“I think you just have to be really opinionated. I think that sometimes if you are, your intuition is just sharper and you can move a lot faster on the product because it's like, if you hold that bar high, right? Like if you think about like the iterative cycle, it's like, Hey, We could take like six months to ship this thing, to get it to like mid where we were, or we could just like listen to this and be like, yeah, that's not it. Right. And I don't need a rater to tell me that.”
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