Sonya Sawtell-Rickson
Chief Investment Officer, HESTA · 1 appearance on the record.
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Sonya Sawtell-Rickson serves as Chief Investment Officer at Australian superannuation fund HESTA, where she oversees the investment program and has pioneered a Total Portfolio Approach. Prior to joining HESTA in 2017, she was an Investment Director at Queensland Investment Corporation.
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Sawtell-Rickson: Private credit investors are overpaid for risk amid bank retreat
“And probably, to be honest, we think we're being overpaid for the risk we're taking in the current environment of scarcity as banks are pulling back.”
Divesting high-carbon assets is not ESG success for universal owners
“We know that we don't just want carbon emissions to reduce in our portfolio. That would be easy. I could just sell everything with high carbon and be done tomorrow. But that is absolutely not success for us. Success is reducing carbon emissions in the real eco…”
HESTA rejects committee decision-making in favor of individual risk delegation
“We actually delegate decisions to key decision makers. There are a lot of decision makers in our business. I don't get to make every decision, for example. We're very fortunate that we've got a lot of delegation from our investment committees. They set clear p…”
Sawtell-Rickson: Equity markets have not priced in consumer bifurcation and debt risks
“That is something we're watching closely, and we just don't think equity markets have really priced that risk at the moment.”
Sawtell-Rickson: Markets are complex adaptive systems with medium-term predictability
“My personal view on markets is very much That they tend towards being complex adaptive systems. I think we can talk about them as complex environments, but there is a level of predictability, and we do think markets are somewhat predictable over the medium ter…”
Sawtell-Rickson: Top investors use a total portfolio approach over siloed benchmarks
“The way I believe the best investors sort of attack markets is with a total portfolio approach. So very much embedding in the entire team, a deep understanding of those investment objectives, a deep understanding of what matters most for our members. So moving…”
HESTA hit initial carbon reduction goal early, raised 2030 target to 50%
“We set ourselves an interim target in 2020, a third reduction in our carbon emissions by 2030, and pleasingly two years in, we've achieved that objective, so we've increased it to 50% now.”
Sawtell-Rickson: Investment Debates Should Focus on Core Beliefs Over Valuations
“So rather than talking about whether equities are cheap or expensive, we're talking about, well, what are our beliefs around how equities behave? What really is driving our views on earnings growth into the future or multiples into the future? How do we see ri…”
Sawtell-Rickson: Internal investment capabilities make allocators better manager partners
“And I think, again, what's been interesting is that by having that sophistication in house, it actually makes us better partners. It's been fascinating to watch how the relationships with our active managers globally and even domestically have really improved.…”
Sawtell-Rickson: Universal owners bear the cost of corporate externalities in portfolio performance
“We are a large global investor. We are exposed to the global economy and these risks and externalities that individual companies create have an impact on the system. We pay the cost, whether we pay it directly or we pay it indirectly. We pay that cost in our p…”
Sawtell-Rickson: Inflation-linked bonds are a cheap portfolio hedge
“It seems to us like a cheap hedge to be adding to the portfolio, especially even ILBs now. Inflation linked bonds with real yields really rising over the past while, locking in and protecting some of that real yield for our members is attractive.”
Sawtell-Rickson: HESTA prefers private markets for credit dislocation opportunities
“And at the moment we're preferring private markets. We think the dislocation is better and, you know, more targeted in private markets, but that's not always the case.”
Sawtell-Rickson: Real Assets Preserve Value via Replacement Costs and Indexed Income
“Obviously constrained by the cost of replacement, and as the cost of replacement rises, inflation rises, they can hold value in a way that other things may not, as well as often having inflation linked income streams.”
Sawtell-Rickson: Crisis agility requires manual intervention in quantitative market models
“So you've got to have the preparation to be able to make decisions in the moment. You have to have found that alignment and belief on how you believe markets will work. And then you need a culture that you can come together with agility and make decisions quic…”
Sawtell-Rickson: Traditional recession indicators are triggering across markets
“We're seeing a lot of indicators that are traditional recession indicators triggering. Obviously we've got an inverted yield curve. We've got leading indicators starting to slow. We're seeing employment starting to turn. High inflation, rising interest rates. …”
HESTA's MySuper default option targets CPI plus 3% real return
“We offer a number of products, but almost three quarters of our funds are in our MySuper default balanced growth option, and the real return objective for that fund is CPI plus three percent.”
HESTA allocates 58% to equities, 16% to real assets, 24% to debt
“It's a balanced growth fund, so it does hold a reasonable amount of growth assets, a significant amount of equities, around 58%, including private equity. We've got around 16% in real assets, so infrastructure and property to give that inflation hedging charac…”
HESTA Limits Dynamic Equity Tilts to Plus or Minus 10%
“They're not big tilt. So we're not going plus or -30% equities. And that's because we have the product by definition is in a risk cohort. And so we are limited by the ranges that we publish to our members. But within those ranges, and they're broadly plus -10%…”
HESTA reports SDG alignment and participates in Harvard impact pilot
“We are using those taxonomies and we are reporting publicly on our investment aligned with the SDGs step one. We're also part of a pilot program with the Harvard called the impact weighted accounts, which is really trying to start to translate externalities, b…”
HESTA bought cheap inflation hedges in 2019 when priced at 1%
“So we were buying inflation Back in 2019, when it was pricing at one percent, we were loving inflation. So, well, let's buy some of that.”
Sawtell-Rickson: HESTA expects to transition to fewer, deeper partners
“So we think we'll probably have Fewer, deeper partners into the future, and then how do we create capability so that we have more discretion in our building?”
Market downturns trigger collateral calls for Australian funds via currency drops
“In Australia, when markets tend to go south very quickly, the Australian dollar also tends to go south very quickly, which means where we hedge some of our international exposure, we can end up with lots of collateral calls on our currency hedges.”
HESTA entered the COVID-19 pandemic with an overweight 9% cash allocation
“We were fortunate we actually went into that period through our dynamic asset allocation process, underweight risk assets, and overweight cash. So we were running about nine percent cash going into COVID.”
HESTA's COVID-19 liquidity demand and collateral outflow forecast was within 5%
“Following our process, we quickly formed a view on what we thought that collateral that would go out of our fund, so the external liquidity demands would be, and it turned out we were within five percent of our estimate, which was a fantastic outcome.”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Sonya Sawtell-Rickson – Total Portfolio Approach at Australian Superannuation HESTA (EP.34 | Oct 9, 2023 | 46m |