IBM

includes IBM Personal Computer, IBM PC, IBM Personal System/2, IBM Portable, IBM Series/1, IBM Selectric, IBM Watson

28 statements across 12 episodes · 4 bullish · 6 bearish · 11 people on the record · first statement Apr 3, 2017 by Steve Case · said 252 times in 31 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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brought up most by Guy Raz (128), Rod Canion (41), Michael Dell (23), Leah Solivan (11), Jim McKelvey (7), Sandy Lerner (6), William Wang (5), Craig Newmark (5)

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2025 15 mentions in 2 episodes 8 per episode
2024 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2023 1 mention in 1 episode
2022 30 mentions in 7 episodes 4 per episode
2021 11 mentions in 4 episodes 3 per episode
2020 21 mentions in 2 episodes 11 per episode
2019 64 mentions in 2 episodes 32 per episode
2018 20 mentions in 3 episodes 7 per episode
2017 76 mentions in 7 episodes 11 per episode

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Everything said about IBM, oldest first

Apr 3, 2017 neutral
Assertion Supported
Case: IBM, Sears, and CBS Committed $1B to Prodigy
“There was one in particular called Prodigy that IBM and Sears and for a while, CBS, committed about a billion dollars to launch Prodigy.”
Steve Case Apr 3, 2017 ▶ 5:59 AOL: Steve Case
Apr 3, 2017
Assertion Supported
Steve Case: AOL built early private-label online services for Commodore, IBM, Apple
“We created something called Q-Link for Commodore. We created something called PC-Link for RadioShack. We created something called Promenade for IBM. We created something called Apple-Link for Apple.”
Steve Case Apr 3, 2017 ▶ 8:32 AOL: Steve Case
May 22, 2017 neutral
Assertion Supported
Compaq sold 53,000 computers in 1983 compared to IBM's 750,000
“Compaq sold about 53,000 computers. And that same year, IBM, they sold 750,000 computers.”
Guy Raz May 22, 2017 ▶ 16:33 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
May 22, 2017 negative
Assertion Contradicted
IBM's 1987 PS/2 computer launched without running any existing PC software
“Because this thing not only didn't run all the software, it didn't run any of the software.”
Rod Canion May 22, 2017 ▶ 22:05 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
May 22, 2017 negative
Assertion Supported
Compaq's orders froze when IBM previewed its own portable computer
“They, you know, in February of 1984, IBM introduces their own portable into the market. Now, our order stopped because before it actually was introduced, they were showing it to dealers and customers, and they just stopped ordering ours.”
Rod Canion May 22, 2017 ▶ 15:20 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
May 22, 2017
Assertion Not checkable as stated
IBM initially ignored Compaq because IBM lacked a portable computer entirely
“No, they had no idea, and nor did they care. I mean, even after we began to sort of get some positive results and getting into stores, remember we were portable. They didn't have a portable. So, initially it was very easy for them to ignore us because we were …”
Rod Canion May 22, 2017 ▶ 13:40 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
May 22, 2017
Assertion Supported
Compaq reached $1.2 billion in 1987 with a faster, cheaper desktop
“The thing that took us from six hundred million in 86 to 1.2 billion in sales in 87, we came out with our own desktop, which was, ah, essentially three times faster than IBM's desktop for about the same price, and began to establish ourselves as not only the p…”
Rod Canion May 22, 2017 ▶ 20:54 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
May 22, 2017 negative
What-if
Canion admits IBM could have easily put Compaq out of business
“IBM maybe underestimated us. They didn't really study what had made our product successful. They could have easily put us out of business if they had come out with a real comparable product.”
Rod Canion May 22, 2017 ▶ 20:24 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
May 22, 2017
Disclosure
Compaq stockpiled inventory instead of doing layoffs when IBM attacked
“We're going to keep building these things. We're going to store them and wait for the orders to come. If the orders never come, yeah, we're in deep trouble, but you know what? We're in deep trouble anyway if the orders don't come.”
Rod Canion May 22, 2017 ▶ 17:46 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion
Dec 11, 2017
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tom's of Maine launched with a $5,000 loan backed by IBM stock
“I asked a friend to put up 5000 dollars. He and his wife were involved in the creation of this new alternative school in Kennebunk called The School Around Us. We became good friends, and I told him of my idea, and, ah, he had some IBM stock and took it to the…”
Tom Chappell Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 8:07 Tom's Of Maine: Tom Chappell
Jan 29, 2018 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dell: IBM's dominance in IT around 1981 was historically unprecedented
“You know, this company IBM had a leadership of the part of the economy referred to as information technology, unlike any other company at any other time in history. They were by far the dominant company.”
Michael Dell Jan 29, 2018 ▶ 10:01 Dell Computers: Michael Dell
Jan 29, 2018 neutral
Assertion Supported
Michael Dell Realized the $3,000 IBM PC Contained Only $600 in Parts
“And so when you took apart this IBM PC, you That was selling for about 3000 dollars. As far as I could tell, it was about 600 dollars worth of parts.”
Michael Dell Jan 29, 2018 ▶ 10:26 Dell Computers: Michael Dell
Jan 29, 2018
Assertion Partly supported
Dell Launched a Computer Twice as Fast as IBM's for Half Price
“So, you know, we introduced a 12 megahertz two 86 base computer and we sold it for 1995 dollars. So our computer was twice as fast and was half the price.”
Michael Dell Jan 29, 2018 ▶ 23:32 Dell Computers: Michael Dell
Mar 25, 2019 negative
What-if
Canion: IBM could have easily put early Compaq out of business
“They could have easily put us out of business if they had come out with a real comparable product.”
Rod Canion Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 20:52 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion (2019)
Mar 25, 2019 bullish
Assertion Supported
Canion: Compaq doubled sales to $1.2B with desktop 3x faster than IBM
“The thing that took us from six hundred million in 86 to 1.2 billion in sales in 87, we came out with our own desktop, which was, ah, essentially three times faster than IBM's desktop for about the same price and began to establish ourselves as not only the po…”
Rod Canion Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 21:07 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion (2019)
Mar 25, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Raz: Compaq sold 53,000 computers in 1983 compared to IBM's 750,000
“Compaq sold about 53,000 computers. And that same year, IBM, they sold 750,000 computers.”
Guy Raz Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 16:56 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion (2019)
Mar 25, 2019 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Canion: IBM's 1984 portable launch halted Compaq's customer orders
“They, you know, in February of 1984, IBM introduces their own portable into the market. Now, our order stopped because before it actually was introduced, they were showing it to dealers and customers, and they just stopped ordering ours.”
Rod Canion Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 15:43 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion (2019)
Mar 25, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Canion: The 1983 Compaq Portable weighed 28 pounds
“28 pounds.”
Rod Canion Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 10:39 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion (2019)
Mar 25, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Canion: Compaq legally reverse-engineered IBM's ROM without infringing patents
“You know, we had reverse engineered the ROM following advice from top notch intellectual property lawyers. So we were very careful around that. Their product was not protected by patents in any other way.”
Rod Canion Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 13:13 Compaq Computers: Rod Canion (2019)
May 13, 2019 neutral
Insight
IBM ignored peripheral cables due to production limits and printer fragmentation
“One was IBM had their hands full just making enough PCs, and it feels like it was probably years. There were just not enough of them getting built. And they had no idea what printer any given small business or consumer was going to choose, and most of those pr…”
Chet Pipkin May 13, 2019 ▶ 21:56 Belkin International: Chet Pipkin
Jan 6, 2020 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Dell introduced a PC twice as fast as IBM's for half price
“IBM at the time had a six megahertz, two 86 computer that they sold for 3995 dollars. So, you know, we introduced a 12 megahertz two 86 base computer and we sold it for 1995 dollars. So our computer was twice as fast and was half the price.”
Michael Dell Jan 6, 2020 ▶ 23:26 Dell Computers: Michael Dell (2018)
Jan 6, 2020 neutral
Assertion Supported
Michael Dell realized the $3,000 IBM PC contained just $600 in parts
“When you took apart this IBM PC that was selling for about 3000 dollars, as far as I could tell, it was about 600 dollars worth of parts.”
Michael Dell Jan 6, 2020 ▶ 10:41 Dell Computers: Michael Dell (2018)
Sep 14, 2020 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Awotona: Small software startups grew monthly what IBM grew annually
“So at the time, you know, IBM was probably growing double digits every single year. And some of the businesses that I was looking at where, you know, probably going, growing double digits every month.”
Tope Awotona Sep 14, 2020 ▶ 19:43 Calendly: Tope Awotona
Apr 26, 2021
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jeff Martin: Parents were among the few Black employees at IBM sales
“They were at the time, you know, our dad was one of the only black men in, in the group and our mom was one of the only women.”
Jeff Martin Apr 26, 2021 ▶ 6:06 Pipcorn: Jennifer and Jeff Martin
Jul 11, 2022
Disclosure
Leah Solivan disengages from problems others can solve just as well
“I only like to work on problems that I feel like I can uniquely solve. And if I feel like there's someone else who can also do it and do it just as well, like, I become very disengaged and very bored and uninterested in working on it”
Leah Solivan Jul 11, 2022 ▶ 9:24 TaskRabbit: Leah Solivan
Jul 11, 2022
Disclosure
Solivan: Cashed out $27,000 IBM pension to fund RunMyErrand
“So I had 27,000 dollars in my IBM pension program that, you know, we could withdraw with a penalty because it was your retirement. But I was like, whatever, let's just withdraw this money. And so I gave myself like six months to make something happen.”
Leah Solivan Jul 11, 2022 ▶ 28:33 TaskRabbit: Leah Solivan
Dec 19, 2022 positive
Insight
Category creators need knockoffs to prove their product's superiority
“The way that I soothe myself about knockoffs is that I remember this fact that, you know, Coke needed Pepsi. Xerox needed IBM. Beauty Blender needs knockoffs in order to prove why we are the category creator and the best.”
Rea Ann Silva Dec 19, 2022 ▶ 56:29 Beautyblender: Rea Ann Silva
Sep 29, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Newmark says not getting more involved with IBM PCs was a mistake
“My big mistake was not getting more and more involved with the PC back then, but I got a good education.”
Craig Newmark Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 13:37 Craigslist: Craig Newmark — The Forrest Gump of the Internet
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