Dan Loeb

Founder, CEO & CIO, Third Point LLC · 1 appearance on the record.

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Daniel Loeb founded New York-based hedge fund Third Point LLC in 1995, building it into a multi-asset firm managing billions across equities, private credit, and venture capital. He is best known on Wall Street for his aggressive shareholder activism and letters targeting corporate governance at major public companies.

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2 predictions · 1 assertion · 3 opinions · 1 insight · 5 disclosures · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertion are the 3 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 0 are resolved, and 3 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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What the tape says about how Dan argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

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No argument clarity score for Dan Loeb: only 2 usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 4,003 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

What they said13 What others said9 Episodes1

Everything Dan Loeb said on All-In that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Not checkable as stated

Loeb: DOJ threatened to investigate Trump if he commuted Ross Ulbricht

“On the last day of Trump's 45th term, We were certain that he was going to get out, and the Justice Department, for whatever reason, said, if you commute his sentence, we're going to go after you, to the President. So he, as I understand he withdrew the commut…”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 29:14 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Prediction Not checkable as stated

Loeb: Humans will always be needed in capital allocation despite AI

“Maybe, maybe you can theorize that there will be agents that will sit at Andreessen Horowitz and whoever else, your funds, but I think the human will always have to be there”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 13:21 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Insight

Loeb: Solely valuation-based shorting is risky due to retail squeezes

“I think one thing that we've avoided is kind of evaluation, a solely valuation based approach. There's a, I've just seen I've seen too many people get run over by shorts that have dumb valuations, but they get captured on, you know, Reddit or one of these othe…”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 16:34 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Disclosure

Loeb: Third Point has been shorting homebuilder-related equities

“We had, ah, a really strong view on home builders from last year that, ah, there were two things going on. It wasn't just It wasn't just rates, mortgage spreads that were depressing housing prices, that home prices, that the home building industry was first st…”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 17:02 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Opinion

Dan Loeb: NVIDIA is absolutely undervalued based on multi-year earnings

“Yeah, absolutely. On earnings over the next two or three years.”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 21:36 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Opinion

Loeb: Investors could be economically or technologically illiterate before the GFC

“You could be technologically illiterate or just say, I don't do it. And you could also be even more or less, you know, up until the GFC, I think you could be more or less economically illiterate and make a lot of money.”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 9:10 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Disclosure

Loeb: Third Point is investing outside tech in adaptable management teams

“We're investing Outside of tech into companies that have you know, some great, well, first of all, it also comes back to the management because we can't really just look at a product or a technology and say, oh, this is going to be it forever. So we really loo…”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 15:04 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Disclosure

Dan Loeb: Short-side investing is fun when uncovering fraudulent companies

“I mean, investing is fun, and particularly on the short side. I mean, there's so much humor in it when you, Detect these companies, especially in the nineties. I mean, it was really unsupervised. There were some incredibly fraudulent companies out there, and i…”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 2:01 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Opinion

Loeb: Identifying 10-to-20-year business moats is harder today than in the past

“And it's, it is harder now. I don't think we can, I don't know that we can really go out, you know, 10 or 20 years ago. By the way, I think we deluded ourselves earlier, because I think if you ask people about the moat around, you know, IBM, or, you know, some…”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 14:39 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Disclosure

Loeb: Third Point avoids taking board seats to maintain liquidity

“That was one, I think we learned not to go on boards anymore because it restricts your ability to be liquid”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 19:19 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

What-if

Loeb: Third Point would have made $4B if it kept Enphase stock

“We're also early investors in, in end phase. And we Sold some stock on the IPO, and then took a tax hit, and I think sold it under a dollar, and the stock, I think had we stayed on, would have made four billion dollars.”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 19:28 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Prediction Not checkable as stated

Loeb: U.S. taxpayers will make a ton of money from Atom Computing

“The government, the taxpayers are gonna make a ton of money on this, and their involvement also has, will contribute meaningfully to the value of this business.”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 25:47 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

Disclosure

Dan Loeb: Third Point sold all its Palantir stock in the $20s

“We were we were private investors in Palantir And I think we sold all our stock in the twenties.”

Dan Loeb Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 18:59 Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

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