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Chinese labs

2 statements across 2 episodes · 0 bullish · 2 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Jan 28, 2025 by Jordi Hays · across every show →

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Jan 28, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hays: Chinese labs have insiders at all major American AI labs
“Well, one thing, but I'm sure Chinese labs Have people inside at all the major American labs, and so anything that is being discovered at the American labs is being ported back.”
Jordi Hays Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 1:28:40 DeepSeek Update, Market Crash, Timeline in Turmoil, Is VC Cooked, Zero Cope Policy
Jun 15, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Baker: China's Distillation Edge Vanishes if US Labs Halt Open Releases
“They've gotten really, really good at that, but man, all that goes away if people stop releasing these models at the frontier, and I think mythos is a side of things to come there.”
Gavin Baker Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 24:48 Gavin Baker: SpaceX Might Be the Greatest Company of All Time
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