Exploding Kittens

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HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lee expected $10,000 on Kickstarter while his co-founder predicted $5 million
“And I said, 10,000 dollars. That seems about right. That's how much we'll earn off of it. And Matt immediately said, five million dollars.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 32:11 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
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Exploding Kittens founders split equity equally on a handshake without lawyers
“Instead, we'd said, let's all own a third of this thing, and shake hands, and move forward, and that was it.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 33:16 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Lee: Card games should pit players against each other, not the game
“My whole principle behind the thing was, every card in this game should invite an interaction between you and another player. So, I really wanted this thing to feel like you are playing against players. You're not playing against the game. Everybody is playing…”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 34:05 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Exploding Kittens set its $10,000 Kickstarter goal based on minimum print costs
“If I contact a local card manufacturer, I was like, what's the minimum order? And he said you have to produce a thousand decks of cards. Like, that's the minimum here. I was like, cool, ok, fine. And I was like, well, how much does that cost? And he said, oh, …”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 36:06 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Lee: Exploding Kittens raised over $1M in first 24 hours
“Within the first 24 hours, we passed the one million mark.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 38:47 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Exploding Kittens still holds the Kickstarter record for the most backers
“We're 10 years later, and it is still, holds the record for the most number of backers of any campaign in history.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 43:45 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Exploding Kittens produced 700,000 decks for initial Kickstarter run
“So 219,000 backers made means that because most people wanted more than one deck we had to produce 700,000 decks of cards for our very first print run.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 44:17 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Exploding Kittens spent $1M extra on custom meowing box sound chips
“And I think we ended up spending an extra million dollars just to produce that chip.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 44:58 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Partly supported
Exploding Kittens shipped all Kickstarter orders on schedule with CAH help
“And so the campaign launched in January, we promised it would ship in July, and because of Cards Against Humanity and their help we shipped every single copy by July 30th of that year.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 46:34 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Exploding Kittens generated about $20M in retail sales in its first year
“The first year, like, after Kickstarter, the first year, we pulled in about twenty million in sales just moving through retail.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 48:25 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Exploding Kittens used a furry vending machine costume to outdraw convention competitors
“We built a vending machine costume. And eight hours a day, our little team would sit inside this horribly cramped space, pushing watermelons and cantaloupes and hot burritos out the front of this vending machine to this crowd. And the crowd grew, and they love…”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 51:17 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lee: Exploding Kittens consistently generated $20M annually for ten years
“Every year, like, For the first few years, honestly, for the first, like, 10 years, Exploding Kittens is very consistent at hitting that.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 54:06 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Exploding Kittens costs $1 to $2 to manufacture and retails for $20
“It's to make cards, put them in a box. This comes out to like between one and two dollars based on the product. Right. And we're selling it for 20.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 54:44 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Throw Throw Burrito sold 500,000 units in year one versus 30,000 norm
“And that thing, I think its first year, it sold 500,000 copies. A normal game, its first year, will sell 30,000 copies. Like, this was just off the charts for a game, and every year since then, it's grown, because it keeps spreading.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:03:25 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Partly supported
Lee: The Chernin Group invested $40 million in Exploding Kittens
“And so it took a few months of negotiation, but we finally took an investment from them. They invested forty million in the company, and immediately they got to work at helping us expand, figuring out, like, alright, how do we build a TV show, and how do we bu…”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:06:22 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Lee: Exploding Kittens will only do screen media if tabletop remains core
“The deal I kind of made with myself was as long as the core of this company is always Board games, tabletop games, things that inspire face-to-face interaction. I am okay exploring expansions in these other realms that feel like they are serving additional exp…”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:07:07 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Lee: Exploding Kittens revenue increased 90% in 2020
“And we saw a 90% increase in revenue that year, just in 2020.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:09:22 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
French game publisher Asmodee acquired a 55% stake in Exploding Kittens
“So, they're called Asmodee, and they purchased 55% of Exploding Kittens.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:11:49 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Elan Lee: Co-Founder Shane Small Left Exploding Kittens in 2015
“Shane left in Shane actually left in twenty-fifteen, the very first year.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:12:17 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Exploding Kittens exceeds $100M in annual revenue across over 100 published games
“We're over a hundred at this point. I, you're right, I can't say the exact number, but we have, we've now published more than a hundred games.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:16:06 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Lee: Games account for 90% of Exploding Kittens' revenue
“I would say 90%.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:16:41 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Brick-and-mortar stores represent 60% of Exploding Kittens' total sales
“Brick and mortar is still about 60% of our business.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:16:52 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Exploding Kittens' marketing team has ultimate veto power over any new game
“And the reason that we're doing that is because they have ultimate veto power over anything. So we could think it's the best game in the world, but if the marketing team cannot figure out how they're going to sell that thing, that game dies that moment.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:18:01 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
Lee: Exploding Kittens designs games to make the players entertaining
“We don't make entertaining games. We make games that make the people you're playing with entertaining.”
Elan Lee Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 1:19:28 Exploding Kittens: Elan Lee. How cat-themed Russian Roulette changed game night forever
MY FIRST MILLION Assertion Contradicted
Shaan Puri: Exploding Kittens produces 4 of the top 5 popular games
“Of the top five most popular games in the world, we make number one, two, four, and five.”
Shaan Puri Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 41:46 2 Trends Hidden in Plain Sight (+ $1M ideas)
Elan Lee: Game creation breaks down into product, theme, and sales
“So I think game creation from my perspective is really just three phases. You have to create a fun game. You have to come up with a good theme for that game, and then you have to sell the game. And those three phases, I think are really relevant to whatever yo…”
Elan Lee Jan 31, 2024 ▶ 1:39 Exploding Kitten's Elan Lee explains his AI collaboration | Masters of Scale
Elan Lee: AI compresses game ideation from months to hours
“And it used to take, you know, months or years. And with AI, I've actually been able to shorten that to sometimes just a few hours.”
Elan Lee Jan 31, 2024 ▶ 2:34 Exploding Kitten's Elan Lee explains his AI collaboration | Masters of Scale
Elan Lee: AI suggestions advance brainstorming from square zero to four
“Then to figure out the theme, I take those instructions that I've spent weeks working with an AI to generate, and I feed them right back into the AI and say, become an expert at this game and tell me what it should be called to attract this target audience. An…”
Elan Lee Jan 31, 2024 ▶ 12:04 Exploding Kitten's Elan Lee explains his AI collaboration | Masters of Scale
MASTERS OF SCALE Assertion Supported
Hoffman: Exploding Kittens is translated into 25 languages across 50+ countries
“The game Exploding Kittens has been translated into 25 languages and sold in over 50 countries.”
Reid Hoffman Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 7:27 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
MASTERS OF SCALE Assertion Supported
Exploding Kittens hit Kickstarter goal in seven minutes, $3M in three days
“We hit that goal in seven minutes. By the first day, we had raised a million dollars. By the end of the second day, we had two million, and by the end of the third day, we had three million, and this thing was completely out of control.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 15:05 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
Lee: Exploding Kittens launched without any fulfillment plan as Kickstarter surged
“I'm watching that thing go from 20,000 to 50,000 to a 100,000, and I am losing my mind because every one of those backers, I've got to figure out how to get a game to their front door, and I had no idea how, literally no idea how.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 16:23 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
Lee: Exploding Kittens used creative challenges instead of monetary stretch goals
“Our stretch goals were not based on currency. We said, show us funny stuff. One of the characters in our game is called Taco Cat. We said, show us 20 pictures of a real Taco Cat, and we will add 10 cards to the game.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 17:52 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
Inman: Exploding Kittens turned crowdfunding from transactional into participatory
“I think what it really did was it turned something, an experience that was transactional, buying and receiving a good into something fun that you're involved with. Rather than, give me 20 bucks and I'll send you a card game in a couple months. Instead it was, …”
Matthew Inman Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 19:26 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
MASTERS OF SCALE Assertion Contradicted
Lee: Exploding Kittens sold 700,000 copies in 30 days
“700,000 copies of the game sold in 30 days, and that is truly just unprecedented in the industry.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 21:09 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
McGinnis: Pad deadlines and lie about dates when managing creatives
“What I've learned is pad your deadlines lie to them, and outlining the cost of what it's going to be if we don't execute by this date.”
Carly McGinnis Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 25:06 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
MASTERS OF SCALE Assertion Not publicly verifiable
McGinnis: Exploding Kittens shipments suffered cargo fires and lost shipping containers
“We had a cargo ship just lose containers into the ocean. We had a cargo ship catch on fire.”
Carly McGinnis Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 29:49 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
MASTERS OF SCALE Assertion Partly supported
Lee: Exploding Kittens fulfilled every single Kickstarter backer order on time
“For six months, that's what we had to do to get those things out the door. And we were on time with every single one of those orders.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 30:24 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
Lee: Exploding Kittens designs games that make the players entertaining
“We don't make entertaining games. We make games that make the people you're playing with entertaining.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 32:53 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
Lee: Traditional mirror-room focus group game testing produces useless feedback
“Traditionally, the way that game testing works is you hire a group. They do these blind tests. Everyone sits in a room. There's the one-way mirror. You watch people play the games. It's horrible. And I looked at that trying to figure out like, why are these te…”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 34:26 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale
Lee: Exploding Kittens only ships games that get 100% 'play again' ratings
“When you finished playing our games, there's one question on the whole survey, which is, do you want to play again? That's it. That's all I care about. When a game hits a hundred percent yes, we're gonna ship that game.”
Elan Lee Dec 12, 2023 ▶ 36:28 Find co-creators everywhere (with Exploding Kittens Inc.’s Elan Lee) | Masters of Scale

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