Chinese Labs

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Sean Lie: 95% of High-Quality Open Models Come From Chinese Labs
“The open source model market is a hundred percent Chinese, right? . A hundred percent, but. Almost. Okay. 95%, right? Most of the big models, most of the big open models that are, you know, high quality are coming from the Chinese labs.”
Sean Lie Sep 2, 2026 ▶ 41:22 The Inference Frontier: from 100 to 10,000 tokens per second — Sean Lie, Cerebras CTO
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Moe: Model distillation is not the primary driver of Chinese AI progress
“So I really don't think from currently what we're seeing this is a big cornerstone of what's powering the progress today. In the end, what's powering the progress is still just really smart people with very interesting algorithms, data environment, and they wi…”
Simon Moe Aug 5, 2026 ▶ 44:13 How Open Source Became AI's Backbone | Inferact with a16z
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Friedberg: Chinese AI labs employ US-trained PhDs achieving genuine breakthroughs
“When you go look at the individuals working at these Chinese labs, they got PhDs in American institutions. Half the PhDs went to American labs and half went to Chinese labs. And they have very good scientists doing very good work, and they are having breakthro…”
David Friedberg Jul 30, 2026 ▶ 52:16 Chip Stocks Crash, $20B Fund Margin Called, Frontier Labs: SLOW DOWN AI, Mamdani's Grocery Stores
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Baker: China's Distillation Edge Vanishes if US Labs Halt Open Releases
“They've gotten really, really good at that, but man, all that goes away if people stop releasing these models at the frontier, and I think mythos is a side of things to come there.”
Gavin Baker Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 24:48 Gavin Baker: SpaceX Might Be the Greatest Company of All Time
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Hays: Chinese labs have insiders at all major American AI labs
“Well, one thing, but I'm sure Chinese labs Have people inside at all the major American labs, and so anything that is being discovered at the American labs is being ported back.”
Jordi Hays Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 1:28:40 DeepSeek Update, Market Crash, Timeline in Turmoil, Is VC Cooked, Zero Cope Policy

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