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Brendan Wallace

CEO & CIO, Fifth Wall · 3 appearances on the record.

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Brendan Wallace is the CEO of Fifth Wall, a venture capital firm focused on technology and decarbonization in the built environment. Before Fifth Wall, he co-founded Latin American ridesharing platform Cabify as well as workforce analytics startup Identified, which was acquired by Workday in 2014.

43statements → 27claims → 16claims resolved → 75%fully supported → 4.05/5average certainty → 2.07/5average debate potential → ≈4.5/5argument clarity, estimated → 4said about them ↓

12 supported 3 partly supported 1 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 10 not checkable as stated how the 27 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

10 predictions · 17 assertions · 5 opinions · 5 insights · 6 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 27 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 16 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 10 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Brendan argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Prediction Held up
Consumer retail brands will not achieve $10 billion software-style exits
“What I don't think you'll see is the ten billion dollar exits that typically you see in true software, both enterprise and consumer software businesses, and like we look for out of our real estate technology fund,”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 19:08 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
E-commerce represents only 15 percent of total US retail sales
“And today, e-commerce accounts for about 15% of all US retail sales.”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 8:36 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

none yet certainty 1
none yet certainty 2
100% certainty 3
81% certainty 4
100% certainty 5

weighted support: a fully supported claim counts one, a partly supported claim counts half. Each filled bar is clickable and opens exactly those claims; "none yet" means nothing said at that certainty level has resolved yet

How they sound: speaking style how? →

222 words/min while actually speaking · 0.8 um and uh per 1k words

No argument clarity score for Brendan Wallace: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews. Their coarse estimate from 30 exchanges on the produced feed is ≈4.5/5, shown at half point precision because the sample is small and produced tape scores higher.

Measured by listening to 11,804 words across 3 episodes, but every recording we have of Brendan Wallace is the aired feed, and an editor cleaned that audio before release. Some of the hesitation was cut before we ever heard it, so read these as floors: the true rates are at least this high. These are measurements of speaking style, not scores. How it's measured →

How the interview went all their pushback → series average →

Across 3 rated episodes:

host pushback ▾ 4/10
pushed back at the host ▾ 2.3/10
setup questions received 52%

Everything Brendan Wallace said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Wallace: Left to their own devices, corporate VCs make terrible decisions
“While they have all this potential left to their own devices, corporates will make terrible decisions.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 33:14 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Insight
Digitally native brands inevitably hit an online customer acquisition cost wall
“But what they all seem to face is this dynamic where they grow to a certain point. And at a certain point, whether it's five million dollars or ten million dollars or twenty million dollars, they hit this asymptote. And at that asymptote, the cost of acquiring…”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 8:55 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Prediction Not checkable as stated
The era of the 1,000-store retail brand is permanently over
“The era of the thousand store brand is over, and I just don't think it's coming back.”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 13:23 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Prediction Held up
Consumer retail brands will not achieve $10 billion software-style exits
“What I don't think you'll see is the ten billion dollar exits that typically you see in true software, both enterprise and consumer software businesses, and like we look for out of our real estate technology fund,”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 19:08 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Legacy retail giants will be replaced by hundreds of niche brands
“I think we're not going to have the gaps and the banana republics and the major brands of the era previously replaced by five to 10 new brands, but instead they'll be replaced by hundreds of brands.”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 20:50 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Assertion Not checkable as stated
The top 200 digitally native brands are growing faster than Amazon
“Actually, if you look at kind of the top 200 digitally native brands, they're actually growing faster than Amazon, independently of Amazon, and many of them don't sell their products on Amazon.”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 32:48 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2027
Airport parking will be largely obsolete by 2027 due to AVs
“No one's going to park a car at an airport probably in 10 years, or very few people will.”
Brendan Wallace May 3, 2017 ▶ 18:08 20VC: How LPs Can Add Strategic Value To Portfolio Companies & Why Real Estate Is On Every Whiteboard In Silicon Valley with Brendan Wallace, Co-Founder @ Fifth Wall
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Real estate valuations will react to AVs well before mass adoption
“Even though the mass adoption might not happen for a long time now, I think the impact on real estate could happen on a much more accelerated basis.”
Brendan Wallace May 3, 2017 ▶ 24:08 20VC: How LPs Can Add Strategic Value To Portfolio Companies & Why Real Estate Is On Every Whiteboard In Silicon Valley with Brendan Wallace, Co-Founder @ Fifth Wall
Opinion
VTS holds a virtual monopoly in office leasing management software
“Literally this company has basically a monopoly on this category.”
Brendan Wallace May 3, 2017 ▶ 28:48 20VC: How LPs Can Add Strategic Value To Portfolio Companies & Why Real Estate Is On Every Whiteboard In Silicon Valley with Brendan Wallace, Co-Founder @ Fifth Wall
Opinion
Wallace: Venture capital is a boring industry that has never been disrupted
“VC is a pretty boring industry. Talk about an industry that's never been disrupted, right?”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 10:59 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Opinion
Wallace: Silicon Valley echo chamber caused VCs to overlook proptech
“I do think there's an echo chamber that exists in Silicon Valley that has actually perpetuated some of the problems in venture capital in the Bay Area and overlooking huge categories like prop tech.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 13:46 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Assertion Supported
Wallace: Corporate investors now account for 45% of all venture capital dollars
“Corporate investors represent 45% of all dollars into venture capital.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 37:19 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Prediction Held up
Wallace: Corporate VC will exceed 50% of all venture dollars by 2031
“And I expect that sometime over the next decade, it'll be more than half.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 37:35 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wallace: Proptech sector will grow 10x to 20x from current levels
“Prop tech is 10 to 20 X from here.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 41:45 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Assertion Supported
Amazon's Google AdWords spending makes customer acquisition prohibitive for upstart brands
“On frankly, Google AdWords to grow very quickly online, but now Amazon is the number one spender on Google AdWords, and frankly, they're making the cost of customer acquisition almost prohibitive for many of these new upstart brands”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 15:39 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Opinion
Influencer marketing cannot scale brands to hundreds of millions in revenue
“You then run into challenges around scale, which is, that's not really a platform to build a Multi hundred million dollar revenue business.”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 16:01 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Insight
Series A and B retail startups carry lower loss risk than software
“I think the loss ratio generally should be lower because you can underwrite a more stable business. So because valuation multiples are lower within e-commerce and retail investing, the ability to massively overvalue a business with very low revenue Who might a…”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 24:06 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Proptech adoption will expand for a decade, creating trillion-dollar markets
“You're not just talking about opportunities in the billions of dollars with enormous total addressable markets. You're talking about opportunities in the trillions of dollars. So I think this is a trend that will go on for probably the next decade, frankly.”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 32:27 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa
Insight
Corporate incumbents determine winners and losers in proptech
“A handful of incumbents, a handful of big corporates really dictate who wins and who loses in real estate tech.”
Brendan Wallace May 3, 2017 ▶ 8:08 20VC: How LPs Can Add Strategic Value To Portfolio Companies & Why Real Estate Is On Every Whiteboard In Silicon Valley with Brendan Wallace, Co-Founder @ Fifth Wall
Disclosure
Wallace: Fifth Wall invested in Hippo before finishing its first fund
“We hadn't even raised our fund. And the soft was like, you need to invest in our business. And I was like, I don't even have a fund yet. I don't know how I'm possibly going to do that. But ultimately we did.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 7:49 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Disclosure
Wallace: States Title bought an entire business unit from a corporate LP
“Our idea was our corporates would just buy the products of the tech companies we were investing in. We didn't contemplate that our startups would be buying entire businesses from our corporates, which is precisely what Max did.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 8:33 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Assertion Supported
Wallace: $64 billion was invested in proptech from 2016 to 2021
“Now, sixty four billion dollars has gone into the category in just the last five years.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 25:56 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Assertion Supported
Wallace: Fifth Wall manages $1.4B and counts 4 top US homebuilders as LPs
“We're now with a 1,000,000,004 under management. We have four of the top five home builders as strategic LPs in our fund.”
Brendan Wallace Feb 18, 2021 ▶ 35:27 20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and What Can Be Done To Solve It, The Pros and Cons of Working with Corporate Investors and How Leading Their Teams Has Fundamentally Changed in a COVID World
Insight
Retail real estate owners require specialized tenant and customer engagement tech
“What we saw in engaging in fund one was that retail real estate owners had fairly idiosyncratic needs. What they were looking for was both technology for the plants, but they were actually looking to identify technologies that supported their engagement with b…”
Brendan Wallace May 6, 2019 ▶ 6:29 20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How To Alter Fund Strategy When Investing In Consumer Retail & Why The Era of The 1,000 Store Brand Is Over with Brendan Wallace, Founder and Managing Partner @ Fifth Wa

Show 19statements(19 left)

The other half of the tape: Brendan Wallace's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 4 times in 3 episodes on 20VC. every mention, with the transcript →

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Every mention by year

Appearances (3)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
20VC Special: The Real Estate Fintech OGs on Why This Is Not The End For The Bay Area and Feb 18, 2021 10m
20VC: Why Consumer Brands Must Embrace Physical Retail To Avoid Inflated Online CACs, How May 6, 2019 23m
20VC: How LPs Can Add Strategic Value To Portfolio Companies & Why Real Estate Is On Every May 3, 2017 23m
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