Astrid Atkinson

CEO & Co-Founder, Camus Energy · 1 appearance on the record.

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14statements → 14claims → 8claims resolved → 75%fully supported → 3.79/5average certainty → 1.86/5average debate potential →

6 supported 1 partly supported 1 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 5 not checkable as stated how the 14 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

2 predictions · 12 assertions · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 14 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 8 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 5 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Astrid argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Atkinson: High solar saturation in Hawaii and Australia causes utility pushback and installation limits
“One of the things that we've seen go into place in places like Hawaii and Australia, where this is also an issue, is that you'll start to see limitations on how much solar can go in, whether that's limiting new installs or limiting the size of the install. You…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 14:15 What the grid can learn from the internet

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Atkinson: Distribution utilities lack systems to handle FERC 2222 energy resources
“It actually mandates that those aggregations are allowed to cross multiple connection points between the transmission system and local grids. And so that actually puts quite a bit of pressure onto distribution utilities to figure out mechanisms that would allo…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 41:10 What the grid can learn from the internet

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

none yet certainty 1
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100% certainty 3
79% certainty 4
none yet certainty 5

weighted support: a fully supported claim counts one, a partly supported claim counts half. Each filled bar is clickable and opens exactly those claims; "none yet" means nothing said at that certainty level has resolved yet

Everything Astrid Atkinson said on Catalyst that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Atkinson: Local resources will provide 20% to 30% of total electricity
“And so I think, you know, if you think about just pure percentages, my guess is that probably 20 or 30% is probably about right for generation from local resources.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 23:46 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Mar 2023
Atkinson: Distribution utilities operate with customer-level grid data delayed by hours or days
“And so it's really normal for distribution utilities today to have a view of their grid that's at least two hours old and often You know, more than a day old at least as regards to what's happening at the individual customer level.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 45:15 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Atkinson: California power outages created massive waiting lists for home batteries
“There's a massive waiting list for battery installations, because folks in California have seen a lot of scheduled and natural disaster-fueled power outages, and it's not uncommon now especially in more, like, semi-rural places for people to see planned outage…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 10:00 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Atkinson: Few smart thermostat owners participate in utility grid-pay programs
“You know, many people have Nest thermostats. Very few participate in programs where they're actually getting paid to do anything on the grid.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 12:33 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Supported
Atkinson: High solar saturation in Hawaii and Australia causes utility pushback and installation limits
“One of the things that we've seen go into place in places like Hawaii and Australia, where this is also an issue, is that you'll start to see limitations on how much solar can go in, whether that's limiting new installs or limiting the size of the install. You…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 14:15 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Supported
Atkinson: Most utilities lack direct metering data on rooftop solar
“Very few utilities have great data on what's happening with the solar generation within their territory, for example. Most utilities don't directly meter that, so they can't really tell exactly what's happening with rooftop solar.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 16:28 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Atkinson: Most utilities still run 1990s-era on-premise server software
“Most utilities are still working with software and data management systems that are kind of old school. They're still deploying software that goes on a really big server in the server room that's sort of on site with the utility. And that was state of the art …”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 18:27 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Supported
Atkinson: Only six US utilities target full decarbonization by 2030
“It's really only six utilities in the country that have set goals that are that short term for full scale decarbonization.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 28:16 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Atkinson: Smart device vendors continuously track every connected thermostat, charger, and battery
“They all have computer systems that talk to all of those devices all the time. They all know exactly what every thermostat and hot water heater and EV charger and battery is doing every moment of every day.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 37:12 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Contradicted
Atkinson: Distribution utilities lack systems to handle FERC 2222 energy resources
“It actually mandates that those aggregations are allowed to cross multiple connection points between the transmission system and local grids. And so that actually puts quite a bit of pressure onto distribution utilities to figure out mechanisms that would allo…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 41:10 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Supported
Atkinson: Existing tech can identify individual homes from meter data alone
“There's already pretty good technology around being able to identify individual houses by looking at their meter data.”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 50:36 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Supported
Atkinson: Only 150 of 3,000 US utilities are investor-owned
“Within the U.S., there's about 3000 utilities overall, and of those, about a 150 are the investor-owned utilities that most people are familiar with, like PG&E, or ComEd, or ConEd, or whoever. The remaining 2850 or so are Primarily publicly owned utilities, an…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 26:00 What the grid can learn from the internet
Prediction Held up
Atkinson: Kit Carson Co-op will achieve 100% daytime solar in 2022
“Kit Carson Electric Cooperative that serves the area around Taos in New Mexico. Set a goal to get to a hundred percent of their daytime energy usage generated from local solar by 2022. And they are, they're making that goal. They're going to be there within a …”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 28:32 What the grid can learn from the internet
Assertion Partly supported
Atkinson: Traditional utility demand response relied on manual phone calls to large customers
“Most utilities have had some form of demand response program in place for, you know, 10, 2030 years, but typically up until now they were really only participated in by very, very large customers because the mechanism actually was calling people on the phone t…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 33:37 What the grid can learn from the internet

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
What the grid can learn from the internet Mar 11, 2022 38m
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