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Luca Ferrari

Co-Founder & CEO, Bending Spoons. On 3 shows, 3 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Luca Ferrari co-founded Milan-based technology company Bending Spoons in 2013, scaling it through acquisitions including Evernote, Meetup, and Splice. He is known for a permanent-capital playbook that acquires mature software assets to overhaul their codebase, cost structure, and operating efficiency for long-term ownership.

3shows
3appearances
107statements
18resolved
13supported
3contradicted
72%fully supported
5said about them ↓

Everything Luca Ferrari said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

Ferrari: Most software R&D is a waste of money
“I think people in general overestimate the value of R&D. Let me qualify. They think that generally pouring money into building stuff pays, pays off. It's really not true at all. What we find is that there's a very small number of things that pay, pay off hands…”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 53:41 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: Founders complaining about investor exit pressure are naive or dishonest
“I think a lot of entrepreneurs take money from investors and have a level of Entitlement that they should never be asked to provide a return. It's like, oh, but why do you ask me to sell now? It's only been four years, five years. I think that's either naive o…”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 55:55 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
NEON SHOW Insight
Ferrari: Finding product-market fit is overwhelmingly driven by luck for most founders
“Our hypothesis was that to find product market fit with something very new, Most of it was luck. We felt talent and hard work came nowhere near guaranteeing you would. I mean, maybe, maybe there are some incredibly rare talents. Some people can see it, but I'm…”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 14:47 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ferrari predicts AI will eliminate far more jobs than it creates
“But I will say, maybe, no, I don't, it doesn't qualify as advice, but the opinion I hear most often that I think is really poorly informed and poorly thought out is that Artificial intelligence will create more jobs than it will eliminate. I believe, and again…”
Luca Ferrari Mar 15, 2024 ▶ 58:47 Luca Ferrari: Scaling to 500M Downloads, $360M in Reported 2023 Sales and a $2.55BN Valuation |E1127 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Ferrari: Standalone companies like Evernote attract average talent on average
“So on average, a business like Evernote, no matter how charismatic, intelligent its leaders are, will attract somewhat Average talent.”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 19:03 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: Bending Spoons offers near maximum upfront to avoid negotiating up
“We try to make an offer that's sometimes the maximum will to pay or close to it because we think although we could probably get a better deal in the moment if we started lower, Then we don't want to establish a reputation for people you can push around and get…”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 43:30 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: Outlier investors evaluate fundamentals from first principles instead of pattern matching
“Most good investors are they recognize patterns. So I've seen a certain business model work, and I use that to select their investments. If done right, this is a very successful way of investing. And then there are the bad investors and the amazing investors, …”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 57:10 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: People can only evaluate intelligence up to their own level
“I find that if someone is eight out of 10 smart, they can only discern the sevens from the sixes from the fives, but the eight and a half, the nines, the tens for them look like the same, like a big batch of, oh, they're so smart. And so to be able to distingu…”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 1:00:52 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
INVEST LIKE THE BEST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ferrari: AI Capable of Building Complex SaaS Like Jira Is Years Away
“As far away. Like, it's not months away. It's not even a couple of years away. AI today can't do a lot for you beyond, say, research, copywriting, and maybe some basic content production, but it'll do more and more, and fast.”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 1:16:05 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: Bending Spoons Holds Far Superior Advantages Over Private Equity
“I think we have far superior competitive advantage, advantages than a private equity because essentially a private equity, every single, every acquisition is, is almost a, we start afresh in a way. In our case, we do well because of the platform and the struct…”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 1:21:04 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: Recreating Bending Spoons with $1B Would Take 7–8 Years
“It's the tip of the iceberg, but then from there to actual day-to-day, make it work, but even if I started over with all I know, and even if someone said, oh, I trust you'll do super well, here's a billion dollars, to get to where we are now, say, 12 years aft…”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 1:21:45 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
NEON SHOW Assertion Supported
Ferrari: Bending Spoons generates profits in the hundreds of millions
“Yeah, we don't disclose that, but in the hundreds of millions.”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 6:45 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Disclosure
Ferrari: Bending Spoons triggers CEO search if survey gets multiple no votes
“As a company, we run a survey, my direct reports, a small selection of senior colleagues and one partner from each of our institutional investors. They fill out a survey, an anonymous survey. There's only one question and it's, well, technically it's two. One …”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 10:09 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Insight
Ferrari: Bending Spoons outsources finding product-market fit to VC investors
“We chose to build a Benny spoons in the way I mentioned so outsourcing, finding product market fit to the market. There's plenty of people looking to do that. Plenty of VCs and angel investors investing so that bets are made and rather Benny Spoon's coming in …”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 15:54 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ferrari: Bending Spoons Was the Highest Bidder on Every Acquisition Offer Made
“What I can say is that to my knowledge, every single time we have bid, we've made an offer. We've either acquired the business or the owner chose not to sell it. That's to say we have historically being by far to my knowledge, the best bidder.”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 23:15 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Assertion Partly supported
Ferrari: Remini is second most used genAI app globally behind ChatGPT
“Remini is far and away the number one product for AI-based image editing, image generation in the world. It's to my knowledge, the second most used generative AI product in the world. It has over a hundred million it's only second to chat GPT as far as I can t…”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 43:18 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Disclosure
Ferrari: Bending Spoons does not filter M&A targets primarily by PMF strength
“No, we don't really try to buy the product companies with the best product market fit. We do assign value to it, but ultimately something is only good to us if the price is appealing relative to the value we can let's say generate or the, you know, the value w…”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 48:00 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ferrari: Single-product companies will be more willing to sell due to AI risks
“In the imminent future, the next few years, I think it, it's an advantage for us for a bunch of reasons. First of all, it's a major threat for a lot of businesses, and if you are a single product business it makes you more willing, I believe, to sell. Because …”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 54:11 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
NEON SHOW Insight
Ferrari: AI widens talent divides by multiplying high-performer productivity
“AI makes capable people more capable. I, unfortunately, perhaps It increases all sorts of divides, bearing governments spreading, you know, opportunity and wealth. But in the wild, it increases divides. It makes a great engineer better by 10 times. And the med…”
Luca Ferrari Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 54:41 $2.5 Billion Tech Empire Built On Acquisitions, Efficiency, & Pure Ambition w/ Founder, Luca Ferrari
20VC Disclosure
Bending Spoons hires almost entirely for talent and motivation, disregarding experience
“In our case, we chose to focus on talent and motivation almost entirely disregarding experience.”
Luca Ferrari Mar 15, 2024 ▶ 41:22 Luca Ferrari: Scaling to 500M Downloads, $360M in Reported 2023 Sales and a $2.55BN Valuation |E1127 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Contradicted
Bending Spoons pays identical salaries regardless of an employee's geographic location
“Currently we have the same salaries regardless of where you are.”
Luca Ferrari Mar 15, 2024 ▶ 46:15 Luca Ferrari: Scaling to 500M Downloads, $360M in Reported 2023 Sales and a $2.55BN Valuation |E1127 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Supported
No shareholders in Bending Spoons have liquidation preferences
“All our share owners, myself, our institutional investors, our colleagues who got equity through their working at the company, nobody has any liquidation preferences, so we're all on equal terms economically.”
Luca Ferrari Mar 15, 2024 ▶ 54:04 Luca Ferrari: Scaling to 500M Downloads, $360M in Reported 2023 Sales and a $2.55BN Valuation |E1127 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Ferrari: Business Is a More Competitive Field Than Sports or Academia
“I think the business arena is, is arguably the most competitive field in which you can test yourself of any field, even more than sports, academia.”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 6:31 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best
Ferrari: Zero-to-one startup success depends on luck, not talent or work ethic
“We saw almost no correlation between the teams we considered more talented and more hardworking and those who came out on top, and so we concluded probably, I mean, it's not a huge sample, but probably to go from zero to one, Luck plays a huge role. There are …”
Luca Ferrari Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 14:01 The Playbook on Buying and Running Companies Forever · Invest Like The Best

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20VC Opinion
Singlehurst: Bending Spoons achieved high profitability by avoiding overcapitalization
“I think that's an amazing example of this company that was largely bootstrapped Has created the most amazing scalable business model profitability like most companies would give an arm for. And they did it by sort of circumventing that, that world of over capi…”
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INVEST LIKE THE BESTLEDGER Co-Founder & CEO, Bending Spoons 1 41 75% 3/4 full record on Invest Like the Best →
20VCLEDGER Co-Founder & CEO, Bending Spoons 1 33 57% 4/7 full record on 20VC →
NEON SHOWLEDGER Co-Founder & CEO, Bending Spoons 1 33 86% 6/7 full record on the Neon Show →
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