brooklyn Gould Bradbury · 1m spoken Charlie Ferriselli · 14s spoken
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This episode of NPR's How I Built This chronicles Tariq Farid's rise from a teenage immigrant florist in Connecticut to the founder of Edible Arrangements, a global fruit bouquet franchise. Host Guy Raz explores how Farid overcame early business catastrophes, persistent skepticism, and operational hurdles through customer-first service, technological self-reliance, and family guidance.

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Guy as informed peer 2.7 Guest teaching 2.3 Guest disagreement 0.3 Guy pushing back 1.0
05100:0015:0030:0045:000:03–2:39 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Prologue: Doubting the Fruit Bouquet Concept Guy Raz sets the narrative frame in an introductory monologue, explaining why investors initially doubted the premise of fruit bouquets. Tariq Farid opens the show by recounting how a skeptic advised him to stay at his day job.2:40–6:26 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Early Hardship and Mentorship at Ferriselli's Flower Shop Raz asks gentle chronological questions about Farid's childhood and early employment in Connecticut. Farid shares sentimental stories about learning customer service from his mentor, Charlie Ferriselli.6:26–10:39 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Acquiring the First Flower Shop and the Easter Freeze Farid narrates buying a distressed flower shop at age 17 and freezing his entire Easter inventory by accident. Raz listens as Farid explains how a local flower wholesaler bailed him out with credit and kindness.10:40–14:16 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Building Customer Loyalty and Achieving Profitability Farid explains how staying open later than competitors and taking on weddings generated early profitability. Raz prompts him on operational details such as family involvement and breakeven timelines.14:16–19:05 · Guy as informed peer 3/10 Expanding to a Second Location via Seller Financing Farid surprises Raz by detailing how he taught himself to install point-of-sale computer networks in late 1980s flower shops. Raz expresses genuine amazement that a teenager was building a million-dollar IT installation business.19:05–24:02 · Guy as informed peer 3/10 The Corporate Detour and Return to Small Business Raz and Farid discuss the transition from selling the tech company to launching Edible Arrangements. Farid describes testing the fruit bouquet concept on skeptical friends and an academic, relying instead on his mother's intuitive backing.24:06–27:23 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Mid-Episode Break and Teaser Following the mid-roll break, Raz questions Farid on the logistical challenge of guaranteeing fruit quality and sweetness across seasons. Farid outlines his early quality control method of simply discarding subpar fruit despite the financial loss.27:24–30:48 · Guy as informed peer 3/10 The Rapid Expansion of Franchise Operations Farid explains how organic customer demand drove the company into franchising before he even had legal documents drafted. Raz explores how quality standards were maintained as store count exploded to hundreds of locations.30:50–34:51 · Guy as informed peer 4/10 Reinvesting Capital and the Personal Costs of Scale Raz presses on the personal sacrifices behind the business, bringing up Farid's divorce and missed time with his daughters. Farid candidly agrees, reflecting on the painful trade-offs of rapid scale and avoiding outside equity.34:52–39:11 · Guy as informed peer 4/10 Managing Franchise Disputes and Learning Humility Raz brings up the multi-year franchisee lawsuit from 2010 over mandatory operational changes. Farid reflects on the painful lesson in humility, explaining that franchisors must view franchisees as entrepreneurial partners rather than subordinates.39:14–41:57 · Guy as informed peer 3/10 Global Scale, Mother's Wisdom, and Family Pride Raz marvels at the scale of 1,300 locations generating over $600 million from cut fruit bouquets. Farid shares his late mother's Urdu advice about not chasing money so that success chases you instead.42:02–46:26 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Honoring Salma Farid and Catching Up with Charlie Raz plays a cameo clip from Charlie Ferriselli reflecting warmly on his former mentee, followed by the 'How You Built That' segment featuring Brooklyn Gould Bradbury and Five 12 Apparel.0:03–2:39 · Guest teaching 1/10 Prologue: Doubting the Fruit Bouquet Concept Guy Raz sets the narrative frame in an introductory monologue, explaining why investors initially doubted the premise of fruit bouquets. Tariq Farid opens the show by recounting how a skeptic advised him to stay at his day job.2:40–6:26 · Guest teaching 1/10 Early Hardship and Mentorship at Ferriselli's Flower Shop Raz asks gentle chronological questions about Farid's childhood and early employment in Connecticut. Farid shares sentimental stories about learning customer service from his mentor, Charlie Ferriselli.6:26–10:39 · Guest teaching 2/10 Acquiring the First Flower Shop and the Easter Freeze Farid narrates buying a distressed flower shop at age 17 and freezing his entire Easter inventory by accident. Raz listens as Farid explains how a local flower wholesaler bailed him out with credit and kindness.10:40–14:16 · Guest teaching 2/10 Building Customer Loyalty and Achieving Profitability Farid explains how staying open later than competitors and taking on weddings generated early profitability. Raz prompts him on operational details such as family involvement and breakeven timelines.14:16–19:05 · Guest teaching 4/10 Expanding to a Second Location via Seller Financing Farid surprises Raz by detailing how he taught himself to install point-of-sale computer networks in late 1980s flower shops. Raz expresses genuine amazement that a teenager was building a million-dollar IT installation business.19:05–24:02 · Guest teaching 3/10 The Corporate Detour and Return to Small Business Raz and Farid discuss the transition from selling the tech company to launching Edible Arrangements. Farid describes testing the fruit bouquet concept on skeptical friends and an academic, relying instead on his mother's intuitive backing.24:06–27:23 · Guest teaching 2/10 Mid-Episode Break and Teaser Following the mid-roll break, Raz questions Farid on the logistical challenge of guaranteeing fruit quality and sweetness across seasons. Farid outlines his early quality control method of simply discarding subpar fruit despite the financial loss.27:24–30:48 · Guest teaching 3/10 The Rapid Expansion of Franchise Operations Farid explains how organic customer demand drove the company into franchising before he even had legal documents drafted. Raz explores how quality standards were maintained as store count exploded to hundreds of locations.30:50–34:51 · Guest teaching 3/10 Reinvesting Capital and the Personal Costs of Scale Raz presses on the personal sacrifices behind the business, bringing up Farid's divorce and missed time with his daughters. Farid candidly agrees, reflecting on the painful trade-offs of rapid scale and avoiding outside equity.34:52–39:11 · Guest teaching 3/10 Managing Franchise Disputes and Learning Humility Raz brings up the multi-year franchisee lawsuit from 2010 over mandatory operational changes. Farid reflects on the painful lesson in humility, explaining that franchisors must view franchisees as entrepreneurial partners rather than subordinates.39:14–41:57 · Guest teaching 2/10 Global Scale, Mother's Wisdom, and Family Pride Raz marvels at the scale of 1,300 locations generating over $600 million from cut fruit bouquets. Farid shares his late mother's Urdu advice about not chasing money so that success chases you instead.42:02–46:26 · Guest teaching 1/10 Honoring Salma Farid and Catching Up with Charlie Raz plays a cameo clip from Charlie Ferriselli reflecting warmly on his former mentee, followed by the 'How You Built That' segment featuring Brooklyn Gould Bradbury and Five 12 Apparel.0:03–2:39 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Prologue: Doubting the Fruit Bouquet Concept Guy Raz sets the narrative frame in an introductory monologue, explaining why investors initially doubted the premise of fruit bouquets. Tariq Farid opens the show by recounting how a skeptic advised him to stay at his day job.2:40–6:26 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Early Hardship and Mentorship at Ferriselli's Flower Shop Raz asks gentle chronological questions about Farid's childhood and early employment in Connecticut. Farid shares sentimental stories about learning customer service from his mentor, Charlie Ferriselli.6:26–10:39 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Acquiring the First Flower Shop and the Easter Freeze Farid narrates buying a distressed flower shop at age 17 and freezing his entire Easter inventory by accident. Raz listens as Farid explains how a local flower wholesaler bailed him out with credit and kindness.10:40–14:16 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Building Customer Loyalty and Achieving Profitability Farid explains how staying open later than competitors and taking on weddings generated early profitability. Raz prompts him on operational details such as family involvement and breakeven timelines.14:16–19:05 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Expanding to a Second Location via Seller Financing Farid surprises Raz by detailing how he taught himself to install point-of-sale computer networks in late 1980s flower shops. Raz expresses genuine amazement that a teenager was building a million-dollar IT installation business.19:05–24:02 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Corporate Detour and Return to Small Business Raz and Farid discuss the transition from selling the tech company to launching Edible Arrangements. Farid describes testing the fruit bouquet concept on skeptical friends and an academic, relying instead on his mother's intuitive backing.24:06–27:23 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Mid-Episode Break and Teaser Following the mid-roll break, Raz questions Farid on the logistical challenge of guaranteeing fruit quality and sweetness across seasons. Farid outlines his early quality control method of simply discarding subpar fruit despite the financial loss.27:24–30:48 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Rapid Expansion of Franchise Operations Farid explains how organic customer demand drove the company into franchising before he even had legal documents drafted. Raz explores how quality standards were maintained as store count exploded to hundreds of locations.30:50–34:51 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Reinvesting Capital and the Personal Costs of Scale Raz presses on the personal sacrifices behind the business, bringing up Farid's divorce and missed time with his daughters. Farid candidly agrees, reflecting on the painful trade-offs of rapid scale and avoiding outside equity.34:52–39:11 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Managing Franchise Disputes and Learning Humility Raz brings up the multi-year franchisee lawsuit from 2010 over mandatory operational changes. Farid reflects on the painful lesson in humility, explaining that franchisors must view franchisees as entrepreneurial partners rather than subordinates.39:14–41:57 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Global Scale, Mother's Wisdom, and Family Pride Raz marvels at the scale of 1,300 locations generating over $600 million from cut fruit bouquets. Farid shares his late mother's Urdu advice about not chasing money so that success chases you instead.42:02–46:26 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Honoring Salma Farid and Catching Up with Charlie Raz plays a cameo clip from Charlie Ferriselli reflecting warmly on his former mentee, followed by the 'How You Built That' segment featuring Brooklyn Gould Bradbury and Five 12 Apparel.0:03–2:39 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Prologue: Doubting the Fruit Bouquet Concept Guy Raz sets the narrative frame in an introductory monologue, explaining why investors initially doubted the premise of fruit bouquets. Tariq Farid opens the show by recounting how a skeptic advised him to stay at his day job.2:40–6:26 · Guy pushing back 1/10 Early Hardship and Mentorship at Ferriselli's Flower Shop Raz asks gentle chronological questions about Farid's childhood and early employment in Connecticut. Farid shares sentimental stories about learning customer service from his mentor, Charlie Ferriselli.6:26–10:39 · Guy pushing back 1/10 Acquiring the First Flower Shop and the Easter Freeze Farid narrates buying a distressed flower shop at age 17 and freezing his entire Easter inventory by accident. Raz listens as Farid explains how a local flower wholesaler bailed him out with credit and kindness.10:40–14:16 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Building Customer Loyalty and Achieving Profitability Farid explains how staying open later than competitors and taking on weddings generated early profitability. Raz prompts him on operational details such as family involvement and breakeven timelines.14:16–19:05 · Guy pushing back 1/10 Expanding to a Second Location via Seller Financing Farid surprises Raz by detailing how he taught himself to install point-of-sale computer networks in late 1980s flower shops. Raz expresses genuine amazement that a teenager was building a million-dollar IT installation business.19:05–24:02 · Guy pushing back 1/10 The Corporate Detour and Return to Small Business Raz and Farid discuss the transition from selling the tech company to launching Edible Arrangements. Farid describes testing the fruit bouquet concept on skeptical friends and an academic, relying instead on his mother's intuitive backing.24:06–27:23 · Guy pushing back 2/10 Mid-Episode Break and Teaser Following the mid-roll break, Raz questions Farid on the logistical challenge of guaranteeing fruit quality and sweetness across seasons. Farid outlines his early quality control method of simply discarding subpar fruit despite the financial loss.27:24–30:48 · Guy pushing back 1/10 The Rapid Expansion of Franchise Operations Farid explains how organic customer demand drove the company into franchising before he even had legal documents drafted. Raz explores how quality standards were maintained as store count exploded to hundreds of locations.30:50–34:51 · Guy pushing back 2/10 Reinvesting Capital and the Personal Costs of Scale Raz presses on the personal sacrifices behind the business, bringing up Farid's divorce and missed time with his daughters. Farid candidly agrees, reflecting on the painful trade-offs of rapid scale and avoiding outside equity.34:52–39:11 · Guy pushing back 2/10 Managing Franchise Disputes and Learning Humility Raz brings up the multi-year franchisee lawsuit from 2010 over mandatory operational changes. Farid reflects on the painful lesson in humility, explaining that franchisors must view franchisees as entrepreneurial partners rather than subordinates.39:14–41:57 · Guy pushing back 1/10 Global Scale, Mother's Wisdom, and Family Pride Raz marvels at the scale of 1,300 locations generating over $600 million from cut fruit bouquets. Farid shares his late mother's Urdu advice about not chasing money so that success chases you instead.42:02–46:26 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Honoring Salma Farid and Catching Up with Charlie Raz plays a cameo clip from Charlie Ferriselli reflecting warmly on his former mentee, followed by the 'How You Built That' segment featuring Brooklyn Gould Bradbury and Five 12 Apparel.

speaking balance: gold is Guy, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Guy 74.5% · guest 25.5%0:00 · Guy 74.5% · guest 25.5%3:00 · Guy 12% · guest 88%3:00 · Guy 12% · guest 88%6:00 · Guy 20.5% · guest 79.5%6:00 · Guy 20.5% · guest 79.5%9:00 · Guy 7.5% · guest 92.5%9:00 · Guy 7.5% · guest 92.5%12:00 · Guy 16.6% · guest 83.4%12:00 · Guy 16.6% · guest 83.4%15:00 · Guy 33.5% · guest 66.5%15:00 · Guy 33.5% · guest 66.5%18:00 · Guy 29.1% · guest 70.9%18:00 · Guy 29.1% · guest 70.9%21:00 · Guy 21.1% · guest 78.9%21:00 · Guy 21.1% · guest 78.9%24:00 · Guy 45.2% · guest 54.8%24:00 · Guy 45.2% · guest 54.8%27:00 · Guy 31.6% · guest 68.4%27:00 · Guy 31.6% · guest 68.4%30:00 · Guy 31.1% · guest 68.9%30:00 · Guy 31.1% · guest 68.9%33:00 · Guy 22.9% · guest 77.1%33:00 · Guy 22.9% · guest 77.1%36:00 · Guy 15.8% · guest 84.2%36:00 · Guy 15.8% · guest 84.2%39:00 · Guy 19.6% · guest 80.4%39:00 · Guy 19.6% · guest 80.4%42:00 · Guy 60.8% · guest 39.2%42:00 · Guy 60.8% · guest 39.2%45:00 · Guy 65.5% · guest 34.5%45:00 · Guy 65.5% · guest 34.5%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 23:20 Dismissing academic skepticism and focus groups

Farid playfully rejects the advice of a university professor who urged him to stick to flower shops, noting his only necessary focus group was his mother's approval.

Hardest push from Guy ▶ 33:00 Pressing on personal costs and divorce

Raz directly challenges the romanticized view of rapid business growth by bringing up Farid's divorce and missed time with his young children.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 15:35 Building a teenage POS networking empire

Farid educates Raz on how he leveraged emerging PC floppy disk and Novell network technology in 1988 to build an automated POS service business across flower shops.

Guy holds their own ▶ 35:55 Drilling into the 2010 franchisee revolt

Raz demonstrates strong research by raising the contentious three-year franchisee lawsuit over store hours and operational mandates.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicGuy as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementGuy pushing backWhy
Prologue: Doubting the Fruit Bouquet Concept 2110 Guy Raz sets the narrative frame in an introductory monologue, explaining why investors initially doubted the premise of fruit bouquets. Tariq Farid opens the show by recounting how a skeptic advised him to stay at his day job.
Early Hardship and Mentorship at Ferriselli's Flower Shop 2101 Raz asks gentle chronological questions about Farid's childhood and early employment in Connecticut. Farid shares sentimental stories about learning customer service from his mentor, Charlie Ferriselli.
Acquiring the First Flower Shop and the Easter Freeze 2201 Farid narrates buying a distressed flower shop at age 17 and freezing his entire Easter inventory by accident. Raz listens as Farid explains how a local flower wholesaler bailed him out with credit and kindness.
Building Customer Loyalty and Achieving Profitability 2200 Farid explains how staying open later than competitors and taking on weddings generated early profitability. Raz prompts him on operational details such as family involvement and breakeven timelines.
Expanding to a Second Location via Seller Financing 3401 Farid surprises Raz by detailing how he taught himself to install point-of-sale computer networks in late 1980s flower shops. Raz expresses genuine amazement that a teenager was building a million-dollar IT installation business.
The Corporate Detour and Return to Small Business 3311 Raz and Farid discuss the transition from selling the tech company to launching Edible Arrangements. Farid describes testing the fruit bouquet concept on skeptical friends and an academic, relying instead on his mother's intuitive backing.
Mid-Episode Break and Teaser 2202 Following the mid-roll break, Raz questions Farid on the logistical challenge of guaranteeing fruit quality and sweetness across seasons. Farid outlines his early quality control method of simply discarding subpar fruit despite the financial loss.
The Rapid Expansion of Franchise Operations 3301 Farid explains how organic customer demand drove the company into franchising before he even had legal documents drafted. Raz explores how quality standards were maintained as store count exploded to hundreds of locations.
Reinvesting Capital and the Personal Costs of Scale 4302 Raz presses on the personal sacrifices behind the business, bringing up Farid's divorce and missed time with his daughters. Farid candidly agrees, reflecting on the painful trade-offs of rapid scale and avoiding outside equity.
Managing Franchise Disputes and Learning Humility 4312 Raz brings up the multi-year franchisee lawsuit from 2010 over mandatory operational changes. Farid reflects on the painful lesson in humility, explaining that franchisors must view franchisees as entrepreneurial partners rather than subordinates.
Global Scale, Mother's Wisdom, and Family Pride 3201 Raz marvels at the scale of 1,300 locations generating over $600 million from cut fruit bouquets. Farid shares his late mother's Urdu advice about not chasing money so that success chases you instead.
Honoring Salma Farid and Catching Up with Charlie 2100 Raz plays a cameo clip from Charlie Ferriselli reflecting warmly on his former mentee, followed by the 'How You Built That' segment featuring Brooklyn Gould Bradbury and Five 12 Apparel.

Statements from this episode (11)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Farid's father borrowed $6,000 from his employers to buy a flower shop
“My father borrowed 6000 dollars from Denise and Bill Holtberg, who were his boss, and next thing you know, we owned the shop, and it was just mostly the equipment is what we bought, but we ended up convincing the landlord to sign us a lease.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 7:21
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Farid accidentally destroyed his entire first flower inventory by freezing the cooler
“Put the flowers in, made all the arrangements, got ready for Easter, went home, came back the next day, Everything in the cooler is frozen because I had turned it on freeze temperature, and that was the only money I had.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 9:37
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Farid: Flower shop IT business generated over $1M in annual sales
“Oh, there was a year that I did over a million dollars in sales.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 18:59
Assertion Not checkable as stated
The majority of Farid's friends thought Edible Arrangements would fail
“Towards end of 97 and beginning of 98. I started to send it out to friends and some thought it would be great, but majority of them thought it wouldn't work.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 22:37
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Farid never issued a refund under Edible Arrangements' original satisfaction guarantee
“I never had to give anybody the money back because people loved it.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 25:57
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Edible Arrangements expanded its first 15 franchise locations entirely through word-of-mouth
“I never, you know, we did it one at a time, so it was all word of mouth, so up to our first 10 or 15 shops, it was all word of mouth, because I was more concerned with doing it right”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 29:02
Assertion Contradicted
Edible Arrangements sold 300 new franchise stores annually by 2005
“When I hired that team and all these things that we had automated and put into systems, ah, we were, by 2004, 2005, we were selling 300 stores a year.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 30:39
Disclosure
Edible Arrangements turned down multiple private equity offers to avoid equity dilution
“So we didn't bring on any investors, even though by 2006, 2007, many people are interested in buying into the brand or investing in the brand. And I had many offers of private equities wanting to get involved. I just didn't see any benefit of it at that time s…”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 32:18
Insight
Farid: Franchisees will tolerate only one or two failed corporate initiatives
“Anybody that's thinking about getting in a franchise should realize that it is a relationship that you are actually now getting into a partnership with another entrepreneur. You're gonna have to spend a lot of time listening and making sure and inspiring and h…”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 37:22
Assertion Supported
Farid: Edible Arrangements has nearly 1,300 global stores
“About 1300, close to 1300.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 39:21
Assertion Supported
Edible Arrangements stores generate approximately $600 million in combined annual revenue
“About six hundred million.”
Tariq Farid Aug 21, 2017 ▶ 39:36
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