Flops

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Sohmers: AI hardware over-indexes on raw FLOPS instead of memory bandwidth
“Everyone else was focusing on the wrong things. They were just trying to have more and more flops when memory bandwidth, memory capacity were the real, real bottlenecks.”
Thomas Sohmers Aug 18, 2025 ▶ 6:26 ⚡️Accelerators @ 3x NVIDIA H200 perf, Made in the USA - Thomas Sohmers + Mitesh Agrawal, Positron AI
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Lazarte: LLM usage measured in FLOPS grew 100x over two years
“LLM usage has grown a hundred x in the last two years. So if you measure like in the number of flops, it went from like one extra flop to a hundred extra flops now. And like, of course, this data is not very precise, but it's directionally correct.”
Victor Lazarte Apr 14, 2025 ▶ 4:46 Benchmark GP, Victor Lazarte: The 3 Traits All the Best Founders Have · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
a16z Opinion
Mensch: FLOP count is the wrong metric for regulating AI models
“Pre-market conditions like flops, the number of flops that you do to create a model is definitely not the right way of doing of measuring the performance of a model.”
Arthur Mensch Dec 28, 2023 ▶ 30:35 Safety in Numbers: Keeping AI Open
FLOP counts do not necessarily correlate with wall-clock runtime
“Flops or floating point operations don't necessarily correlate with runtime. There are other factors like memory reading and writing, parallelism, and so on.”
Tri Dao Aug 3, 2023 ▶ 5:30 FlashAttention-2: Making Transformers 800% faster AND exact
NO PRIORS Opinion
Large AI Model Runs Should Be Registered Like Dual-Use Biological Weapons
“I think that a productive outcome of that regulation is anything above a certain level of flops needs to be registered similar to, well, bio weapons and things that have the potential for dual use.”
Emad Mostaque May 3, 2023 ▶ 38:59 No Priors Ep. 3 | With Stability AI’s Emad Mostaque

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