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Insight
Alex Schultz: Tech employees naturally build products for power users
“The general company, in my experience, every company, whether you talk Amazon, whether you talk Google, whether you talk Meta, whether you talk Airbnb, they, as employees, tend to be power users of the product, and they, by nature, optimize for people like the…”
Alex Schultz Sep 5, 2025 ▶ 8:49 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader
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Maples: Floodgate passed on early-stage investments in Airbnb and Datadog
“Our biggest failures have been failures of imagination. You know, it's like when I passed on Airbnb, or you know, what, what's another one we passed on, we would have done really well. Data dog.”
Mike Maples Jan 6, 2025 ▶ 37:42 Mike Maples: Three Frameworks to Evaluate Startups and Founders | E1242 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Hoffman: Greylock invested in Airbnb's Series A at a $60M post-money valuation
“Well when I did the Series A of Airbnb. Sixty million. Post.”
Reid Hoffman Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 51:28 Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn & Paypal Founder: Trump Administration, Elon Musk and DOGE | E1239 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Partly supported
Saarinen: Airbnb and Coinbase had no sales teams during his tenure
“Airbnb and Coinbase, they weren't very like go to market driven companies. They're not sales cult. Like you didn't have sales people in the company”
Karri Saarinen Oct 30, 2024 ▶ 7:21 Karri Saarinen: How to Grow Capital Efficiently in a World of BS Growth | E1221 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Carter: Interview Assignments Should Take Under Two Hours on Ubiquitous Companies
“What I found works best is pick an assignment that truly shouldn't take more than an hour or two before you hit diminishing returns. On, you know, spending more cycles on it. And that number two is either more of like a hypothetical scenario or it's a company …”
Phil Carter Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 12:10 Phil Carter: Growth Loops, CAC + LTV Benchmarks, Pricing, Discounts, Paywalls... | E1204 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hartz: Airbnb is distributed storage for people, mirroring enterprise cloud architecture
“I like to think about Airbnb as kind of distributed storage, but not for bits, or images, or sound, or video. It's distributed storage for people. You know, you can have a EMC big drive like on-prem in your enterprise, Or you can have things distributed, and i…”
Kevin Hartz Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 17:39 Kevin Hartz: "How I Lost Airbnb at Seed Because of an Exploding Term Sheet" | E1180 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Hartz names Airbnb, Pinterest, and Bitcoin as his top investment drivers
“Airbnb, Pinterest Bitcoin.”
Kevin Hartz Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 41:19 Kevin Hartz: "How I Lost Airbnb at Seed Because of an Exploding Term Sheet" | E1180 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
All Hyper-Growth Startups Are Chaotic Hot Messes
“Having done this at PayPal, having done this at LinkedIn, having done this at Airbnb, having done, like all of this stuff, it's always a chaotic hot mess.”
Reid Hoffman Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 36:21 Reid Hoffman: The Future of TikTok and The Inflection AI Deal | E1163 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zaparde: Brian Chesky's Pixel-Level Micromanagement Set Airbnb's Product Quality Bar
“Brian Chesky you know, CEO of Airbnb, just how the level of attention to detail when it comes to the Airbnb product I mean, I, you know, you remember, remember design reviews where to his credit, he would be able to detect that, you know, some of the spacing i…”
Rujul Zaparde Apr 24, 2024 ▶ 40:19 Rujul Zaparde: Why Hiring Inexperienced People is Better | E1144 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Lerner: Airbnb turned trust and safety into an offensive growth driver
“Airbnb is a good example, actually, where trust and safety becomes offense because like a core barrier for Airbnb is this idea that like, I mean, somebody else's home, right? Like that's a core barrier to value delivery for your product. And so that's a place …”
Ely Lerner Oct 25, 2023 ▶ 41:24 Ely Lerner: Should Startups Hire Advisors & How much should they be paid? | E1075 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Singerman: Founders Fund clearly saw Airbnb's huge network effect early on
“We definitely saw at the time that the network effect on Airbnb was, at the time, was huge, and yeah, the market was it was clear that they could penetrate into the travel market, or even the lodging market, which I guarantee you, Harry, is huge.”
Brian Singerman Oct 31, 2022 ▶ 15:02 Brian Singerman: How I Became a Partner at Founders Fund, Why We Put $400M into Anduril | 20VC #943 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Kanovich: Requests from Airbnb and Uber drove dLocal's expansion into payouts
“Airbnb came to us and Uber came to us and say, we want to do the opposite flow. We want to do payouts. Great. That's our product strategy. We are now going to do payouts.”
Sebastian Kanovich Sep 16, 2022 ▶ 9:31 dLocal CEO Sebastian Kanovich: The $8BN Company You Might Not Know | 20VC #926 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Rabois: Airbnb is likely his single best-returning investment
“I've never actually exactly tracked it, but probably Airbnb.”
Keith Rabois May 30, 2022 ▶ 38:18 Keith Rabois: The End of Woke Capitalism; Time Allocation Tips; Silicon Valley vs Miami | 20VC #891 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Senkut: Passed on Airbnb at a $2.5M valuation cap in 2008
“I still have an email from 2008 from Brian Chesky. I didn't. We really like you. You sure you don't want to invest at like 2.5 million dollar cap, right? Like I just overthought the risk.”
Aydin Senkut May 27, 2022 ▶ 33:26 Aydin Senkut: How I Scaled from a $4M Angel Fund to $900M AUM | 20VC #890 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Thomas Tull passed on early Uber and Airbnb investments
“I had an opportunity to invest in Uber and Airbnb early. And to be honest, I completely missed the shared economy. I just thought, that's strange. You know, you would go and rent someone's room or you would, and obviously completely blew that and didn't have a…”
Thomas Tull Apr 4, 2022 ▶ 33:07 20VC: Founding Legendary Entertainment and Creating Batman, The Hangover and 300, The Importance of Luck vs Skill in Success, How Relationships to Money Change & Why Velocity is the Most Important Factor in Company Building Success with Thomas Tull
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Partovi passed on early Airbnb pitch, later invested at higher valuation
“I didn't invest in Airbnb the first time I met Brian. Brian was hustling because Airbnb was, this was pretty early on. I was at lunch with somebody else. I was having lunch with a Wall Street Journal reporter, Rob Guth, and Brian was at the table next to us. A…”
Ali Partovi Jan 21, 2022 ▶ 26:12 20VC: How I Lost a $125M Deal with Yahoo by Being Too Honest, The M&A Meeting with Steve Jobs That Did Not Go Well and How U2's Bono Saved The Day For One Tech Startup with Ali Partovi, CEO @ Neo
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Greylock took a 6% to 7% initial ownership stake in Airbnb
“When I did the investment in Airbnb, you know, I was, I think it was like six or seven percent ownership,”
Reid Hoffman Dec 7, 2020 ▶ 35:50 20VC: Reid Hoffman on Investing in Airbnb and Passing on Stripe, The Different Styles of Truly Great Leaders, How To Think Through Ownership and Price in Venture & How To Ensure Venture Partnerships Always Have Trust and a Learning Mindset
Insight
Every mega consumer internet giant defines its own unique pattern
“Each of the consumer internet giants at size is its own unique pattern, right? You don't go, I'm going to build another big consumer internet business, and it's going to be like Airbnb. It's like, no, Airbnb is the pattern like itself.”
Reid Hoffman Dec 7, 2020 ▶ 26:31 20VC: Reid Hoffman on Investing in Airbnb and Passing on Stripe, The Different Styles of Truly Great Leaders, How To Think Through Ownership and Price in Venture & How To Ensure Venture Partnerships Always Have Trust and a Learning Mindset
Insight
Tech founders must view society as a customer, not just individuals
“That I would love to add to the culture, and some people haven't, like, for example, the Airbnb founders, you know, all of Brian, Nate, and Joe, is not only to think about the success of your individual products, and the success of your business, which both ca…”
Reid Hoffman Dec 7, 2020 ▶ 38:32 20VC: Reid Hoffman on Investing in Airbnb and Passing on Stripe, The Different Styles of Truly Great Leaders, How To Think Through Ownership and Price in Venture & How To Ensure Venture Partnerships Always Have Trust and a Learning Mindset
Disclosure
TPG backed Airbnb in 2014 at a $10B valuation
“We then followed that in 2014 with an investment into Airbnb when it was at a ten billion dollar valuation.”
Derek Zanutto Nov 9, 2020 ▶ 5:58 20VC: Lessons from Investing in Uber and Airbnb, How To Think Through Bundling vs Unbundling, Late Stage Funds Moving Earlier, Early Stage Funds Moving Later& The Mechanics of Venture That Founders Should Know with Derek Zanutto, General Partner @ Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kutcher lived exclusively in Airbnbs for six months after investing
“Like when I invested in Airbnb, I went and lived in Airbnbs for six months.”
Ashton Kutcher Feb 17, 2020 ▶ 18:36 20VC: Ashton Kutcher on Early Lessons From Investing in Airbnb and Spotify, Why VC Ownership Requirements Are Becoming More and More Egregious & What Being Good At Product Truly Means
Insight
Shah: Tech operational experience replaced university degrees as founder talent signals
“The pedigree of what people look for as a signal of talent now has shifted where if you are, you know, it doesn't even matter where you went to high school or college. If you were working for five years on the infrastructure team at Stripe in the early days, o…”
Semil Shah Sep 16, 2019 ▶ 7:02 20VC: Haystack's Semil Shah on Whether Founders Are Bypassing Seed Funds in Favour Of Less Dilutive Multi-Stage Funds, How Fund Strategy Changes With Fund Scaling & Why The Hardest Challenge is Price Discipline
Assertion Supported
Airbnb, Uber, and Amazon all launched in seemingly small niche markets
“All of those companies look small in the beginning, you know, Airbnb, Dropbox, Pinterest, like the lists, you know, even Uber in the beginning, they all looked like they were going after something small in the beginning, Amazon just doing books.”
Sarah Tavel Sep 24, 2018 ▶ 13:26 20VC: Benchmark's Sarah Tavel on Why Investing Success Lies In Small Markets Adjacent To Very Large Ones, Why You Have To Be Judicious On When To Pay Up vs Be More Price Sensitive & Why Crypto Investing Is Like The Early Days of AdTech Investing
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Airbnb's review ecosystem creates defensibility that competitors cannot replicate
“A product that's not like Facebook, but it has that same network effect is Airbnb, right? Because it's a marketplace and obviously it's a matching of hosts and guests, but over time they've built so many reviews and ratings, both about the guest and the host. …”
Anu Hariharan Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 13:50 20VC: Why, How and When To Think About Growth Teams, The Right Way To Think About Network Effects & Scaling from Phase 1 To Phase 2 of Startup Life with Anu Hariharan, Partner @ YC Continuity Fund
Assertion Supported
Airbnb struggled for its first three years to build marketplace liquidity
“So Airbnb, when they first launched, I mean, they didn't have vital growth. I mean, they really struggled for the first three years to build liquidity in their marketplace, but”
Anu Hariharan Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 19:14 20VC: Why, How and When To Think About Growth Teams, The Right Way To Think About Network Effects & Scaling from Phase 1 To Phase 2 of Startup Life with Anu Hariharan, Partner @ YC Continuity Fund
Assertion Partly supported
Real estate tech represents $250B+ in public and private market value
“So if you just look at, you know, two of the three largest unicorns today are real estate and hospitality tech. We work in Airbnb after Uber. And then beyond them, there's another two hundred and fifty billion of real estate and hospitality tech companies out …”
Brendan Wallace May 3, 2017 ▶ 5:13 20VC: How LPs Can Add Strategic Value To Portfolio Companies & Why Real Estate Is On Every Whiteboard In Silicon Valley with Brendan Wallace, Co-Founder @ Fifth Wall
Disclosure
Felicis passed on investing in Uber, Airbnb, and Pinterest
“Passed on Uber, passed on Airbnb, passed on Pinterest.”
Aydin Senkut Apr 11, 2016 ▶ 24:31 20VC: Felicis' Aydin Senkut on Scaling Felicis From $4m to $120m, Doing Venture Differently and Why Being A VC Is Like A Jamaican Bobsled Team!
Assertion Supported
Major tech companies scaled without traditional sales or marketing
“There's a bunch of companies like PayPal, Airbnb, Facebook, Hotmail, Twitter, LinkedIn, Dropbox, WhatsApp, Quora, Reddit. A bunch of companies who've gotten really big, really fast, without doing any traditional sales or marketing.”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 10:22 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
Opinion
Arabshahi: Most horizontal marketplace opportunities have already been captured
“Most horizontal infrastructure that is going to be disrupted by big marketplaces has probably already been done so, right? So like Uber Airbnb, like the, you know, I think taxis are pretty much taken care of at this point.”
Arteen Arabshahi Aug 3, 2015 ▶ 17:00 20 VC 059: How To Approach VCs with Arteen Arabshahi, VC @ Karlin Ventures
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Hommels: Invested in early Airbnb after pitch from Guy Oseary
“In the case of Airbnb, it was a discussion I had with Guy Ozieri with the manager of Madonna, and we were chatting, and he basically was advertising it so heavily and tried to convince me, and I think at the end, I followed his logic, and luckily I made that d…”
Klaus Hommels Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 53:41 Klaus Hommels: Why "Portfolios are Merely a Construct to Make LPs Happy"? | E1231 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Brian Chesky calls Index the best partner that never invested in Airbnb
“Brian, Brian Chesky from Airbnb repeatedly loves to say, you know, Index is, is the team that they wish they, they're, it, Sorry. He says Index is the best partner that never invested in the company.”
Danny Rimer Jun 17, 2024 ▶ 11:17 Danny Rimer: The Biggest Lessons from Missing Snap, Airbnb, Spotify and Facebook | E1166 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Partly supported
Taussig: Airbnb spends 18% of revenue on marketing versus 30% for competitors
“Something like 18% of revenues on marketing, whereas bookings and Expedia spend 30%, and that's because they have unique inventory.”
Alex Taussig Feb 12, 2024 ▶ 1:08:29 Thomas Plantenga & Alex Taussig: Vinted CEO's Ultimate Guide to Scaling Marketplaces | E1114 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Harley Miller considers missing Airbnb in 2011 to be his biggest miss
“If I had to say it was probably Airbnb circa, 2011, 2012, right as I was getting my footing in this industry and having done some deals.”
Harley Miller May 2, 2022 ▶ 40:11 20VC: Scaling to $2BN AUM in 3 years, Fundraising Lessons and Tactics from 2,500 LP Meetings & What it Takes to Build a Firm That Stands the Test of Time with Harley Miller, Co-Founder and Managing Partner @ Left Lane Capital
Assertion Supported
Brian Chesky hired a full-time Pixar artist to storyboard Airbnb's experience
“He hired a full-time storyboard artist from Pixar that worked at Airbnb for over a year that helped develop these storyboards, these key frames along the journey of a host and a guest.”
Lenny Rachitsky Mar 16, 2022 ▶ 7:05 20 Product: Lenny Rachitsky on The 3 Key Roles of the Product Manager, 5 Skills All The Best PMs Have, When To Hire Your First PM, How to Structure the Hiring Process for PMs & What Leaders Can Do to Make Their PMs Successful
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Less than 1% of Airbnb guests used Rachitsky's initial travel feature
“The metrics were just like not great. It was like less than a percent of travelers in Airbnb were opting into this thing”
Lenny Rachitsky Mar 16, 2022 ▶ 30:23 20 Product: Lenny Rachitsky on The 3 Key Roles of the Product Manager, 5 Skills All The Best PMs Have, When To Hire Your First PM, How to Structure the Hiring Process for PMs & What Leaders Can Do to Make Their PMs Successful
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Garg: Gobble originally launched as an Airbnb-like peer-to-peer food marketplace
“And the first version of Gobble was what we called peer-to-peer lasagna, and it was a marketplace similar to Airbnb, but for home cook to make food and deliver to everyday people”
Ooshma Garg Nov 9, 2018 ▶ 23:47 20VC: Being A Wartime Leader in a Time of Peace, Why Marketing Channel Diversification Is Like The Life of A Scientist and Why Small and Mighty Beats Loud and Weak with Ooshma Garg, Founder & CEO @ Gobble
Disclosure
Jim Scheinman missed out on investing early in Airbnb
“As soon as I saw Airbnb, missed that one too, but I thought an Airbnb for food idea was a big idea”
Jim Scheinman Mar 2, 2016 ▶ 23:30 20VC: Building a Game Changing Consumer Startup and Hunting His 4th Unicorn with Jim Scheinman @ Maven Ventures
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Eniac Ventures acquired its Airbnb equity by selling an early portfolio company
“Airbnb is a situation where we sold a company to them early on.”
Hadley Harris Feb 3, 2016 ▶ 8:23 20VC: The Evolution Of Mobile & The Importance Of Follow On Funding with Hadley Harris @ Eniac Ventures
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: Kevin Hartz's Angel Portfolio Includes Airbnb, Uber, and Pinterest
“Kevin's also a prolific angel investor, with one of the most successful angel portfolios in the valley, with the likes of Airbnb, Uber, PayPal, Pinterest, and Yammer, all in Kevin's personal angel portfolio.”
Harry Stebbings May 22, 2017 ▶ 1:02 20VC: Founders Fund's Kevin Hartz on Why Investing In Silicon Valley Is Broken & Why Fearlessness Is What Makes The Truly Great Investors
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Betaworks invested in Airbnb, Twitter, and internally built Bitly and Chartbeat
“Matt is Director of Seed Investments at Betaworks, who have invested in the likes of Tumblr, Airbnb, Groupon, and Twitter, and have internally built startups such as Chartbeat, Bitly, and Socialflow.”
Harry Stebbings Oct 12, 2015 ▶ 0:19 20 VC 078: BETAWORKS WEEK: Matt Hartman, Director of Seed Investments @ Betaworks
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