electric grid

also referred to as: the electric grid

10 statements across 8 episodes · 5 bullish · 1 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Jan 31, 2022 by Mary Powell · across every show →

Everything said about electric grid, oldest first

Jan 31, 2022 bullish
Opinion
Powell: Orchestrating distributed resources flattens peak grid demand better than legacy infrastructure
“What with distributed Technologies utilized well in a way where you're like this, the conductor of the symphony orchestra of devices, right? You can create the kind of resilience that you could only really dream of and reliability of from a, like, grid perspec…”
Mary Powell Jan 31, 2022 ▶ 32:55 The future of the home solar market
Mar 11, 2022
Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Mar 2023
Atkinson: Distribution utilities operate with customer-level grid data delayed by hours or days
“And so it's really normal for distribution utilities today to have a view of their grid that's at least two hours old and often You know, more than a day old at least as regards to what's happening at the individual customer level.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 45:15 What the grid can learn from the internet
Jul 1, 2022 negative
Assertion Supported
Ackerman: Current battery tech is too costly and resource-constrained for entire grid
“But with our current battery technology, it would just be way too expensive To back up the entire electric grid. Plus, it would require more materials like lithium and cobalt than we have sitting around right now.”
Daniel Ackerman Jul 1, 2022 ▶ 5:49 How to Save a Planet: Spark Tank! How Do We Solve the Energy Storage Problem?
Aug 11, 2022 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bowe: Vehicle-to-grid adoption will only happen at higher EV penetration rates
“And then when we ultimately get to higher penetrations, that's where I would think we would start really seeing the V to G from a grid perspective, which I see as different from a vehicle to home perspective.”
Cassie Bowe Aug 11, 2022 ▶ 36:54 Will charging infrastructure be a bottleneck for electric vehicles?
Dec 14, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Jaramillo: LLM compute is driving electricity demand "bonkers"
“And that's not even really digesting the impacts for whatever they may be on, on the you know, large language model compute side of things, which is driving Demand bonkers right now.”
Mateo Jaramillo Dec 14, 2023 ▶ 48:10 What do you do with a 100-hour battery?
Dec 14, 2023
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jaramillo: Electric grid will need to double in size by 2045-2050
“It's trending that we would double this, we would need a grid, which is twice the size that it is today, by about 20, 45, twenty-fifty, roughly, given the growth rates.”
Mateo Jaramillo Dec 14, 2023 ▶ 47:52 What do you do with a 100-hour battery?
Dec 14, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Jaramillo: Displacing lithium-ion for intraday storage up to 12 hours is unlikely
“Displacing lithium ion is going to be really hard. I mean, the grid markets are sort of the tail on the dog of the automotive markets right now driving the production of lithium ion at scale. And so, so the industry that we're in, the electric industry gets to…”
Mateo Jaramillo Dec 14, 2023 ▶ 11:40 What do you do with a 100-hour battery?
Dec 5, 2024 positive
Insight
Janous: Continuous data center loads benefit grids by improving infrastructure cost recovery.
“Having more data centers on the grid is good because they use power 8007 60 hours a year. So there's more cost recovery for more infrastructure in more hours if you have more data centers.”
Brian Janous Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 36:20 Explaining the 'Watt-Bit Spread'
Jan 9, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lafarge: Data centers and manufacturers will pay for grid infrastructure upgrades
“Yes, I think that high load customers like manufacturing and data center operators can and will be a really big part of this moment in grid history. They will pay in Much of the incremental cost because of how they value time to power and total availability of…”
Pierre Lafarge Jan 9, 2025 ▶ 25:03 Making DERs work for load growth
May 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brown: Grid stress now extends far beyond traditional summer peak hours
“Those were really targeted towards, you know, peak hours of the year, right? You know, maybe 40 to 60 hours a year where we were really just dealing with a really, you know, a heat wave. Now, obviously, we're seeing one, you know, more variable weather through…”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 5:30 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
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