Android, every mention
27 scenes (2024), the whole family · ← back to Android
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Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where Android comes up
IKEA (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:12:33 David Rosenthal This company is Apple if they decided to also be Android, essentially.
Meta (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:31:48 David Rosenthal Either captively controlled hardware like Apple, or open hardware like Android and Microsoft.
- ▶ 2:40:18 Ben Gilbert Android was a Blackberry clone at the time, not an iPhone clone.
- ▶ 3:19:40 David Rosenthal One, and I think this is kind of like the uber problem that everything else is downstream of, iOS and Android are closed proprietary ecosystems not controlled by Facebook.
- ▶ 3:19:53 David Rosenthal Yeah, you can argue Android is open source and all that, but for all intents and purposes, Google controls it and they control the Play Store.
- ▶ 3:20:46 David Rosenthal But, okay, specifically, why is iOS and Android being closed proprietary ecosystems such a problem?
- ▶ 4:02:36 Ben Gilbert And I think they had to, like, have an app in market where users were actually using it to realize, oh, man, the state of the art in native that the platform vendors have developed, iOS and Android, is really, really good, and they have…
- ▶ 5:43:48 David Rosenthal Yeah, it's open source like Android is open source.
Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:45:35 Mark Zuckerberg Let's build this platform where we can get a web-based platform, so you basically build a native shell, and you build this web-based platform in it, and we'll be able to just update our apps every day, and we'll ship one thing once, and…
- ▶ 2:17:25 Mark Zuckerberg And the thing that I think there's just a ton of recency bias around is because iPhone basically won, you know, I know that there are more Android phones out there, but I mean, but iPhone is sort of like the intellectual leader and by far…
The Mark Zuckerberg Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 37:34 Mark Zuckerberg Let's build this platform where we can get a web-based platform, so you basically build a native shell, and you build this web-based platform in it, and we'll be able to just update our apps every day, and we'll ship one thing once, and…
- ▶ 1:09:38 Mark Zuckerberg And the thing that I think there's just a ton of recency bias around is because iPhone basically won, you know, I know that there are more Android phones out there, but I mean, but iPhone is sort of like the intellectual leader and by far…
Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:08:34 Ben Gilbert And that was Andy Rubin before he started Android.
- ▶ 3:08:48 David Rosenthal Andy had already left Danger and started Android.
- ▶ 3:13:17 Ben Gilbert Google has acquired Android.
- ▶ 3:13:19 Ben Gilbert Google has transformed Android from a Blackberry clone into an iPhone clone.
- ▶ 3:16:39 David Rosenthal Microsoft's competitor was not Apple and the iPhone, it was Android.
- ▶ 3:20:41 Ben Gilbert Steve Ballmer realized pretty early, I think because of the Google Android thing, mobile was gonna shake out differently.
- ▶ 3:33:59 Ben Gilbert Lost to Android.
- ▶ 4:00:26 David Rosenthal In 2011, after Microsoft had released this Windows phone, which, like we said, was really kind of doomed to fail against Android, like you just couldn't compete with free.
- ▶ 4:00:39 David Rosenthal I think Bill Gurley had a blog post about Android back in the day about the less than free business model and why you can't compete with it.
- ▶ 4:01:06 Ben Gilbert So I think less than free is actually the correct way to frame Android.
- ▶ 4:01:35 Ben Gilbert That wasn't going well, and so they were kind of left without a platform, and so they either needed to pick Windows Phone or Android as their platform of the future, despite being what used to be the dominant phone maker for all cell…
- ▶ 4:02:19 David Rosenthal Like you said, Ben, it didn't have a lot of options, and it wasn't willing yet to go Android.
- ▶ 4:02:25 David Rosenthal Pretty quickly, though, as we get into 2012, 20 13, it's clear Windows Phone ain't really working, and Android is the future.
- ▶ 4:02:47 David Rosenthal We're gonna go Android, unless you make it worth our while, or, you know, something happens here and changes.
Hermès (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 3:57:31 David Rosenthal This is Android and iOS.