Geothermal

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CATALYST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eliahu-Ontiveros: Most hyperscaler clean energy contracts are non-binding
“The type of contracts that have been signed so far are for the most part non-binding subject to milestones.”
Jeremy Eliahu-Ontiveros Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 41:16 Inside the AI power wars
CATALYST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kann: Proven clean baseload power is limited to hydro, nuclear, and geothermal
“The list of clean baseload power generation sources is sadly pretty short, and as far as proven technologies go, sorry, wave power, is really just hydro, nuclear, and geothermal.”
Shayle Kann Mar 5, 2026 ▶ 2:31 Digging deep for super hot geothermal
The oil and gas industry is equipped to scale geothermal energy
“The oil and gas industry is primed. The infrastructure is there. It's already primed to scale geothermal once the industry, again, is ready to scale. We don't have to wait on new skill sets being built”
Cindy Taff Dec 17, 2025 ▶ 27:14 Sage Geosystems' bet on underground energy storage
CATALYST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lubershain: Geothermal deployment will not truly take off until the 2030s
“I think that the inflection is, is going to be much slower and happen over the next five years, and that geothermal will really be positioned to take off more so in the 20 thirties than in the late 20 twenties. That's my bet at the moment.”
Andy Lubershane Oct 23, 2025 ▶ 33:19 Five big questions about the future of energy
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Kann: Energy Secretary Chris Wright is highly bullish on geothermal and nuclear
“Our new administration, our Secretary of Energy in particular, Chris Wright is super bullish on geothermal in general. He likes geothermal and nuclear, and those are the two sort of, like, overlapping clean energy things that, that I think he is full-throatedl…”
Shayle Kann Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 34:30 Calibrating hype with Akshat Rathi
CATALYST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lubershain: Solar will likely stay cheaper on LCOE than subsidized geothermal
“And in those regions, like probably solar is still cheaper on a levelized cost of energy basis than geothermal, even subsidized even when geothermal is subsidized and solar is not for quite some time, but you don't add geothermal because you're competing with,…”
Andy Lubershane Jul 17, 2025 ▶ 30:47 Five big questions emerging from the OBBB
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Hoyland: US geothermal scaled faster than any other renewable in the 1970s-1980s
“Most of the United States growth actually happens in those first one to two decades. And for a while, it looks like geothermal is just going to take off. It's scaling faster than any other renewable at the time. And through the 19 eighties, we had gigawatts of…”
Carl Hoyland May 29, 2025 ▶ 5:15 How geothermal gets built
CATALYST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hoyland: Deploying geothermal in unconventional regions will take decades
“As drilling costs come down, or as demand for clean firm power continues to increase, we see the economic shifting to where you could start to justify new build geothermal using some of these new methods, and even more unconventional locations. We think that t…”
Carl Hoyland May 29, 2025 ▶ 30:05 How geothermal gets built
CATALYST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hoyland: Geothermal will add more firm capacity than clean competitors by 2035
“And so in terms of adding low-cost, firm, renewable energy in the next five to 10 years, we really think there's a chance to add more with geothermal than any other competitive form.”
Carl Hoyland May 29, 2025 ▶ 31:07 How geothermal gets built
GREEN BLUEPRINT Assertion Supported
Pierpoint: Fervo applies horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing to geothermal
“Fervo is bringing two major innovations from the oil and gas industry to geothermal. Horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing.”
Lara Pierpoint May 21, 2025 ▶ 4:29 Building Fervo's geothermal giant
Jewett: Geothermal development requires subsurface data unlike wind and solar
“Geothermal, unlike wind and solar, where you can measure it by observing surface conditions, you have to know about the subsurface resource in order to have high confidence that you can go build a geothermal facility in a place.”
Sarah Jewett May 21, 2025 ▶ 22:28 Building Fervo's geothermal giant
GREEN BLUEPRINT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shah: New nuclear, geothermal, and hybrid storage all cost ~$100/MWh
“And now, with all of the additional incentives, you can build a new nuclear reactor, as long as, you know, get some of the bonus credits, like energy communities, etc., at a hundred dollars a megawatt hour. Guess what else is a hundred dollars a megawatt hour?…”
Jigar Shah Jul 16, 2024 ▶ 36:03 Our final episode: The top stories of 2024 so far
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Kann: Nearly all US geothermal capacity is in Nevada or California
“Basically all of the geothermal that we've built in the United States is in Nevada or California.”
Shayle Kann Jun 27, 2024 ▶ 2:58 Going deep on next-gen geothermal
CATALYST Insight
Horne: Geothermal fractures brittle volcanic rock, unlike pliable sedimentary rock
“Oil and gas are fracturing sedimentary rocks. Which tend to be more pliable, plastic, and geothermal is fracturing volcanic rocks, which are brittle and hard, and it's a somewhat different process, and it's a somewhat different result as a consequence.”
Dr. Roland Horne Jun 27, 2024 ▶ 14:08 Going deep on next-gen geothermal
GREEN BLUEPRINT Assertion Contradicted
Beebe: Zanskar has proven a 90% hit rate for exploratory geothermal wells
“Today, when we do, when we drill wells looking for geothermal, we'll drill 10 wells and get one hot spot. And that's not cost effective. Those wells are very expensive. With Zanskar, they have been proven that they can drill 10 wells and get 90% hit rates, and…”
Andrew Beebe Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 19:35 AI-fueled geothermal and ‘the edge of the possible’
GREEN BLUEPRINT Prediction Not checkable as stated
Beebe: Geothermal can power AI data centers in 3-4 years vs 10 for SMRs
“Building de novo facilities to power either clusters or giga sites for massive data centers, I think is going to be much, much harder, and they're going to try with small modular reactors, that's a ten-year kind of process, but doing it with geothermal, I thin…”
Andrew Beebe Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 20:34 AI-fueled geothermal and ‘the edge of the possible’
CATALYST Opinion
Yeh: Fervo Energy's long-term business model is operating as a geothermal DevCo
“And I kind of think about a lot of these companies that are now coming up, these kind of next great climate tech leaders, like Fervo, which is doing next generation geothermal. I think their future is being a development company for geothermal and producing gi…”
David Yeh Dec 21, 2023 ▶ 45:46 Financing first-of-a-kind climate assets
GREEN BLUEPRINT Assertion Partly supported
Hamilton: Only geothermal and biomass satisfy California's clean firm baseload mandate
“When you don't have that, so what California is facing right now, and they're saying, all right, we're going to get 2000 megawatts of clean, firm baseload, really the only two resources that will fit that are geothermal and biomass, because hydropower in Calif…”
Katherine Hamilton Nov 29, 2023 ▶ 12:37 How to triple renewables by 2030
CATALYST Insight
Roberts: Nuclear power is just one firm clean balancing option
“I just want people to see nuclear, not as some sort of special, unique kind of power, but simply one of the options on the table for balancing longer term Renewable energy. One among others, there are other options. There's geothermal, there's longer term stor…”
David Roberts Nov 3, 2023 ▶ 30:59 The Volts crossover episode
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Contradicted
Geothermal cuts home heating operating costs to one-fifth of fossil fuels
“If you look at, for example, in the Midwest, comparing using a fuel to using geothermal, your operating costs, so how much you have to actually spend to heat your home, it's maybe a fifth with geothermal. It's similar in the Northeast, and emissions-wise is si…”
Kathy Hannun Jun 8, 2023 ▶ 2:50 Tapping the heat beneath your feet with Kathy Hannun of Dandelion Energy
GREEN BLUEPRINT Assertion Supported
O'Brien: Chatham University's Eden Hall is a self-sustaining ecosystem
“It's a completely sustainable campus. It has, you know, lots of solar, has geothermal, they grow their own food, they raise their own fish. It's almost entirely its own little ecosystem.”
Miles O'Brien Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 2:32 Will America’s commercial kitchens go electric?
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Steele: Kenya's power grid produces roughly 90% renewable energy
“Kenya's grid is actually about 75% installed capacity is renewable right now, and about 90% of the energy they produce is renewable. A lot of that is because of the focus on geothermal.”
Kate Steele Oct 27, 2022 ▶ 9:34 Climatetech for developing economies
CATALYST Insight
Beard: Upfront subsurface exploration costs block startup geothermal project financing
“So geothermal has exploration risks, so understanding the resource before you start Developing a project, and you have to understand those well enough to get a project financed, and that is a deal breaker for a lot of projects, particularly for startup compani…”
Jamie Beard Sep 9, 2022 ▶ 9:41 Could geothermal become a major zero-emissions player?
CATALYST Opinion
Beard: Using hydrogen for home heating is a facepalm compared to geothermal
“Every time I read a, an article, for instance, that's talking about you know, how we're sure we're going to heat homes with hydrogen. I literally, I mean, it's a facepalm moment, right? Because geothermal is just so much easier to do than that, right? And so, …”
Jamie Beard Sep 9, 2022 ▶ 26:25 Could geothermal become a major zero-emissions player?
CATALYST Insight
Beard: Scaling geothermal rapidly requires leveraging the entire oil and gas industry
“If we want to go fast, and we want to do this at scale, we're going to have to leverage that entire industry.”
Jamie Beard Sep 9, 2022 ▶ 52:44 Could geothermal become a major zero-emissions player?
CATALYST Opinion
Orbuch: Geothermal energy could become a major power source for direct air capture
“First of all, I think geothermal could be really huge for DAC just as a side note, but that's not, like, to say that that's obviously not a alternate energy use that would go somewhere else, right?”
Ryan Orbuch May 5, 2022 ▶ 39:13 Growing the Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) market

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