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Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where Android comes up
The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 1:13:55 Steve Ballmer They went Android.
- ▶ 1:14:23 Steve Ballmer And maybe it, it would be an Android phone at this stage.
- ▶ 1:38:41 David Rosenthal Android's a great example.
- ▶ 1:38:42 David Rosenthal Google bought Android, but they, but that's a trick for them.
- ▶ 1:38:45 Steve Ballmer Well, Android's not a trick.
- ▶ 1:38:49 Steve Ballmer Android is a piece of the search trick.
- ▶ 2:10:26 Steve Ballmer We weren't gonna be able to play the search game, the Android slash search game, because we just didn't have the power of monetization that they did.
Indian Premier League Cricket (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:58:16 David Rosenthal Yeah, and there's already cheap Android everywhere.
Rolex (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 4:39:44 David Rosenthal You know how, uh, car manufacturers, except for Tesla, have CarPlay and Android Auto?
TSMC · Acquired
- ▶ 1:04:55 David Rosenthal Chips that are using all mobile devices, iPhones and Android, all of which are ARM, and lots of servers that are ARM.
- ▶ 1:33:21 David Rosenthal But of course, an Android comes out in 2008.
- ▶ 1:35:05 Ben Gilbert We're starting to see a ton of different OEMs making Android phones.
IKEA (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:12:33 David Rosenthal This company is Apple if they decided to also be Android, essentially.
Meta (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:31:48 David Rosenthal Either captively controlled hardware like Apple, or open hardware like Android and Microsoft.
- ▶ 2:40:18 Ben Gilbert Android was a Blackberry clone at the time, not an iPhone clone.
- ▶ 3:19:40 David Rosenthal One, and I think this is kind of like the uber problem that everything else is downstream of, iOS and Android are closed proprietary ecosystems not controlled by Facebook.
- ▶ 3:19:53 David Rosenthal Yeah, you can argue Android is open source and all that, but for all intents and purposes, Google controls it and they control the Play Store.
- ▶ 3:20:46 David Rosenthal But, okay, specifically, why is iOS and Android being closed proprietary ecosystems such a problem?
- ▶ 4:02:36 Ben Gilbert And I think they had to, like, have an app in market where users were actually using it to realize, oh, man, the state of the art in native that the platform vendors have developed, iOS and Android, is really, really good, and they have…
- ▶ 5:43:48 David Rosenthal Yeah, it's open source like Android is open source.
Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:45:35 Mark Zuckerberg Let's build this platform where we can get a web-based platform, so you basically build a native shell, and you build this web-based platform in it, and we'll be able to just update our apps every day, and we'll ship one thing once, and…
- ▶ 2:17:25 Mark Zuckerberg And the thing that I think there's just a ton of recency bias around is because iPhone basically won, you know, I know that there are more Android phones out there, but I mean, but iPhone is sort of like the intellectual leader and by far…
The Mark Zuckerberg Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 37:34 Mark Zuckerberg Let's build this platform where we can get a web-based platform, so you basically build a native shell, and you build this web-based platform in it, and we'll be able to just update our apps every day, and we'll ship one thing once, and…
- ▶ 1:09:38 Mark Zuckerberg And the thing that I think there's just a ton of recency bias around is because iPhone basically won, you know, I know that there are more Android phones out there, but I mean, but iPhone is sort of like the intellectual leader and by far…
Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:08:34 Ben Gilbert And that was Andy Rubin before he started Android.
- ▶ 3:08:48 David Rosenthal Andy had already left Danger and started Android.
- ▶ 3:13:17 Ben Gilbert Google has acquired Android.
- ▶ 3:13:19 Ben Gilbert Google has transformed Android from a Blackberry clone into an iPhone clone.
- ▶ 3:16:39 David Rosenthal Microsoft's competitor was not Apple and the iPhone, it was Android.
- ▶ 3:20:41 Ben Gilbert Steve Ballmer realized pretty early, I think because of the Google Android thing, mobile was gonna shake out differently.
- ▶ 3:33:59 Ben Gilbert Lost to Android.
- ▶ 4:00:26 David Rosenthal In 2011, after Microsoft had released this Windows phone, which, like we said, was really kind of doomed to fail against Android, like you just couldn't compete with free.
- ▶ 4:00:39 David Rosenthal I think Bill Gurley had a blog post about Android back in the day about the less than free business model and why you can't compete with it.
- ▶ 4:01:06 Ben Gilbert So I think less than free is actually the correct way to frame Android.
- ▶ 4:01:35 Ben Gilbert That wasn't going well, and so they were kind of left without a platform, and so they either needed to pick Windows Phone or Android as their platform of the future, despite being what used to be the dominant phone maker for all cell…
- ▶ 4:02:19 David Rosenthal Like you said, Ben, it didn't have a lot of options, and it wasn't willing yet to go Android.
- ▶ 4:02:25 David Rosenthal Pretty quickly, though, as we get into 2012, 20 13, it's clear Windows Phone ain't really working, and Android is the future.
- ▶ 4:02:47 David Rosenthal We're gonna go Android, unless you make it worth our while, or, you know, something happens here and changes.
Hermès (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:57:31 David Rosenthal This is Android and iOS.
Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:01:41 David Rosenthal Versus Android.
- ▶ 2:01:49 David Rosenthal Android also has thousands and thousands of developers working on it across a widespread ecosystem.
- ▶ 2:02:00 David Rosenthal At Android, it's not, and like, as a user, maybe you'll get the latest operating system update, maybe you won't.
- ▶ 2:02:08 Ben Gilbert I think this is exactly the right framing here, that NVIDIA is the Apple of AI, and PyTorch is sort of Android, because it's open source, and it's got a bunch of different companies that care about it.
- ▶ 2:02:18 Ben Gilbert OpenCL is the Android as it pertains to graphics, but it's pretty bad and pretty far behind.
- ▶ 2:02:51 David Rosenthal iOS versus Android, because Nvidia has had first dozens and then hundreds and now thousands of engineers working on CUDA for 16 years.
- ▶ 2:03:01 David Rosenthal Meanwhile, the Android equivalent out there in the open source ecosystem has only just been getting going.
- ▶ 2:03:08 David Rosenthal You know, if you think about the delta of the timeline between iOS and Android, it was a year and a half, two years.
- ▶ 2:03:26 David Rosenthal Is there an Android equivalent?
Benchmark’s Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins on The Art of Business in Gaming · Acquired
- ▶ 44:35 David Rosenthal It's like the dynamic of iPhone versus Android, but like a whole nother level.
Qualcomm · Acquired
- ▶ 1:43:48 Ben Gilbert They, they sell the high-end Android chip today.
- ▶ 1:43:55 Ben Gilbert And if you're buying a high-end Android phone, it's a Qualcomm, whatever, I don't know all the model numbers, but series eight gen one or something is the Snapdragon.
- ▶ 2:02:14 Ben Gilbert They already make Snapdragons for the high-end Android phones, and soon they'll be able to make a competitor to Apple's M series chips for laptops and desktops and maybe even servers.
- ▶ 2:04:57 David Rosenthal Technology, the technology industry at large to have, just like with Android, you had a, um, you know, iPhone rivaling operating system available off the shelf for any kind of application that let a million flowers bloom.
- ▶ 2:14:00 Ben Gilbert Android phones are using MediaTek, and so Qualcomm kind of needed to buy Nuvia in order to differentiate the CPU and not just be using the stock ARM design that MediaTek and everyone else is using on much cheaper chips.
Amazon Web Services · Acquired
- ▶ 2:17:02 Ben Gilbert but then you don't need to write an Android app too.
Arena Show Part I: Idea Dinner + YC Continuity · Acquired
- ▶ 17:06 Packy McCormick Like, Twitter needs to be the Apple of social media.
Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
- ▶ 33:58 David Rosenthal Android's gonna win.
- ▶ 36:25 David Rosenthal Plus all of the other stuff you would need for a system on a chip to power Android headsets.
- ▶ 39:25 David Rosenthal We didn't talk about this as much in the Sony episode, but my impression of the whole Android
- ▶ 39:52 David Rosenthal Like, if you are making everything from chips all the way up through hardware in the Android ecosystem, I don't think you're making it.
- ▶ 1:36:04 David Rosenthal Oh, it's like, um, what are the Android phones that Google makes?
- ▶ 1:38:59 David Rosenthal Like the Android market.
- ▶ 1:47:36 Ben Gilbert So it's kind of the Android strategy, but run in the data center.
Platforms and Power (with Hamilton Helmer and Chenyi Shi) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:00:23 Ben Gilbert Well, people kind of only switch in the direction from Android to iPhone.
The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
- ▶ 35:51 Brendan Eich And they did a credible job on making it a good mobile browser as mobile came up through Android.
- ▶ 35:57 Brendan Eich Android kind of double started at that G one.
- ▶ 36:01 Brendan Eich It was the first Android device.
- ▶ 36:08 Brendan Eich But Android took a while to get anywhere near decent, and I still can't use it, even though I've got many complaints about Apple.
- ▶ 52:31 Brendan Eich You're the, you're the least power hungry browser on Android.
- ▶ 1:28:58 Brendan Eich Pre-installs aren't really happening outside of the apps from the OS superpower like Android, Google, or iOS, Apple.
Taylor Swift (Acquired’s Version) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:14:12 David Rosenthal Voice memos, if it's an Apple phone or some equivalent on Android, probably can get access to a piano, and yet you cannot write like Taylor Swift.
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