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Chamath predicts Tesla and SpaceX will merge by mid-next year
“When Tesla and SpaceX merge and we have all things, Elon and Elon Corp. Okay. Which will happen. Probably by the end of the year, maybe it'll happen in the middle of next year.”
Musk: Mars could become self-sustaining in roughly 25 to 30 years
“I think it can be done in, in 30 years. Provided there's an exponential increase in the tonnage to Mars, with each successive Mars transfer windows, which is every two years. So every two years, the planets align, and you can transfer to Mars. So I think in, R…”
Palihapitiya: Tesla will eventually merge into Elon Musk's wider ecosystem
“I still don't like the fact that Tesla's over here. And as I've told you, that will get merged in.”
Musk predicts SpaceX will demonstrate full Starship reusability by 2026
“Unless we have some very major setbacks SpaceX will demonstrate full reusability next year catching both the booster and the ship and being able to deliver over a hundred tons to a useful orbit.”
Friedberg: Coastal Commission cited Musk's tweets to block SpaceX launches
“I will comment on the California Coastal Commission ruling that was based on Elon's political tweets, which is why they stopped additional launches out of Vandenberg.”
Khosla: Rocket Lab has a superior strategy to SpaceX
“We're investors in Rocket Lab, so I like it a little more. They do have a superior strategy, but SpaceX has done a great job.”
Chamath: DOJ sued SpaceX for hiring policies the DOJ itself follows
“The DOJ sued SpaceX basically for DEI foot faults. They said that there was not enough Refugees and asylum seekers that were being adequately considered and being hired by SpaceX. The problem with that, as it turns out, is that the DOJ is not even allowed to h…”
Chamath: ULA, Blue Origin, and European launch providers are too inconsistent to rely on
“You can't launch with ULA because they're inconsistent. You can't launch with Blue Origin because they're inconsistent. You can't launch with the Europeans in general because they're inconsistent. SpaceX is the only solution”
Gracias: Electric VTOL startups will earn basic industrial margins due to competition
“SpaceX is an end of one. If you compare that to someone making an electric vehicle that, say, an electric airplane or electric VTOL, that will not be an end of one. It'll be an end of many. And in an end of many business, you're ultimately going to have margin…”
Palihapitiya: Twitter free speech impact could exceed Tesla and SpaceX
“I think that if he is able to make free speech cool again, he'll, he'll actually do more doing that than potentially through SpaceX and Tesla, and that's already saying a lot.”
Gerstner: Frontier AI labs pay 3x to 5x market price for compute
“Right now the shortage is so acute, and the willingness to pay from the Frontier Labs is so high because they all recognize they're on the verge of some massive breakthroughs. That they're willing to pay three, four, five X market pricing in order to get at sc…”
Gerstner: Combined Cursor and Grok could reach $10B–$20B by year-end
“Cursor was already on a path to go from three billion to ten billion by the end of the year. Cursor plus Grock could be at 10 to twenty billion by the end of the year.”
Gerstner: SpaceX investors can triple their money over 3 to 4 years
“And now you have a company at 1.4 trillion that I think if you take a three or four year view, you can see yourself tripling your money in this business at a very reasonable valuation on the Morgan Stanley numbers or on the Elon numbers or whatever.”
Friedberg: Starlink alone could reach a $1T valuation within 18 months
“The Starlink business alone could be a trillion dollar market cap within two years, within 18 months, let's say.”
Friedberg: Starlink could generate $30B in annual free cash flow within a year
“Starlink alone could be generating on the order of forty billion dollars of revenue top line with a huge amount of that flowing to free cash. That could be a thirty billion dollar free cash flow within the year.”
Calacanis: Every Tesla sold will include built-in Starlink connectivity
“So the piece there that's going to be explained probably in the next year or two is every single Tesla sold is going to have Starlink in it when they get that merger done. What that means is you're going to have wifi networks connecting any phone. To any Tesla…”
Mark Cuban: Mid-market tech companies should pursue $100M IPOs
“Because it's so driven by private capital, there should be a lot more companies going public, not at the SpaceX level, not open AI, not anthropic, but the hundred million dollar IPO.”
Gerstner: SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI will compound revenue at 30%+ annually
“I think all of these companies are gonna compound revenue at well over 30% for the next many years.”
Calacanis: Retail investors would have bought SpaceX early without accredited investor rules
“People knew SpaceX. They were watching these rockets launch for a long time, and they would have placed that bet 10 years ago when the company was worth a hundred billion or ten billion or You know, five hundred billion, but they weren't allowed to because we …”
Marshall: Starship will drastically lower space launch costs in 2-3 years
“On the current trajectory with Starship in particular, I would expect it, the launch costs come down there in two to three years.”
Laffont: SpaceX will go public in the next few weeks
“That doesn't include three companies that we know will be coming public pretty shortly, SpaceX obviously in the next few weeks, and we know Anthropic just today, the headlines hit that they've submitted confidentially for their S-one.”
Laffont: Starlink will enable worldwide satellite phone calls within a few years
“I believe that within a few years, Starlink will power a device which will actually enable you to make a phone call anywhere in the world.”
Palihapitiya: SpaceX revenue will reach $40B-$45B next year and double after
“So I suspect what happens is next year, it's probably 40, forty five billion. And then the year after that, it probably doubles again.”
Calacanis: Anthropic signed $45B compute rental deal with SpaceX
“Anthropic is paying SpaceX, wait for it, 1.25 billion a month. To rent out Colossus One and parts of Colossus Two. It's a forty five billion dollar deal over three years, fifteen billion a year.”
Palihapitiya: SpaceX revenue will probably reach $25B-$30B this year
“Well, last year it did 18, nineteen billion dollars. It'll probably do 25 to 30 this year.”
Gavin Baker: Major tech firms are convinced orbital compute will become reality
“Google, Anthropic, Amazon, NVIDIA. They are all very convinced that orbital compute is going to be reality, and obviously SpaceX is extraordinarily well positioned for that.”
Chamath: SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI IPOs will trigger litany of SPV lawsuits
“By the way, and I will guarantee you this. Once SpaceX goes public, once Anthropic goes public, once OpenAI goes public, you're going to see a litany of these lawsuits back and forth between the purveyors of these SPVs.”
Gerstner: SpaceX IPO will trade at 40 to 50 times revenue
“This is why the SpaceX IPO is going to trade at 40 to 50 times revenue.”
Calacanis: SpaceX, xAI, and Cursor will lead AI coding within 12 months
“If you put these two together, I predict that this is going to move Space X, X, X AI and cursor to the front of the coding leaderboard within 12 months.”
Sankar: SpaceX Starship heavy reuse will cut launch costs below $20/kg
“Starship heavy reuse will be under 20 bucks a kilogram”
Chamath: Public markets will exhaust capital after initial tech IPOs
“I don't think we're going to have like these quote unquote blockbuster stream of IPOs. I think what happens is SpaceX is going to get out. They're going to do great. And then maybe the next one does good to great. Then the next one will do good. And then the a…”
Calacanis: Combined SpaceX and xAI will IPO this year
“Now those two become part of SpaceX and they're going to IPO this year, potentially the biggest IPO in history in terms of money raised and market cap.”
Chamath: SpaceX will reverse merge into Tesla instead of IPOing
“I don't think SpaceX will IPO. I think that it will reverse merge into Tesla, and I think Elon will use it as a moment to consolidate control and power of his two seminal assets into one cap table.”
Tenev: Robinhood was first to tokenize OpenAI and SpaceX shares
“We were actually, I think, the first to tokenize OpenAI and SpaceX, and we made that available to our retail customers in Europe in the form of a giveaway”
Isaacman: Without SpaceX, the US would already be behind China in space launch
“Thank goodness for SpaceX, or we definitely be already behind in that regard.”
Friedberg: SpaceX could reach $10/kg launch costs within a couple of years
“So if you can reuse that thing 10 times, that's a 3.5 million dollar cost per launch, plus a million for fuel. You could easily see, and this thing can launch 200 tons. That's how you start to get to 10 bucks a kilogram over the next couple of years.”
Musk: EPA fined SpaceX $140,000 for discharging potable water
“SpaceX was fined by the EPA, 140,000 dollars for they claimed dumping potable water on the ground.”
Musk: Most of SpaceX's revenue is commercial, not government contracts
“And a lot of people think, well, SpaceX is super dependent on the government, and actually, no, most of our revenue is commercial.”
Chamath: Starlink will go public in 2024
“I'm gonna go with the same thing. I think I was just off by your Starlink will go public.”
Musk: Starship will be capable of aircraft-level flight rates
“So, it will be capable of, you know, basically aircraft level flight rates.”
Baker: Starship will carry 100+ metric tons to orbit under $2M variable cost
“Once you do that, they should be able to send over a hundred metric tons to orbit at a variable cost of under two million dollars per public data.”
Chamath: SpaceX is the only company capable of building and launching satellite capacity
“The only company that actually has the capability to build and to launch is SpaceX. So they have a complete monopoly and because they're advantaging their own Solution. It puts everybody else behind the eight ball.”
Chamath predicts Starlink will IPO in 2023 at a $75B+ valuation
“Starlink will go public. Oh, SpaceX will cut and paste the cap table. And we will take that. Yum. Yum. It'll be yummy and delicious. And my prediction is that the Starlink valuation will be at least half of SpaceX's current private mark.”
Gracias: Starlink will deliver very high margins and strong ROIC
“So it's like in building Starlink, same thing, capital going in, but we know that the margins and the profitability of that business on the back end will be very, very high, and so the ROIC will be very good.”
Palihapitiya: NASA spent $360 billion while SpaceX spent $11 billion
“They went back and they actually counted how much money NASA spent in like the last seven or eight years, and the number was 360 odd billion dollars. And then they counted how much money SpaceX had spent, and it was, you know, if you counted revenue between se…”
Friedberg: Elon Musk is the only hype man who delivers in deep tech
“There's only one hype man on planet Earth that is good enough to pull this off and actually deliver the goods at the end of the day. It's probably Elon, like, because, you know, he funded these businesses that were deep tech businesses, Tesla and SpaceX. For m…”