Reference Checks

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Cool: Asking 'when I call your manager' prompts more honest interview answers
“When I call Sally, What is she going to say about, you know, your biggest strengths? And what is she going to say about your biggest development errors? And just shifting that from when, from if, like if I call versus when I call. People shift what they say. T…”
Tracy Britt Cool Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 1:34:03 Building Great Businesses | Tracy Britt Cool
IN DEPTH Insight
De Milliano: References are useless unless aligned with the hiring company
“My main view on reference is that I actually don't think they're that useful unless you can find someone who has more incentive to tell you the truth than to, like, have the back of the person they're giving the reference on and someone who really understands …”
Eeke de Milliano Mar 6, 2025 ▶ 25:56 What makes (or breaks) executive hires | A deep dive with Eeke de Milliano (Stripe)
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Lemkin: 95% of startup hiring skips reference checks
“I would say 95% of the hiring I see out there, people don't do reference checks anymore, Lenny. And we can talk about when they work and when they don't, but no one does them.”
Jason Lemkin Feb 18, 2024 ▶ 41:05 Building a world-class sales org | Jason Lemkin (SaaStr)
Parr: Ask references how an 8-out-of-10 candidate becomes a 10
“And so I say, what are they out of scale? One to 10. They always say an eight or nine. And I say, all right, how can they be a perfect tenant? Like what's missing? And then that's typically when they'll tell me like bad stuff. And I'm always looking for that b…”
Sam Parr Oct 10, 2023 ▶ 20:18 CEO Lessons: Bulls**t Mission Statements, Firing People & Saying ‘NO' (#505)
IN DEPTH Insight
Drumright: Asking for percentile rankings forces honesty during reference checks
“Where would you rank this person in the top percent of people you've worked with? Top one percent, top five percent, top 10%, top 15, top 20. But I generally find it's a forcing function for honesty because it's a binary question. Right, and it's harder to ski…”
Anique Drumright Aug 3, 2023 ▶ 48:51 Lessons from Loom on product strategy and organizational leadership | Anique Drumright (COO at Loom)
20VC Insight
Duboe: Conduct candidate reference checks early rather than as late formalities
“I think one of the biggest mistakes people make is doing references too late and kind of treating it as a formality. Doing them early on, I think is a great way to kind of filter.”
Mike Duboe Feb 16, 2023 ▶ 25:38 Mike Duboe: Top 5 Lessons Scaling Stitch Fix to IPO; Why CAC/LTV is a BS Metric | 20VC #978 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Hiring managers refusing to allow reverse reference checks are red flags
“And if a company says no, or a person says no. I think that actually says a bit more about them than, you know, anything else, if they're trying to kind of withhold that from you, because why would you? If I'm a great manager, I'm happy to have you talk to peo…”
Adam Fishman Oct 13, 2022 ▶ 1:02:46 How to build a high-performing growth team | Adam Fishman (Patreon, Lyft, Imperfect Foods)
Hiring managers should hide preferred candidate traits during reference checks
“The other way I like to do it is to provide contrast, to give the person an out, to not make it obvious to them that I have this ranking. And so I'll say things like when you think about this person and I I'll give you four different personas... And I won't te…”
Shishir Mehrotra Aug 14, 2022 ▶ 1:18:18 The rituals of great teams | Shishir Mehrotra, Coda, YouTube, Microsoft
Mehrotra: Coda ranks reference checks first, work exercises second, and standard interviews last
“But if I had to stack rank in, in interviewing, what do I look for? Reference check at the top, you know, work product and presentation next, and then all the interviews. If when they disagree, that's the order we judge it.”
Shishir Mehrotra Aug 14, 2022 ▶ 1:24:00 The rituals of great teams | Shishir Mehrotra, Coda, YouTube, Microsoft
Reid Hoffman: Reference checks tell you more than candidate interviews
“I believe reference checks can actually tell you more about a candidate than a one-on-one interview.”
Reid Hoffman Jan 19, 2022 ▶ 25:10 Always be recruiting, with Kayak co-founder Paul English
Kate Noel: Reference checks should mandate contacts across multiple professional levels
“So for me, I feel like if we do have an opportunity to ask for referrals and we want something insightful to come from it, I like to give the task if it's applicable for people to give referrals at different levels. So instead of just saying, can you provide t…”
Kate Noel Oct 1, 2021 ▶ 12:23 Building Your Team #6: Ask an HR Executive
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Marc Lore: Reference checks almost never change hiring decisions
“It's very, very, very rare, and I talked to people about this, that you'll actually change your mind from a reference. Like, I want to hire this person, let me check the references, and then you're like, no, now I'm not going to hire the person. Or, I don't th…”
Marc Lore Jul 12, 2021 ▶ 20:26 20VC: Jet.com's Marc Lore on How To Assess Human Potential and "The Resume Test", Why Chief People Officer Should be One of Your First Hires and Why We Need a New Type of Venture Capital
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CB Insights rejects one-third of candidates during the reference check stage
“And when we get to references, I'd say one out of three candidates fall out of getting an offer based on what we learned from references.”
Anand Sanwal Jun 26, 2015 ▶ 9:24 Founder's Friday 001: How to Create Great Company Culture with Anand Sanwal, Founder @ CB Insights

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