seed investor

also referred to as: seed investors

22 statements across 20 episodes · 4 bullish · 10 bearish · 16 people on the record · first statement Mar 25, 2016 by Branko Cerny · across every show →

Everything said about seed investor, oldest first

Mar 25, 2016 positive
Insight
Cerny: Smart seed investors back high founder learning velocity
“And I think the smartest seed investors are investing in, in the founder's ability to use the seed capital to really figure out the answers to some really hard questions that have never previously been answered and make a lot of mistakes along the way, but lea…”
Branko Cerny Mar 25, 2016 ▶ 18:40 Immediately's Branko Cerny on The Rise Of Bottoms Up Sales and The Importance of Branding For Enterprise SaaS Companies
May 16, 2016 positive
Opinion
Rob Go: Pre-Seed Funds Now Serve Original Purpose of Seed Investors
“I just think that you know, they're kind of doing what seed investors were kind of meant to do when this whole thing started.”
Rob Go May 16, 2016 ▶ 16:42 20VC: Rob Go @ NextView on WTF Is Seed Investing Today and Why Raising Too Much Money Can Harm Your Startup
May 16, 2016 neutral
Insight
Rob Go: Seed investors guide startups to product-market fit
“The job of a seed investor is to invest in a company before product market fit, and try to take the company to the other side of product market fit and into sort of early validation and early growth.”
Rob Go May 16, 2016 ▶ 6:10 20VC: Rob Go @ NextView on WTF Is Seed Investing Today and Why Raising Too Much Money Can Harm Your Startup
May 18, 2016 neutral
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Lefcourt: Seed investors are no longer issuing next-day term sheets
“Now I would say that that pace has calmed down, and we're probably all at that pace, meaning that you're not meeting a company and giving them a term sheet the next day, but you're making sure that you really have a good relationship with this team, that you'v…”
Jenny Lefcourt May 18, 2016 ▶ 12:16 20VC: How Startups Should React To Today's Funding Environment & Why Big Markets Are More Forgiving with Jenny Lefcourt, Partner @ Freestyle.vc
May 18, 2016 positive
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Lefcourt: Seed market in 2016 is calmer and more realistic than 2014
“I feel that right now it feels like a calmer, more realistic time, at least for me, and I would argue my, the, you know, the other seed investors than it did two years ago when I joined Freestyle.”
Jenny Lefcourt May 18, 2016 ▶ 11:14 20VC: How Startups Should React To Today's Funding Environment & Why Big Markets Are More Forgiving with Jenny Lefcourt, Partner @ Freestyle.vc
Nov 16, 2016 negative
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Seed investors categorically refuse internal bridge funding for portfolio companies
“And it turns out many seed investors, if you ask them, if they come on your show and say, hey, seed investor, do you inside bridge your companies? Almost every one of them is going to tell you categorically, no, that's something we don't do.”
Paul Martino Nov 16, 2016 ▶ 19:01 20VC: Investing In Sectors That Were Cool 2 Years Ago, What Accel's Facebook Fund Taught a Generation of LPs & Why LPs Need A New Discovery Process with Paul Martino, Founding Partner @ Bullpen Capital
Dec 12, 2016 negative
Opinion
Ohanian: Most seed investors lack founder and operational experience
“Turns out there were not a ton of people doing this kind of early stage seed investing who were willing to do the work or even could do the work. Because they just hadn't been founders before. They hadn't been makers or doers before.”
Alexis Ohanian Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 5:46 20VC: Reddit's Alexis Ohanian on How It All Started With Paul Graham @ YC, The Biggest Surprises About Making The Move Into VC & Why Alexis Believes All The Best Investors Have Operating Experience
Sep 25, 2017 negative
Insight
Vishria: Seed checks from Series A firms carry major signaling risk
“For the entrepreneur, you do have to really think about the signaling risk of that being a seed investor, of a firm that also leads A's being a seed investor. What if they decide not to compete for the A? Then is that a bad signal to everyone else? I think gen…”
Eric Vishria Sep 25, 2017 ▶ 14:35 20VC: Benchmark's Eric Vishria on Why Career VCs Have Advantages Most Under Appreciate, Why We Are In An Infrastructure Renaissance & What Makes The Best VC Partnership
Jan 17, 2018 negative
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Altman: Y Combinator Forced Seed Investors to Stop Exploiting Founders
“I think before YC came along, a lot of seed investors way overplayed their leverage over founders and would break term sheets, renegotiate deals, weak confidential information. And then YC was a powerful enough force to say, you can't do this or there will be …”
Sam Altman Jan 17, 2018 ▶ 18:24 20VC: Sam Altman, Y Combinator President on What Makes Truly Great Leaders, Why We Will See A Compression of Seed Funding & The Future Scaling of YC
Aug 9, 2019 neutral
Insight
Hiten Shah: Seed investors primarily focus on getting startups to their next round
“The simplest outcome on the seed stage is that this business gets the next round. And so you have to understand what the incentive is for the investor, what the incentive is for yourself, which is obviously building a great business. I'm assuming if you're a f…”
Hiten Shah Aug 9, 2019 ▶ 15:15 20VC: Hiten Shah on The Right Way To Think About Depression, Control and Burnout, Why Nobody Really Knows What They Are Doing and How One Should Receive Advice As A Result & How To Gain Self-Awareness As A Leader
Sep 16, 2019 neutral
Insight
Shah: Seed VCs should outsource Series A and B follow-on decisions
“If your competency is seeded, And then you follow on an A or B. You don't really have the competency as a manager to assess whether that's a good A deal, whether that's a good B deal. So part of what you need to do as a manager is outsource that decision to th…”
Semil Shah Sep 16, 2019 ▶ 28:37 20VC: Haystack's Semil Shah on Whether Founders Are Bypassing Seed Funds in Favour Of Less Dilutive Multi-Stage Funds, How Fund Strategy Changes With Fund Scaling & Why The Hardest Challenge is Price Discipline
Feb 13, 2023 neutral
Insight
Loverro: Valuation corrections take 1.5 to 2 years to reach seed investors
“What happens is, here, here's the waterfall, right? Okay, public markets multiples correct, and you're, let's say you're like a mutual fund, and you do pre-IPO rounds, and companies aren't trading at 30 times revenue anymore, they're trading at seven times, an…”
Tom Loverro Feb 13, 2023 ▶ 22:20 Tom Loverro: The Ultimate Startup Survival Guide for 2023 | 20VC #977 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2023 bearish
Opinion
Lemkin: Seed investors cannot generate returns by investing in hot startups
“I just don't think you can make money in seed investing in hot seed startups. I don't think you can.”
Jason Lemkin Aug 9, 2023 ▶ 22:01 Jason Lemkin: Every VC has a FRAUD in their portfolio; The IPO market is about to EXPLODE | E1046 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 27, 2023 negative
Insight
Sim: Seed and pre-seed investors take less risk over time
“And then the pre-seed category was created because seed, seed investors weren't taking as much risk. And now the pre-seed investors aren't taking as much risk, which is why I'm saying let's do inception investing.”
Ed Sim Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 18:39 Ed Sim: Why Seed Has Never Been More Competitive & Why Pricing Has Never Been Higher | E1076 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 5, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Tisch: No seed investor is ten times more accurate than peers
“I don't think there's a seed investor that you can find who is figured out how to be right 10 times more often than another seed investor.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 28:54 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 3, 2024 negative
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Lemkin: Seed investors should not sell secondary shares before a $1B valuation
“I think that there's no point in even as a seed investor selling before a billion. It's not enough money.”
Jason Lemkin Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 40:49 Jason Lemkin: PluralSight S*** the Bed & The Next IPO Candidates | E1160 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 16, 2024
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shah: Seed investors use signaling risk as a tactical objection
“In the seed market most seed investors are using signaling as part of an objection to work with a multi-stage fund.”
Shardul Shah Sep 16, 2024 ▶ 31:16 Shardul Shah: How Index Makes Decisions & Why Benchmarks & Averages in VC are BS | E1202 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 5, 2025 negative
Opinion
Moore: Seed investors deliberately stoke founder fears over multi-stage signaling risk
“I will also say that any seed investor competing with a multi-stage firm will go very, very out of their way to instill this Wild fear in the founder's mind about like the risk of that.”
Bucky Moore May 5, 2025 ▶ 46:16 Bucky Moore @ Lightspeed Venture Partners: Why You Cannot Do VC If You Do Not Do Pre-Seed · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 29, 2025
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Lemkin: Seed investors face over two-thirds dilution to IPO without pro-rata
“I think you've got to assume now over two thirds dilution from seed if you don't do pro rata to IPO two thirds.”
Jason Lemkin May 29, 2025 ▶ 39:04 OpenAI’s $6BN Jony Ive Deal & YC Is Both Chanel and Walmart, and Has Officially Won! · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 19, 2025 positive
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Zhang: Founders should pick different lead investors for Seed and Series A
“I actually think given a choice, you should have different investors for the C and the A because you just get two firms instead of one. They bring different things.”
Jesse Zhang Sep 19, 2025 ▶ 15:41 20VC: Why 90% of Founders Build Startups Wrong | Why AI Growth Rates are Sustainable & Remote Work is BS and the AI Talent War | Competing with Brett Taylor and Sierra: Who Wins the Customer Service War with Jesse Zhang, Decagon
Oct 16, 2025 negative
Opinion
Lemkin: Liquidation Preferences Do Not Matter for Seed Stage Investing
“I don't believe liquidation preferences matter. I don't believe they're a big deal, despite what they are next. But my liquidation preference has always been, and I put it in quotes, not true, knowing the founder would never quit. That's my protection as a see…”
Jason Lemkin Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 21:28 Thinking Machines Co-Founder Joins Meta for $3.5BN, Industry Venture's $665M Acquisition · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 9, 2026 negative
Insight
Lemkin: Effective seed valuation is four times nominal price due to dilution
“As a seed investor, I used to think my real entry price was twice what it looked because of dilution. Right now I'm thinking it's four times.”
Jason Lemkin Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 20:06 Enterprises Fear Frontier Models | Sam Altman Offers Trump 5% of OpenAI | DeepSeek Builds Own Chips · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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