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Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 18:30 David Rosenthal This is the era of all the great, great products coming out of Google that we've talked about, you know, Maps and Gmail and Docs and all the wonderful things that Chrome and Android are going to come later.
- ▶ 3:40:46 David Rosenthal Everything that we talked about in part two, the alphabet episode, all of the other products within Google, Gmail, Maps, Docs, Chrome, Android,
Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 0:12 David Rosenthal Well, I thought because of the, you know, war between Android and...
- ▶ 54:31 David Rosenthal So, as we were researching Google's expansion here from Just Search into being a real platform company here in the 2000 with Gmail, Chrome, Android, Workspace, everything we're gonna get to later in the episode, the complexity just…
- ▶ 2:11:58 David Rosenthal Google's Android that we're going to talk about in a sec is becoming huge.
- ▶ 2:26:59 David Rosenthal Android.
- ▶ 2:29:28 David Rosenthal Hiroshi led Android and Chrome at Google for many, many years and would be the authority on this.
- ▶ 2:30:20 David Rosenthal Microsoft does end up acquiring the company, but not until 2008, which is the same year that Android launches.
- ▶ 2:30:29 David Rosenthal In 2003, and started a new company, Android.
- ▶ 2:30:41 David Rosenthal Yes, in its earliest, earliest days, the first version of Android, the company,
- ▶ 2:31:34 David Rosenthal So, Andy pivots the company and has the delivery vector shift from cameras to smartphones.
- ▶ 2:33:41 David Rosenthal Enter Andy and Android.
- ▶ 2:34:52 David Rosenthal Andy's now two years into the company with Android.
- ▶ 2:35:27 David Rosenthal So July, 2005, Google buys Android for fifty million dollars, five, zero million dollars per Android.
- ▶ 2:36:10 David Rosenthal Why did they buy Android right away?
- ▶ 2:37:45 David Rosenthal Buying Android kickstarts things, and like,
- ▶ 2:38:35 David Rosenthal So, now, back to Android and why Android was especially so attractive.
- ▶ 2:38:43 David Rosenthal It's just that as Android the startup, OEMs and carriers are like, giving it to me for free, like, that makes you less attractive to me.
- ▶ 2:39:06 David Rosenthal They start work on Android as part of Google here in summer of 2005.
- ▶ 2:39:12 David Rosenthal And the plan initially is that they're going to be two versions of Android.
- ▶ 2:40:13 David Rosenthal Nobody knows about Android.
- ▶ 2:40:21 David Rosenthal Now, I believe Eric had disclosed to Steve about the Sooner project, because obviously it was public that Google had acquired Android, and I believe that Steve Jobs knew that Google was working on, like, a Blackberry-style phone, but he…
- ▶ 2:43:25 David Rosenthal The Android team, of course, is watching this.
- ▶ 2:43:59 David Rosenthal Once Steve Jobs finds out about what the Android team and Google is now doing, he goes ballistic.
- ▶ 2:46:22 David Rosenthal And so, as a result, Android for several years doesn't have things like pinch to zoom or the sort of swipe operating system UI navigation gestures, and I'm pretty sure if you remember early Android phones for the first couple years, every…
- ▶ 2:47:30 David Rosenthal Remember, Android launches in 2008.
- ▶ 2:48:00 David Rosenthal And then in September of 2008, a lot of things happened in September of 2008, Chrome, Android, Lehman Brothers, Google announces the T-Mobile G one phone, the G phone.
- ▶ 2:52:45 David Rosenthal That is when Android won the market.
- ▶ 2:53:18 David Rosenthal Do you know about Google and Android?
- ▶ 2:54:03 David Rosenthal We're gonna go all in on Android.
- ▶ 2:54:42 David Rosenthal It was the first Android device launched with Google Maps turn-by-turn navigation.
- ▶ 2:58:04 David Rosenthal The bigger thing, though, is that, like, Verizon going all in behind it, even though they would add the iPhone later, it creates sort of this seed of what the Android user base would become today, at least in America, because Verizon went…
- ▶ 2:59:54 David Rosenthal So this was not widely publicized at the time, as you can imagine, but, uh, Bill Gurley wrote a blog post where he had heard from friends that Google was paying carriers and OEMs to use Android, even though Android was free, and he wrote…
- ▶ 3:02:45 David Rosenthal I mean, all of these Android phones that are shipping, especially in the earlier years, what is the most prominent part of the UI on the touchscreen?
- ▶ 3:04:01 David Rosenthal Android, basically from end of 2009 onward, just washes over the world like a tidal wave.
- ▶ 3:04:10 David Rosenthal In holiday, 2009, when the droid comes out, total Android market share of the smartphone market is still in the, you know, the G one range, like five, six percent global market share.
- ▶ 3:04:30 David Rosenthal They announced that over 200,000 Android devices are shipping every day around the world.
- ▶ 3:04:37 David Rosenthal The next year, in 2011, Android's market share is 50%, and two years after that, by the end of 2013, it is 80% market share.
- ▶ 3:05:58 David Rosenthal As I said, by 20 13, Android global market share is 80%.
- ▶ 3:06:16 David Rosenthal No question, Android pushed iPhone to be better on many dimensions.
- ▶ 3:06:23 David Rosenthal Things like cheaper iPhones, bigger screens, better cameras, I mean, on and on and on and on of things that I don't think Apple would have done if Android hadn't been pushing them.
- ▶ 3:06:59 David Rosenthal So then the other quick thing to mention on Android history, there was one interesting moment and tension with Samsung in the early to mid-twenty-tens.
- ▶ 3:07:13 David Rosenthal Android is this incredibly flexible platform.
- ▶ 3:07:16 David Rosenthal What if we just take Android and copy the iPhone with Android?
- ▶ 3:13:27 David Rosenthal They hadn't bought Android when they had, like, that window was closing fast.
- ▶ 3:14:07 David Rosenthal Over three billion active Android phones.
- ▶ 3:17:03 David Rosenthal It was so interesting doing the research for this episode because so many of the people we talked to, even people who were leaders of a lot of these products, because Google was so decentralized and so siloed, they were focused on their…
- ▶ 3:23:20 David Rosenthal Like we said earlier, he had been leading Google's developer efforts in the pre-Android days.
- ▶ 3:29:13 David Rosenthal I was like, oh, well, Android's pretty good.
- ▶ 3:37:01 David Rosenthal And with Chrome and with Android, like the core great products, two of these core great products.
- ▶ 3:54:56 David Rosenthal I just wanna underscore again, we said this in the Android chapter, but like, Android was the mother of all wins.
- ▶ 3:55:45 David Rosenthal And then my quintessence is, it is wild that this one company has eight products with over a billion users and started this era with just one search that didn't even have a billion users yet, but search, Android, Chrome, YouTube, Gmail,…
- ▶ 4:00:37 David Rosenthal And Android did the same thing with Linux.
The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 1:38:41 David Rosenthal Android's a great example.
- ▶ 1:38:42 David Rosenthal Google bought Android, but they, but that's a trick for them.
Indian Premier League Cricket (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:58:16 David Rosenthal Yeah, and there's already cheap Android everywhere.
Rolex (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 4:39:44 David Rosenthal You know how, uh, car manufacturers, except for Tesla, have CarPlay and Android Auto?
TSMC · Acquired
- ▶ 1:04:55 David Rosenthal Chips that are using all mobile devices, iPhones and Android, all of which are ARM, and lots of servers that are ARM.
- ▶ 1:33:21 David Rosenthal But of course, an Android comes out in 2008.
IKEA (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:12:33 David Rosenthal This company is Apple if they decided to also be Android, essentially.
Meta (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:31:48 David Rosenthal Either captively controlled hardware like Apple, or open hardware like Android and Microsoft.
- ▶ 3:19:40 David Rosenthal One, and I think this is kind of like the uber problem that everything else is downstream of, iOS and Android are closed proprietary ecosystems not controlled by Facebook.
- ▶ 3:19:53 David Rosenthal Yeah, you can argue Android is open source and all that, but for all intents and purposes, Google controls it and they control the Play Store.
- ▶ 3:20:46 David Rosenthal But, okay, specifically, why is iOS and Android being closed proprietary ecosystems such a problem?
- ▶ 5:43:48 David Rosenthal Yeah, it's open source like Android is open source.
Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:08:48 David Rosenthal Andy had already left Danger and started Android.
- ▶ 3:16:39 David Rosenthal Microsoft's competitor was not Apple and the iPhone, it was Android.
- ▶ 4:00:26 David Rosenthal In 2011, after Microsoft had released this Windows phone, which, like we said, was really kind of doomed to fail against Android, like you just couldn't compete with free.
- ▶ 4:00:39 David Rosenthal I think Bill Gurley had a blog post about Android back in the day about the less than free business model and why you can't compete with it.
- ▶ 4:02:19 David Rosenthal Like you said, Ben, it didn't have a lot of options, and it wasn't willing yet to go Android.
- ▶ 4:02:25 David Rosenthal Pretty quickly, though, as we get into 2012, 20 13, it's clear Windows Phone ain't really working, and Android is the future.
- ▶ 4:02:47 David Rosenthal We're gonna go Android, unless you make it worth our while, or, you know, something happens here and changes.
Hermès (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:57:31 David Rosenthal This is Android and iOS.
Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:01:41 David Rosenthal Versus Android.
- ▶ 2:01:49 David Rosenthal Android also has thousands and thousands of developers working on it across a widespread ecosystem.
- ▶ 2:02:00 David Rosenthal At Android, it's not, and like, as a user, maybe you'll get the latest operating system update, maybe you won't.
- ▶ 2:02:51 David Rosenthal iOS versus Android, because Nvidia has had first dozens and then hundreds and now thousands of engineers working on CUDA for 16 years.
- ▶ 2:03:01 David Rosenthal Meanwhile, the Android equivalent out there in the open source ecosystem has only just been getting going.
- ▶ 2:03:08 David Rosenthal You know, if you think about the delta of the timeline between iOS and Android, it was a year and a half, two years.
- ▶ 2:03:26 David Rosenthal Is there an Android equivalent?
Benchmark’s Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins on The Art of Business in Gaming · Acquired
- ▶ 44:35 David Rosenthal It's like the dynamic of iPhone versus Android, but like a whole nother level.
Qualcomm · Acquired
- ▶ 2:04:57 David Rosenthal Technology, the technology industry at large to have, just like with Android, you had a, um, you know, iPhone rivaling operating system available off the shelf for any kind of application that let a million flowers bloom.
Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
- ▶ 33:58 David Rosenthal Android's gonna win.
- ▶ 36:25 David Rosenthal Plus all of the other stuff you would need for a system on a chip to power Android headsets.
- ▶ 39:25 David Rosenthal We didn't talk about this as much in the Sony episode, but my impression of the whole Android
- ▶ 39:52 David Rosenthal Like, if you are making everything from chips all the way up through hardware in the Android ecosystem, I don't think you're making it.
- ▶ 1:36:04 David Rosenthal Oh, it's like, um, what are the Android phones that Google makes?
- ▶ 1:38:59 David Rosenthal Like the Android market.
Taylor Swift (Acquired’s Version) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:14:12 David Rosenthal Voice memos, if it's an Apple phone or some equivalent on Android, probably can get access to a piano, and yet you cannot write like Taylor Swift.