Google Labs

“So if you go to the Google lab site, you'll probably see about 30 different things”

“So if you think about the things that are in labs, I would say something like maybe. 80% of them came out of people actually in the labs team. The other 20% came from 20% stuff.”

“Jules is, yeah, partnering with GitHub for the new agent HQ stuff, which we're excited about.”

“Autonomous, you know, means, like, it has its own computer, right? So for Jules, it's, you know, the end. Yeah, exactly. So tons of agents that run, you know, locally or in your workspace with you while you're coding but if you want something that's going to r…”

“So we have the dual CLI we launched a couple of weeks ago, which lets you interact with it. By the time this podcast comes out, we'll be in the integrated with the Gemini CLI.”

“I think one of the things we've seen is the scaffolds get simpler and simpler over time as the models get better. And in some ways, this, the scaffolding is almost a crutch for things the model struggles with. For example, like, you know, really complicated su…”

“We store some data for a session, but it only lasts. We only store it for 30 days. And so after 30 days your session becomes locked. And when the first user starts first started hitting that, they were upset. We're like, there's no way anyone's gonna be using …”

“I don't really Buy this, like, you know, that we're not gonna hire more software engineers story. I think, like, for a few reasons I mean, this is an example that, that often comes up, but is it, like, kind of the elasticity of the demand for software?”

“With Jules, you can upload images now.”

“And then we did bring it before labs actually to trusted tester group. There were maybe like, 500 people externally that we added onto it, and we had pings with them.”

“Funny enough, we actually just launched search live actually out of labs this week. And so you can talk to search in a live AI setting, which is conversational voice, voice on when you're driving, you can just talk all the knowledge I talked about, what you ca…”

“But my hunch is it's largely VO three, because traffic to that To the Google Labs spiked 15% in the month VO three was released, which is really exciting.”

“And what's been really cool is we've enabled a lot of sharing recently in the last couple of weeks. So people are creating notebooks and sharing them either with their friends or their colleagues at work or even in a class. And you're starting to get almost li…”

“We originally thought like, okay, who might like this? Maybe it's designers. Maybe it's PMs. Turns out engineers really like this tool because they can describe maybe a screen if it's like someone trying to start a company and they get like good base level of …”

“Before we did the IO announcement in 23, we'd already done a lot of studies. And one of the first things that I realized was the first thing anybody ever typed was summarize the thing, right? Summarize the document. And it was like half like a test and half ju…”

“We had this idea that you could highlight the text in your source passage, and then you could transform it. And nobody was really using it. And it was like a very complicated piece of our architecture, and it's very hard to continue supporting it in the contex…”

“We didn't actually start out thinking this would live in notebook, right? Like notebook was sort of, we, Built this demo out independently, tried out like a few different sort of sources that the main idea was like go from some sort of sources and transform it…”

“Notebook.ln can handle up to 50 sources, 500,000 words each, like you're not going to be able to jam all of that into like the context window.”

“I think you just have to be really opinionated. I think that sometimes if you are, your intuition is just sharper and you can move a lot faster on the product because it's like, if you hold that bar high, right? Like if you think about like the iterative cycle…”

“I mean, we have like a really, really good like character designer on our team.”

“Humor is contextual also, like super contextual is what we're realizing. So we're not prompting for humor, but we're prompting for maybe a lot of other things that are bringing out that humor.”

“We have some early signal that says it's a really good hook. But people stay for the other features.”

“So in this case, this is based on what they think is the most appropriate thing to say at the end.”

“When we launched it, actually, when we announced Project Tailwind, I think we only had three. We had three engineers, it was myself, we had a designer, we had Steven, and that was it.”

“And so even between the period when we did the first IO last year to as recently as like last month, you know, we've only had about eight engineers or so.”

“In labs in particular, we start with the technology and it's actually a very interesting place to start where you're like, okay, what are the practical applications to this?”

“The truly like the Gemini models are so powerful and we use Gemini 1.5 pro as sort of the base for notebook LM. And then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it.”

“The real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio.”

“We have about 60,000 people in it.”

“In labs, we have the environment to do it. We have the environment to move fast. We have far, far, far fewer processes, maybe even to a fault. Sometimes we'll go to meetings that are literally, you know, the product managers, the engineers, the designers all t…”

“Where I think in the beginning we saw educators, learners really loved the product, and they were a lot of our demographic. It's really now a big mix of, I would say educators and learners are still a big part of it, but really professionals, right? Huge inter…”

“It is now at a point where I have to hire a business development person because I was like, hey, I have to ship products, and I'm actually taking, like, customer calls every day now.”

“I imagined that in the future, You could have an AI editor surface, right? Fully remixable, any input, any output, right? And that, that to me is sort of like a really powerful sort of core nugget where if you imagine you could take anything, whether it's vide…”

“The mobile app to me is such a big gap in terms of the experience today, which I think is like understandable considering where we're at in like the product development cycle. But I think that's the next horizon is, hey, how different is the mobile experience …”