Sarah Tavel
Venture Partner, Benchmark · 4 appearances on the record, plus 1 compilation re-air.
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Sarah Tavel became Benchmark’s first female General Partner in 2017, leading investments in companies such as Chainalysis and Hipcamp. Earlier, she co-led Bessemer's Series A in Pinterest, joined as its first product manager, and was later a partner at Greylock.
69statements → 25claims → 13claims resolved → 92%fully supported → 3.85/5average certainty → 2.51/5average debate potential → 4.2/5argument clarity · the sources → 76said about them ↓
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219 words/min while actually speaking · 14.3 um and uh per 1k words · 25.2 false starts per 1k · 36.2% of pauses land inside a clause
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Across 5 rated episodes:
host pushback ▾ 3.6/10
pushed back at the host ▾ 2.6/10
setup questions received 52%
host pushback: the hardest questions Harry asked, tap to play ▶ 3:58“Is there money to be made investing in foundation models? When you look at the quantum of capital that is required to go in, there's obviously rumors of Mr. R's new funding around,…” ▶ 7:12“Speaking of being agnostic about your LLM, would you invest in OpenAI at ninety billion dollars then, Des?” ▶ 11:51“Brad, you're the COO of OpenAI. What is a simple question that a company or a founder can ask to determine whether they will be steamrolled or not by OpenAI?” ▶ 6:57“Do the best founders not will markets into existence?” ▶ 36:06“Why does it not get cheaper to trade models?” ▶ 42:22“Is it not just providing a better quality product?”
when Sarah pushed back ▶ 34:06“Harry, you can't make me choose favorites.” ▶ 34:50“I may be a contrarian on that side, but, you know, what I always Lean in on, and you see it with Hipcamp and Chainalysis for sure, is just incredible founders that see an opportuni…” ▶ 31:43“Well, it wouldn't be fair to me to Pick favorites, Harry.” ▶ 32:10“So, hey, don't, don't call me old.”
Everything Sarah Tavel said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
Tavel: Benchmark barely reserves capital for follow-on investments
“We don't think about reserves. Period. Barely. We're very oriented towards our initial investment, and in that moment, you know, we are more ownership sensitive than probably most other firms. But then after we invest, we are 100% aligned with whatever objecti…”
Sarah Tavel: AI enables software startups to sell completed work outcomes
“What AI enables is actually a very different unit of work that you sell, which is doing the work. And so you're almost a software company that looks like a services business. That is able to sell like the full work product that the outcome, as opposed to selli…”
Sarah Tavel: Non-seat-based AI models will disrupt traditional SaaS incumbents
“And this is very disruptive to incumbents because incumbents are used to thinking about selling per seat and pricing per seat based on the cost of the headcount. But if instead you're selling something that doesn't require a seat, that is like a very disruptiv…”
Tavel: AI application layer will capture tremendous long-term value
“I focus on the application layer because I do think that's where a tremendous amount of value ends up being captured and created.”
Tavel: Escalating training costs will produce foundation model oligopoly
“Each successive model is going to be more and more expensive. That suggests a world where you're going to have an oligopoly.”
Tavel: BeReal failed because it couldn't compete with short-form video dopamine
“What happened with Be Real in my estimation is that they did capture that why now of the authenticity But they could never earn the right to enough minutes for a consumer because the consumer was then having, you know, the dopamine hits of, you know, the most …”
Tavel: AI for existing workflows will drive tremendous market cap for incumbents
“If it's existing employees and their existing workflows that, you know, AI technology is going to be sustaining and it's going to drive tremendous market cap for the incumbents.”
Tavel: AI enables startups to sell completed work rather than software seats
“What AI enables is actually a very different unit of work that you sell, which is doing the work. And so you're almost a software company that looks like a services business that is able to sell like the full work product that the outcome, as opposed to sellin…”
Tavel: Selling AI work expands target markets by 10x-50x over software
“Part of the opportunity with selling work as an AI startup is that the market for that could actually be 10 or 50 X bigger than if you were selling software. Why is that? You're selling a 95% productivity improvement instead of a 10% productivity improvement. …”
Tavel: OpenAI will not match specialized audio and video startups' focus
“Those are going to progress, but they're not going to progress with the same level of focus and ambition as the core foundation model that OpenAI is working on. They might progress as beneficiaries of that core work, but it doesn't have the same level of focus…”
Tavel: OpenAI will not build deep enterprise workflow integrations
“So that something coming out, you know, an open AI, they're just not going to build that same level of workflow, the same level of integration. And so it's going to be, there's, there are, there's plenty of work to be done. That's beyond the model itself.”
Tavel: Frontier AI models will remain closed source unless Meta shifts market
“If you want a model that's on the frontier, that's going to be closed source. Now, look, every, as I mentioned, every month it feels different with what Meta's doing with Llama, that may actually fundamentally change the game. If Meta is willing to make that h…”
Tavel: Pay high startup prices if you like everything else
“In those cases, someone said this to me once, and it really hit me, is like, if you like everything but the price, you pay the price.”
Facebook cutting Pinterest off its newsfeed shifted growth from exponential to linear
“I remember early on at Pinterest, there was a time when Facebook acquired Instagram. We were both growing exponentially. Pinterest and Instagram were growing exponentially at the time. They acquired Instagram, and then they shut Pinterest off the newsfeed. So …”
Chasing early GMV prevents marketplaces from achieving true market dominance
“The challenge with chasing GMV is that it actually points you away from that place of dominance. Like it points you in the wrong direction because oftentimes, or actually not even oftentimes, almost always, the fastest short-term path to maximizing GMV is to g…”
DoorDash outmaneuvered Grubhub and Uber Eats by subsidizing economics for market dominance
“DoorDash in particular that was able to raise an incredible amount of capital, and they were competing against Grubhub and Uber Eats, both of whom were at that point public companies, and then were being evaluated by a completely different rule book in a way. …”
Tavel: Being underestimated is a startup's best defense against capital incineration
“This is one of the reasons why I think it's actually a competitive weapon for a startup right now to be underestimated from the outside, because the second that there are multiple competitors going after your opportunity, the unit economics just degrade becaus…”
Tavel: Benchmark does not delegate operational work to platform teams
“At Benchmark, our model is that we don't delegate any part of our job. We've tried not to scale our business and just be focused on scaling the founders with whom we work. And so that means that there isn't a talent partner that is doing recruiting calls for m…”
Tavel: Compressed venture timelines will cause suboptimal board relationships
“Rounds are just happening so quickly right now, and to use the analogy I used before of speed dating, it just feels like It used to be that a round would happen over the course of a couple weeks, but now I just see things happening in a few days, and it is the…”
Easy venture capital diffuses focus and makes pivoting to profitability dangerous
“When companies are able to raise a lot of capital easily, they naturally take on more of a growth orientation. Yeah, I kind of think of it as you can turn the wheel towards growth, and you, or you can turn the wheel towards profitability, and all these compani…”
Private startup valuations are seeing massive step-ups across all funding stages
“I would say the same feedback that your seed investors gave you on the step up from the C to the A, we're seeing the A to the B. And I've got to imagine it's the same for every subsequent round. It's just, if you have something that's working, I just continue …”
Investors should pay premium valuations for startups demonstrating clear network effects
“Kind of the way I think about it is that when there is a company that has the potential for a clear network effect and something's really working so much so that you feel like that company can really get away from you in terms of growth, then paying what does …”
2018 crypto startups secured nine-figure valuations based solely on white papers
“And then what's different though, from ad tech is that, and it makes it even harder is that you're often investing in a white paper or a deck. There's no code or traction that you get to invest behind. The company often has, you know, over a hundred million do…”
Crypto investing will increasingly mirror Open Source 2.0 corporate governance models
“The trajectory right now is that increasingly investing in crypto is looking more and more like technology investing that we've always had. It reminds me very much of kind of the open source one point O era. And I just think this is going to look a lot more li…”
The other half of the tape: Sarah Tavel's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 74 times in 36 episodes on 20VC. 2 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Harry Stebbings 48Jeremy Levine 9Charlie O'Donnell 4Eric Vishria 3Michael Eisenberg 2Delian Asparouhov 2Sarah Guo 1Sameer Shariff 1
Statements about Sarah Tavel, by other people (2)
Every mention by year
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2025 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2024 14 mentions in 9 episodes 2 per episode
- Eric Vishria: Where is the Value in AI - Chips, Models or Apps? | E1206 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Delian Asparouhov: Inside the Walls of Founders Fund: What the World Does Not See | E1183 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Aaron Levie: How the Business Model of SaaS Changes Forever & Startups vs Incumbents:Who Wins?|E1155 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Saam Motamedi: Why Series B Won’t Make Money & Why $1M ARR is a BS Milestone for Series A | E1177 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Andrew Bialecki: Is Klaviyo the Most Under-Priced Public Company? | E1170 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Michael Eisenberg: How China Could Overtake the US in the AI Race | E1167 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- 1 more episode that year, every mention in 2024 →
2023 3 mentions in 3 episodes 1 per episode
- Roundtable #7: Spotify, Adobe and Linkedin on How AI Changes The Future of Product & Design | E1097 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- 20VC: NEW FORMAT: Harry Stebbings on Why Seed Pricing is as High as Ever, Why Series A is the Best Place to Invest Today, Why Growth Founders Need to Reshape Expectations, Why M&A Windows Remain Shut and When Will IPO Windows Crack Open
- Michael Eisenberg and Adi Levanon: Israeli Resilience in Crisis | E1072 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- every mention in 2023, scene by scene →
2022 4 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
- Cambly CEO Sameer Shariff: Why I Raised $60M and Didn't Touch a Dollar | 20VC #914 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
- every mention in 2022, scene by scene →
2021 13 mentions in 2 episodes 7 per episode
- 20VC: The Pinterest Memo: Bessemer's Jeremy Levine on The Secret To Success within User Generated Content Plays, Where Most Investors Make Mistakes When Analysing Consumer Social and How The Pinterest Deal Wouldn't Have Happened without a Diverse Partners
- 20VC: The Memo: Sequoia's Alfred Lin on Why Chasing GMV Leads To Bad Behaviours, How To Approach Competition and Capital Efficiency & The Core Importance of Understanding the Difference Between Input and Output Metrics
- every mention in 2021, scene by scene →
2020 10 mentions in 3 episodes 3 per episode
- 20VC: How To Solve The Chicken and Egg Problem in Marketplaces? How Important Is Differentiated Supply? How To Prevent Leakage? How to Create Marketplace Defensibility and more with Alyssa Ravasio, Founder & CEO @ Hipcamp
- 20VC: Zach Weinberg on Whether A Company is a Democracy, The Importance of Ownership, The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds, Multi-Stage Funds Entering Seed and How he Approaches Both Risk and Personal Capital Allocation
- 20VC: Why You Never Want To Fight A Fair Fit For Distribution, Why No Great Company Is Built with 1 Product and When To Release Your Second & What Founders Can Do To Extract The Most From Their Cap Table with Shoaib Makani, Founder & CEO @ KeepTruckin
- every mention in 2020, scene by scene →
2019 8 mentions in 5 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Benchmark's Bill Gurley on 5 Traits Benchmark Look For When Adding To The Partnership, Why The Abundance of Capital Is Today's Biggest Challenge in VC & The Right Way To Think About Market Size When Assessing Opportunities
- 20VC: Benchmark's Chetan Puttagunta on The One Question To Ask When Analysing Market Size, How To Compete in Today's War for Talent & Why We Have Seen An Over-Rotation In Running Businesses Based on Metrics
- 20VC: Mercury Founder Immad Akhund on Why Angel Investing Makes Founders Better Operators, The Right Way For Founders To Discuss and Present Competition To Investors & How To Think About Your Initial Wedge Into The Market and How It Expands Over Time
- 20VC: Okta Founder Frederic Kerrest on Why You Want To Be A Monopolist In A Small Market, The Biggest Challenges in Scaling Okta To IPO and Being a16z's First Ever Fund Check
- 20VC: Spark Capital's Alex Clayton on How The Best Growth Investors Source, Evaluate and Win Deals, Why Market Depth Is Crucial When Analysing Markets & Why Capital Is Only A Temporary Competitive Advantage
- every mention in 2019, scene by scene →
2018 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
- 20VC: Top 3 Considerations When Evaluating Consumer Businesses Today | 700 Meetings, 70 LPs, 2 Years, What It Takes To Raise a First Time Fund| The Power of The Female Network In Action Today with Anu Duggal, Founding Partner @ Female Founders Fund
- 20VC: Lessons From Scaling Trulia to IPO, How To Maximise Your Impact within Your Organisation and Why No One Is Ever 100% Ready For The Next Job with Heather Fernandez, Founder @ CEO @ Solv
- every mention in 2018, scene by scene →
2017 7 mentions in 3 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Why Companies Going Bust Is Part Of The Plan, Why Most VCs Are Later Stage Than They Think & Why Venture Capital Is Humbling with Charlie O'Donnell, Founder @ Brooklyn Bridge Ventures
- 20VC: Why Spray & Pray Investing Is Wrong, Why Data-Informed VC Beats Data Driven VC & What To Look For When Investing In A Marketplace with Josh Breinlinger, Managing Director @ Jackson Square Ventures
- 20VC: Preparing For The Next Big Trend, Why Conversational Will Be The Next Big Thing & How Entrepreneurs Should View Market Size with Sarah Guo @ Greylock Partners
- every mention in 2017, scene by scene →
2016 10 mentions in 5 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Sam Lessin on Why Bots Will Change Business & The Internet Has Mostly Failed
- 20VC: How Startups Should React To Today's Funding Environment & Why Big Markets Are More Forgiving with Jenny Lefcourt, Partner @ Freestyle.vc
- 20VC: Greylock's Josh Elman on Why We Are Not In A Consumer Downturn, The Next Wave Of Social and What Twitter Should Do Next
- 20VC: Maveron's Rebecca Kaden on The Patterns Of Entrepreneurship and Taking A Consumer Product From Niche To Mass Market
- 20VC: Sprig's Gagan Biyani on The 3 Principles Of Fundraising and Building The World's Largest Restaurant
- every mention in 2016, scene by scene →
Appearances (5)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Sam Altman, Arthur Mensch and more discuss:Which Startups Are Threatened vs Enabled by Ope compilation | May 24, 2024 | 1m |
| Sarah Tavel: Will Foundation Models Be Commoditised? | E1149 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings | May 6, 2024 | 49m |
| 20VC: Benchmark's Sarah Tavel on Why Chasing GMV Will Lead To The Wrong Direction, The 2 C | Nov 23, 2020 | 26m |
| 20VC: Benchmark's Sarah Tavel on Why Investing Success Lies In Small Markets Adjacent To V | Sep 24, 2018 | 23m |
| 20VC: Greylock's Sarah Tavel on What Founders Need From A Good Investor and Why Products N | Apr 6, 2016 | 18m |