equities

51 statements across 38 episodes · 17 bullish · 13 bearish · 35 people on the record · first statement Dec 11, 2017 by Chris Acito · across every show →

Everything said about equities, oldest first

Dec 11, 2017 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Acito: Institutional investment committees are dominated by equity specialists
“Because if you go to your typical investment committee, there are 10 guys and gals who know equities. They're private equity people. They're hedge fund managers. They're long only managers. You rarely get to the committee where of the 10 people, six are credit…”
Chris Acito Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 44:39 Chris Acito – Credit Where Credit is Due (Capital Allocators, EP.33)
Dec 11, 2017 bullish
Insight
Acito: CLO equity has tighter 5-year return dispersion than public equities
“If I get CLO equity right, and my manager's a good job with the credit, I can't predict the path, but over a five-year return, here's how much I feel comfortable with it, and equities, the dispersion of potential outcomes is much broader than that. Maybe there…”
Chris Acito Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 25:58 Chris Acito – Credit Where Credit is Due (Capital Allocators, EP.33)
Jan 22, 2018 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2028
Bill Spitz Predicts 60/40 Portfolios Will Yield Mid-Single-Digit Returns Post-2018
“And where we end up is sort of a ten-year expected return on equities of Five-ish, let's call it five and some change, a little more for international stocks. Bonds are sort of three-ish. So I think looking ahead, the simple sixty-forty portfolio is going to g…”
Bill Spitz Jan 22, 2018 ▶ 20:03 Bill Spitz – Seasoned Commodore (Capital Allocators, EP.37)
Mar 19, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
ICMA saw $5B shift from equities to stable value post-2008
“Between oh eight and probably 20 11, we saw that About five billion dollars shift from equities into stable value, which doubled the size of our stable value fund.”
Wayne Wicker Mar 19, 2018 ▶ 40:46 Wayne Wicker - Managing for Millions who Matter (Capital Allocators, EP.44)
Mar 19, 2018
Disclosure
Dayton Hudson pension hedged 50% of its portfolio before 1987 crash
“So we took a 100% hedged exposure against equities and in the core of the portfolio, so about 50% of the pension fund.”
Wayne Wicker Mar 19, 2018 ▶ 14:00 Wayne Wicker - Managing for Millions who Matter (Capital Allocators, EP.44)
Mar 19, 2018 bullish
Assertion Supported
Equities yielded positive annual returns in 74% of years since 1926
“Strategas, and they showed annual returns since 1926. It showed that 74% of the time equities are positive. 59% of the time equities provide investors with greater than a 11 to 40% rate of return.”
Wayne Wicker Mar 19, 2018 ▶ 37:54 Wayne Wicker - Managing for Millions who Matter (Capital Allocators, EP.44)
Apr 9, 2018 bullish
Assertion Supported
No Broadway League pension plans exited equities during 2008 financial crisis
“And the 2008, 2009 financial crisis taught us that we should not act based on alarming data, alarming information, and none of the plans I sit on exited equities at any point in time. We just sat there and Bore it out, and we were rewarded in the end because w…”
Chris Brockmeyer Apr 9, 2018 ▶ 37:38 Chris Brockmeyer – On Broadway (Capital Allocators, EP.47)
May 21, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
QIC Outsourced Equities After Failing to Differentiate Internal Performance
“We realized that we could do alternatives well and differentiate performance, but conversely in equities we didn't, and so, so we outsource equities.”
Ross Israel May 21, 2018 ▶ 9:59 Ross Israel - Stable, Predictable Cash Flows (EP.53)
Sep 24, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
Future Fund's 20 Active Equity Mandates Canceled Out to Beta
“When we aggregated up All of the maybe 20 or so mandates we had across that portfolio, by and large, they canceled each other out at the whole portfolio level, and I would have expected we would end up with something like beta less fees. Now, actually, as I sa…”
Raphael Arndt Sep 24, 2018 ▶ 33:04 Raphael Arndt – Australia's Sovereign Wealth Fund CIO (Capital Allocators, Episode 70)
Nov 26, 2018 bullish
Assertion Supported
Baumgartner: 2014–2018 equity returns doubled consensus forecasts while volatility halved
“Back in 2013, 20 14, you've got bears projecting low returns... You've got folks like Goldman and JP Morgan, and the folks who publish capital market expectations, and you see, eh, equities, seven percent annualized return, 15% vol... Now, you fast forward fiv…”
Mark Baumgartner Nov 26, 2018 ▶ 28:33 Mark Baumgartner – Luck, Risk and Uncertainty at the Institute for Advanced Study (Capital Allocators, EP.77)
Mar 25, 2019 positive
Insight
Active equity managers have no excuse to withhold portfolio data
“For an active manager that's in equities, there's no excuse why you can't get the data, because it's very simple to do it. There's tons of ways. It doesn't cost much in this day and age with data to do it.”
Jordi Visser Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 1:16:35 Jordi Visser – Next Generation of Manager Allocation (Capital Allocators, EP.92)
Jun 10, 2019 neutral
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Equity returns only stem from growth, multiple expansion, or capital returns
“When you're holding for that long, and you think about equities at an elemental level, I think there's just three ways to earn return. The businesses you own grow. In sales, earnings, EBITDA, whatever it is, free cash, the multiples of those fundamentals expan…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 12:20 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Nov 4, 2019 positive
Insight
Fitzpatrick: Convertible bonds provide an exceptional multi-dimensional education
“First of all, they're cross-asset class security, but it's also a security where a lot of things can go wrong and right, so it's a great teacher and You also learn about the perils and benefits of correlations between equities and rates and what can happen whe…”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 12:18 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Feb 17, 2020 bullish
Insight
High-yield spreads blowing past 600 bps marks a prime equity entry
“When high-yield spreads blow out past six, that's as good a time of any to start dumping money into equities.”
Dan Rasmussen Feb 17, 2020 ▶ 58:46 Dan Rasmussen – Private Equity Risk and Public Equity Opportunity at Verdad Advisers (First Meeting, EP.15)
Mar 23, 2020 neutral
Insight
Mauboussin: High yield debt provides a direct comparability benchmark for equities
“High yield typically trades not dissimilarly to equities. It's a little bit more of a senior claim. And so you have sort of something that's not too far off in terms of a comparability and allows you to sort of calibrate.”
Michael Mauboussin Mar 23, 2020 ▶ 17:03 Michael Mauboussin – Consilient Observations in a Crisis (Capital Allocators, EP.127)
Mar 30, 2020
Assertion Supported
Inker: Historical crises dilute diversified equity portfolios by at most 5%
“Historically, apart from events of, frankly, revolution and regime change, we haven't seen profoundly dilutive events. We've seen things where you got diluted A few percent, maybe as much as five percent.”
Ben Inker Mar 30, 2020 ▶ 1:10:41 Ben Inker – Value Investing at GMO (First Meeting, EP.17)
Mar 30, 2020
Insight
Inker: Long-term equity value loss requires either lower ROIC or shareholder dilution
“The two ways you can lose value in equities from a long-term perspective Is if an event causes a long-term decrease in the return on capital, or if an event causes you as a shareholder to be significantly diluted.”
Ben Inker Mar 30, 2020 ▶ 1:10:02 Ben Inker – Value Investing at GMO (First Meeting, EP.17)
Mar 30, 2020 neutral
Insight
Inker: Equities are longer duration than perpetual bonds due to cash flow growth
“Equities are in principle an exceptionally long duration asset. Relative to bonds, they are both a perpetuity, so there is no maturity date, and that makes them long duration. But also, they're even longer duration than a perpetual bond because their cash flow…”
Ben Inker Mar 30, 2020 ▶ 43:18 Ben Inker – Value Investing at GMO (First Meeting, EP.17)
Apr 6, 2020 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Peters: Equities are likely to drop much lower before crisis ends
“I think we're a lot closer to the ceiling in terms of equity prices here than we are to the floor. I think it's highly likely that we'll be a lot lower in equities before this is over.”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 34:45 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020 bearish
What-if
Peters: Without COVID stimulus, equities would have fallen 30% to 50% further
“And in the absence of what the fed and what the government have done with this, I think the equities would be down 30 to 50% from where they are right now.”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 33:24 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020 neutral
Disclosure
Peters: One River exited all equity positions in late February 2020
“We got out of all of our equities in the second half of February.”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 30:18 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 30, 2020 bullish
Disclosure
McCusker: NEPC 10-year assumptions project 6-7% equity returns versus 0.6% Treasuries
“We just went through a full rerunning of all of our assumptions, and we've got equity assumptions in the sixes, the sevens, even higher for emerging markets, and then a treasury assumption at . Six percent right in line with the yield right now. And you run th…”
Tim McCusker Apr 30, 2020 ▶ 4:33 Tim McCusker – Advising Through a Crisis at NEPC (Capital Allocators, EP.135)
May 11, 2020 neutral
Assertion Supported
Siegel: Ford Foundation outperformed mostly via high equity allocation, not manager selection
“I think we did over the very long run, but most of that was by having more equities than the average foundation in a period when equities went up tremendously.”
Larry Siegel May 11, 2020 ▶ 8:07 Laurence Siegel – Current Myths and Long-Term Optimism (Capital Allocators, EP.137)
May 25, 2020
Insight
Jefferson: Structured credit requires a bazaar mindset instead of a mall mindset
“If you're dealing in equities, you're dealing in high yield bonds where you can just go and buy a bond. I call it like shopping at the mall. You go to the mall, you know what you're going to buy. What we do is like going to the Turkish Bazaar and you show up w…”
Brett Jefferson May 25, 2020 ▶ 25:19 Brett Jefferson – Inefficiencies in Structured Credit at Hildene Capital Management (First Meeting, EP.19)
Mar 1, 2021 negative
Insight
Bisserier: Leveraged credit fails to provide true diversification against equities
“Risk parity in our mind is not just holding a bunch of line items at similar risk because a simple example is credit is if you hold credit in a leveraged fashion, you could make it have a similar risk level to equities, but it actually performs very similar to…”
Damien Bisserier Mar 1, 2021 ▶ 19:38 Alex Shahidi and Damien Bisserier – Uncorrelated Return and Balanced Risk at Evoke-ARIS (Capital Allocators, EP.179)
Mar 15, 2021 bullish
Insight
Ginns: Crypto Investing Now Functions Like Equities With Trackable Fundamentals
“Going from really supply demand dynamics for individual tokens to an investment paradigm that looks Quite analogous to equities with fundamentals that you can track, you can run valuation metrics, and you can put price targets on various tokens and really use …”
Seth Ginns Mar 15, 2021 ▶ 16:24 Crypto for Institutions 3: Seth Ginns – Investing Beyond Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.182)
Mar 29, 2021 bullish
Prediction Partly held up
Housenbold in 2021: Central bank liquidity will continuously buoy asset prices
“You look at central banks around the world and they're all pledging to do roughly the same thing. That will continue to buoy assets and assets in the form of gold, in the form of Bitcoin, in real estate, and in equities.”
Jeff Hausenbold Mar 29, 2021 ▶ 52:14 Jeff Housenbold – Inside Softbank Vision Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.186)
Mar 29, 2021 bullish
Prediction Partly held up
Housenbold in 2021: Disinflation and low rates will drive continued multiple expansion
“In fact, disflation is probably a bigger risk than inflation over the last few years. I don't think the feds worried about interest rates, and that will continue to allow multiples to expand. It'll allow equities to continue to rise and allow startups to have …”
Jeff Hausenbold Mar 29, 2021 ▶ 52:34 Jeff Housenbold – Inside Softbank Vision Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.186)
Aug 12, 2021 bearish
Opinion
Jensen: Negative real yields are priced into both equities and bonds
“The world is bad for investors going forward. It's been great looking backwards. So take that, but recognize going forward, the real yield priced into everything is bad. People look at the real yield in bonds and say, Why would I want a negative one, negative …”
Greg Jensen Aug 12, 2021 ▶ 36:54 Greg Jensen – Bridgewater Associates (Manager Meetings, EP.06)
Jun 20, 2022 positive
Insight
Forman: Tokens represent the fifth global asset class
“Tokens are really interesting because they're very much a new asset class. They're the fifth asset class in the world. Pre-tokens, there were equities, fixed income, currencies, and commodities, and really every asset could be put into one of those four catego…”
Ben Forman Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 55:09 Ben Forman – Opportunities in DeFi (EP.256, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.03)
Jul 11, 2022
Insight
Credit Volatility Is Half of Equities; Currency Volatility Is One-Third
“We think of it, equities, vol is the highest, and then credit is about half of that, and the currency is about a third of equity vol, generally speaking.”
Rob Citrone Jul 11, 2022 ▶ 34:44 Rob Citrone – Emerging Markets, Hedge Funds, and Staying in the Game (Capital Allocators, EP.261)
Oct 10, 2022 bearish
Assertion Supported
Gave: 2022 losses on long bonds exceed losses on equities
“The most obvious and glaring difference is how this year you're losing more money on long bonds than you are on equities.”
Louis-Vincent Gave Oct 10, 2022 ▶ 7:56 Louis-Vincent Gave – The Case for Emerging Markets (Capital Allocators, EP.275)
Oct 10, 2022
Insight
Gave: Financial markets act as reservoirs for excess liquidity
“Financial markets are really a big reservoir of excess liquidity. You, me, everybody needs money to go through our daily lives, to buy stuff, to pay for the energy we need, to pay for our food, pay for everything. And when there's stuff left over, it tends to …”
Louis-Vincent Gave Oct 10, 2022 ▶ 6:06 Louis-Vincent Gave – The Case for Emerging Markets (Capital Allocators, EP.275)
May 29, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Fagan: Multi-manager platforms have historically beaten equity returns with bond-like volatility
“Now with these platforms that we're talking about, if you look over the last three, five, 10, or even 20 to 30 years in cases where they've been around for that long, and there are some that have, the platforms have actually outperformed equities on a total re…”
Dan Fagan May 29, 2023 ▶ 34:07 Hedge Fund Master Class – Craig Bergstrom, Adam Blitz, and Dan Fagan (Capital Allocators, EP.318)
Sep 9, 2023 neutral
Insight
Seides: Asset Allocation Drives Returns Only in the Rearview Mirror
“David was a staunch proponent of asset allocation, but he recognized that asset allocation drives returns in the rearview mirror. If investors choose equities, and equities outperform over time, then asset allocation mathematically dominates long-term return a…”
Ted Seides Sep 9, 2023 ▶ 8:34 WTT: The Real Yale Model
Oct 9, 2023 bullish
Disclosure
Sawtell-Rickson: HESTA sees promising early signs from neural networks in equities
“There's a few early models on neural networks and equities, which are starting to sort of show Some promising signs.”
Sonya Sawtell-Rickson Oct 9, 2023 ▶ 1:02:07 Sonya Sawtell-Rickson – Total Portfolio Approach at Australian Superannuation HESTA (EP.342)
Nov 6, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Thacker Breaks Down Rice's Endowment: 25% Real Assets, 60% Equities
“You have 25% real assets, and then about 15% really ballast that will always be there, and some of that is in fixed income, cash, a little bit of it is in some truly hedged alternative managers, which is, I think, the minority of the alternatives bucket for mo…”
Allison Thacker Nov 6, 2023 ▶ 47:25 Allison Thacker – Different Perspectives and Different Assets at Rice University (EP.348)
Jan 29, 2024 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Arndt: Traditional Diversification Yielded Significantly Negative Returns Over Three Years
“But if you look over the last three years, actually diversification has been significantly negative because obviously bonds and equities have been correlated in a bad way, but alpha has been really, really strong.”
Raphael Arndt Jan 29, 2024 ▶ 26:27 Raphael Arndt – The Death of Traditional Portfolio Construction? (EP.365)
Jan 29, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Arndt: Future Macro Regime Demands Less Reliance on Equities and Bonds
“When we look at the world going forward, we see more inflation, more volatility, probably wars, at least in localized places more frequently, deglobalization, more populist governments that will direct capital, all those things detract from economic growth, al…”
Raphael Arndt Jan 29, 2024 ▶ 17:01 Raphael Arndt – The Death of Traditional Portfolio Construction? (EP.365)
Jun 3, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Fink: SWIB's 112% asset allocation spans 38% equities, 26% fixed income, 30% privates
“But we're about 38% in equities, 26 in fixed income, 19% in tips, 30%, give or take, in privates. So that's 10 in private real estate and 20 in private equity and private debt. And that gets you to about a 112.”
Anne-Marie Fink Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 28:45 Anne-Marie Fink - Cutting Edge Pension Investing at SWIB (EP.389)
Oct 21, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Briner: North Carolina pension holds a massive 52% fixed income allocation
“It's roughly 48% in aggregate equity exposure, including some private equity, but mostly public equity, and 52% investment grade fixed income. There's some other pieces in that, but largely investment grade fixed income. There's about seven and a half percent …”
Brad Briner Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 46:46 Brad Briner - Family Office to Public Service (EP.413)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Peters: Rebalancing hedging profits during drawdowns boosts post-bear market compounding
“Even though equities are deeply discounted, but you're rotating money back into the S&P. When that market correction or bear market ends, you're now compounding from a much higher base than if you just owned equities the whole time.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 22:42 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 negative
Insight
Peters: Chasing S&P Outperformance Often Causes Investors to Exit at Bottoms
“Some of them try to outperform the S&P, and they end up oftentimes taking on a lot of additional risk that's quite correlated to underlying equities. It works great in the right market environment. And then when the market turns against those players, the loss…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 11:44 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Peters: Future Equity Returns Will Be Weaker and Highly Volatile
“I suspect that it won't be as strong as looking back over the last 20 years. I suspect it'll be more volatile. There could be times where it's brilliantly positive as well. I think there are big right tails. There are also some really bad tails that are potent…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 12:28 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 neutral
Insight
Peters: Equities Drive 90% of Institutional Portfolio Risk
“If you look at the real risk in their portfolio, it's probably 90% driven by equities, and it comes in all sorts of different forms, private equity, public equity, credit. You end up with portfolios that there's just one risk factor, which is equities.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 19:30 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Mar 24, 2025 bullish
Insight
Illiquid assets, small caps, and equities will outperform long-term
“We believe over long periods of time, Illiquid's going to outperform liquid. Small's going to outperform large. Equities are going to outperform fixed income.”
Ed Grefenstette Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 26:36 Ed Grefenstette – Bold Allocations at The Dietrich Foundation (EP.437)
May 5, 2025 positive
Insight
Private markets tech is mirroring equities and fixed income evolution
“Pre-private markets infrastructure becoming the next market structure evolution, in my view, after equities fixed income derivatives, but very informative in terms of how I think about the technology evolution that's happening in private markets from pre to po…”
Michael Sidgmore May 5, 2025 ▶ 10:10 Michael Sidgmore – Alternatives Go Mainstream (Private Wealth 1, EP.443)
Sep 1, 2025
Disclosure
Future Fund equity book is 50% developed, 25% EM, 25% Australia
“The equity exposure overall is about 30% of the fund. And that's roughly about half developed market equities and a quarter each of emerging market in Australian equities.”
Raphael Arndt Sep 1, 2025 ▶ 27:30 CIO Greatest Hits: Sovereign Wealth Funds – Raphael Arndt (Australia Future Fund)
Jul 6, 2026
Insight
Dorsey: Allocators Face Harder Underwriting Than Public Equity Investors
“You can never be too transparent. That's the biggest lesson. I've met investors who won't write about positions. You have to pry information out of them about the companies that they own. Clients don't like that. Somebody investing with you as a manager, they …”
Pat Dorsey Jul 6, 2026 ▶ 1:03:22 Moat Investing Nuances – Pat Dorsey (EP.509)
Jul 13, 2026 negative
Disclosure
Moyo: Family office Altered Trajectory avoids bonds and leverage.
“We're more equity loving. We're not big on bonds. Anything that's on the leverage side is not exciting for us.”
Baroness Dambisa Moyo Jul 13, 2026 ▶ 40:45 Economic Growth, Governance, and Capital Allocation – Dambisa Moyo (EP.510)
Jul 16, 2026 negative
Insight
Danieli: 'Star pickers' belong in equities, not private credit
“We try to avoid having people in a team and developing people that You want to be the star loan picker. In my view, that's for equities. We get compound returns, and you can have the 10 bag or upside. That's not our business. The people that thrive for us are …”
Frank Danieli Jul 16, 2026 ▶ 37:05 Roadmap for Private Credit from Australia – Frank Danieli of MA Financial Group (EP.511)
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