Nov 18, 2020 · 21m · top-founders

Almabase Hits $1.1m Revenue Helping Universities Manage Alumni Donations

Kalyan Varma · 12m spoken Nathan Latka · 5m spoken
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In this interview with Nathan Latka, Almabase founder and CEO Kalyan Varma explains how his company scaled to 1.1 million dollars in annual recurring revenue by modernizing alumni relations and fundraising for 240 educational institutions. He details Almabase's capital-efficient 'Value SaaS' approach, non-dilutive revenue-based financing, multi-product monetization model, and distributed team structure.

How this conversation actually went

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Nathan as informed peer 5.1 Guest teaching 2.7 Guest disagreement 1.1 Nathan pushing back 3.1
05100:0010:0020:002:06–4:35 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 The Core Problem: Alumni Relations and Almabase's Solution Latka immediately drills into the monetization structure, separating pure SaaS ARR from transaction cuts. Varma clarifies contract sizes, explaining the tiered pricing across digital fundraising, events, and community products.4:36–7:24 · Nathan as informed peer 4/10 Origin Story and Pivot from India to the US Varma describes the founding journey and initial naive assumption about the Indian market before pivoting to the US. Latka tracks customer numbers and examines the impact of COVID-19 on churn versus new pipeline.7:26–10:09 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Kalyan's Pre-Almabase Career and Early Ventures Latka leverages Varma's Goldman Sachs background to push for a rigorous explanation of revenue-based financing from Lighter Capital. Varma lays out the 40% cap and monthly cash receipt repayment mechanics.10:12–13:15 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Sponsor Break: Fiverr Following the sponsor read, Latka presses Varma on how percentage tiers shift based on gross receipts and how RBF compares to traditional bank debt.13:15–16:05 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Revenue Milestones and the Value SaaS Philosophy Latka sets up a dichotomy between founders seeking flashy headlines versus building profitable equity, prompting Varma to explain his 'Value SaaS' philosophy. Varma also details sales team unit economics leveraging offshore staffing.16:05–19:04 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Financial Health, Cash Flow, and Professional Services Latka assumes raising debt implies net monthly burn, but Varma corrects him by revealing they cut costs during COVID and generate roughly $20k/month in net profit. Varma explains why purely taking a donation percentage attracts low-quality customers compared to full-suite SaaS.19:04–20:48 · Nathan as informed peer 4/10 Customer Acquisition Cost and Payback Period Varma shares lead gen and AE-loaded CAC metrics yielding a 6 to 9 month payback period before answering Latka's standard closing rapid-fire questions.2:06–4:35 · Guest teaching 3/10 The Core Problem: Alumni Relations and Almabase's Solution Latka immediately drills into the monetization structure, separating pure SaaS ARR from transaction cuts. Varma clarifies contract sizes, explaining the tiered pricing across digital fundraising, events, and community products.4:36–7:24 · Guest teaching 2/10 Origin Story and Pivot from India to the US Varma describes the founding journey and initial naive assumption about the Indian market before pivoting to the US. Latka tracks customer numbers and examines the impact of COVID-19 on churn versus new pipeline.7:26–10:09 · Guest teaching 3/10 Kalyan's Pre-Almabase Career and Early Ventures Latka leverages Varma's Goldman Sachs background to push for a rigorous explanation of revenue-based financing from Lighter Capital. Varma lays out the 40% cap and monthly cash receipt repayment mechanics.10:12–13:15 · Guest teaching 2/10 Sponsor Break: Fiverr Following the sponsor read, Latka presses Varma on how percentage tiers shift based on gross receipts and how RBF compares to traditional bank debt.13:15–16:05 · Guest teaching 3/10 Revenue Milestones and the Value SaaS Philosophy Latka sets up a dichotomy between founders seeking flashy headlines versus building profitable equity, prompting Varma to explain his 'Value SaaS' philosophy. Varma also details sales team unit economics leveraging offshore staffing.16:05–19:04 · Guest teaching 5/10 Financial Health, Cash Flow, and Professional Services Latka assumes raising debt implies net monthly burn, but Varma corrects him by revealing they cut costs during COVID and generate roughly $20k/month in net profit. Varma explains why purely taking a donation percentage attracts low-quality customers compared to full-suite SaaS.19:04–20:48 · Guest teaching 1/10 Customer Acquisition Cost and Payback Period Varma shares lead gen and AE-loaded CAC metrics yielding a 6 to 9 month payback period before answering Latka's standard closing rapid-fire questions.2:06–4:35 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Core Problem: Alumni Relations and Almabase's Solution Latka immediately drills into the monetization structure, separating pure SaaS ARR from transaction cuts. Varma clarifies contract sizes, explaining the tiered pricing across digital fundraising, events, and community products.4:36–7:24 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Origin Story and Pivot from India to the US Varma describes the founding journey and initial naive assumption about the Indian market before pivoting to the US. Latka tracks customer numbers and examines the impact of COVID-19 on churn versus new pipeline.7:26–10:09 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Kalyan's Pre-Almabase Career and Early Ventures Latka leverages Varma's Goldman Sachs background to push for a rigorous explanation of revenue-based financing from Lighter Capital. Varma lays out the 40% cap and monthly cash receipt repayment mechanics.10:12–13:15 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Sponsor Break: Fiverr Following the sponsor read, Latka presses Varma on how percentage tiers shift based on gross receipts and how RBF compares to traditional bank debt.13:15–16:05 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Revenue Milestones and the Value SaaS Philosophy Latka sets up a dichotomy between founders seeking flashy headlines versus building profitable equity, prompting Varma to explain his 'Value SaaS' philosophy. Varma also details sales team unit economics leveraging offshore staffing.16:05–19:04 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Financial Health, Cash Flow, and Professional Services Latka assumes raising debt implies net monthly burn, but Varma corrects him by revealing they cut costs during COVID and generate roughly $20k/month in net profit. Varma explains why purely taking a donation percentage attracts low-quality customers compared to full-suite SaaS.19:04–20:48 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Customer Acquisition Cost and Payback Period Varma shares lead gen and AE-loaded CAC metrics yielding a 6 to 9 month payback period before answering Latka's standard closing rapid-fire questions.2:06–4:35 · Nathan pushing back 3/10 The Core Problem: Alumni Relations and Almabase's Solution Latka immediately drills into the monetization structure, separating pure SaaS ARR from transaction cuts. Varma clarifies contract sizes, explaining the tiered pricing across digital fundraising, events, and community products.4:36–7:24 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Origin Story and Pivot from India to the US Varma describes the founding journey and initial naive assumption about the Indian market before pivoting to the US. Latka tracks customer numbers and examines the impact of COVID-19 on churn versus new pipeline.7:26–10:09 · Nathan pushing back 4/10 Kalyan's Pre-Almabase Career and Early Ventures Latka leverages Varma's Goldman Sachs background to push for a rigorous explanation of revenue-based financing from Lighter Capital. Varma lays out the 40% cap and monthly cash receipt repayment mechanics.10:12–13:15 · Nathan pushing back 4/10 Sponsor Break: Fiverr Following the sponsor read, Latka presses Varma on how percentage tiers shift based on gross receipts and how RBF compares to traditional bank debt.13:15–16:05 · Nathan pushing back 4/10 Revenue Milestones and the Value SaaS Philosophy Latka sets up a dichotomy between founders seeking flashy headlines versus building profitable equity, prompting Varma to explain his 'Value SaaS' philosophy. Varma also details sales team unit economics leveraging offshore staffing.16:05–19:04 · Nathan pushing back 4/10 Financial Health, Cash Flow, and Professional Services Latka assumes raising debt implies net monthly burn, but Varma corrects him by revealing they cut costs during COVID and generate roughly $20k/month in net profit. Varma explains why purely taking a donation percentage attracts low-quality customers compared to full-suite SaaS.19:04–20:48 · Nathan pushing back 1/10 Customer Acquisition Cost and Payback Period Varma shares lead gen and AE-loaded CAC metrics yielding a 6 to 9 month payback period before answering Latka's standard closing rapid-fire questions.

speaking balance: gold is Nathan, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:16 Rejecting pure transaction fee monetization

Varma firmly rejects Latka's suggestion to scale a transaction-cut model, arguing it attracts customer noise and detracts from their core end-to-end platform value.

Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 9:18 Challenging guest's financial explanation

Latka holds Varma to high standards based on his Goldman Sachs background, demanding an exact and crystal-clear explanation of revenue-based financing.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 16:05 Refuting the assumption of cash burn

Latka asserts that raising debt means the company must be burning cash each month, but Varma directly corrects him by detailing their cost reductions and $20k monthly profit.

Nathan holds their own ▶ 13:28 Demonstrating venture debt underwriting knowledge

Latka instantly maps Varma's $1.1m ARR to Lighter Capital's typical 3-4x MRR lending multiples, displaying deep familiarity with debt financing terms.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
The Core Problem: Alumni Relations and Almabase's Solution 5313 Latka immediately drills into the monetization structure, separating pure SaaS ARR from transaction cuts. Varma clarifies contract sizes, explaining the tiered pricing across digital fundraising, events, and community products.
Origin Story and Pivot from India to the US 4212 Varma describes the founding journey and initial naive assumption about the Indian market before pivoting to the US. Latka tracks customer numbers and examines the impact of COVID-19 on churn versus new pipeline.
Kalyan's Pre-Almabase Career and Early Ventures 6314 Latka leverages Varma's Goldman Sachs background to push for a rigorous explanation of revenue-based financing from Lighter Capital. Varma lays out the 40% cap and monthly cash receipt repayment mechanics.
Sponsor Break: Fiverr 6214 Following the sponsor read, Latka presses Varma on how percentage tiers shift based on gross receipts and how RBF compares to traditional bank debt.
Revenue Milestones and the Value SaaS Philosophy 6324 Latka sets up a dichotomy between founders seeking flashy headlines versus building profitable equity, prompting Varma to explain his 'Value SaaS' philosophy. Varma also details sales team unit economics leveraging offshore staffing.
Financial Health, Cash Flow, and Professional Services 5524 Latka assumes raising debt implies net monthly burn, but Varma corrects him by revealing they cut costs during COVID and generate roughly $20k/month in net profit. Varma explains why purely taking a donation percentage attracts low-quality customers compared to full-suite SaaS.
Customer Acquisition Cost and Payback Period 4101 Varma shares lead gen and AE-loaded CAC metrics yielding a 6 to 9 month payback period before answering Latka's standard closing rapid-fire questions.

Statements from this episode (22)

Disclosure
Almabase adds donation percentage cut to SaaS revenue model
“It's a SAS model primarily, but we've been recently over the last, I would say, 12 months or so, we've started making some revenue out of the cut of the donations as well.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 3:01
Disclosure
Almabase average contract value is $6,000 to $7,000 per year
“So, I mean, it ranges between, you know, I would say 4000 dollars a year for some of our products to somewhere like 15, 20,000 dollars a year for some of our products. But if I had to like just take an average across all of our customers, all of our paying cus…”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 3:19
Insight
Alumni relationships rely on loyalty, not true connection, says Almabase CEO
“The relationship between alumni and their alma mater is just based on loyalty and not like a true relationship, which is where we realized that this needs to get fixed”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 5:28
Assertion Supported
Almabase saturated top Indian universities before pivoting to the US
“We unfortunately did that for about three years sold to pretty much all of the top tier institutions in India. And then we were like, okay, where do we, So we have Bits Pilani, we have IIT Bombay, we have Pan IIT you know, Christ University, et cetera. So some…”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 6:03
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Almabase serves 240 institutions, with over 90% based in the US
“So today, in terms of paying customers, we have 240 institutions. A majority of them are in the U.S. About 90, 92% of them are in the U.S. Roughly a half and a half split between independent schools and higher education.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 6:35
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Almabase experienced zero customer churn during the COVID-19 pandemic
“Our existing customers have, there's been no churn at all.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 6:57
Disclosure
Almabase raised $500,000 in equity funding between 2014 and 2017
“The total money we've raised is about 500 K during that time.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 8:40
Disclosure
Almabase raised $250,000 in revenue-based debt from Lighter Capital
“We raised, I think two 50 K in debt so far from lighter capital.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 8:56
Disclosure
Almabase repays 1.4x cap over three years for revenue-based financing
“So we are doing it at 40% you know, over three years. So for example, if we raise a hundred K, we're repaying 140 K and the way the repayment works is it's a cut or it's a percentage of monthly cash receipt, right?”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 9:43
Disclosure
Almabase's revenue-based debt takes 9% of its early cash receipts
“I think they basically put a cap in terms of for the first, I think, million dollars per year in cash receipts. It's about nine percent, if I remember correctly. And then between, from anywhere over one million to, I think, 1.5 or two million, it's five percen…”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 11:38
Disclosure
Bank of America's $50K debt cap pushed Almabase to revenue-based financing
“We did, I think, talk to a bank and bank of America is our banker. We did talk to them, but there was lots of complications. And also they said, we can give you a maximum of 40 K, 50 K, something like that, which wasn't sufficient at the point that we raised. …”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 12:59
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Almabase reaches $1.1 million ARR and over $90,000 MRR
“So we're, in terms of ARR, we're about 1.1, close to 1.1 million. So 90, 91, 92, something like that in terms of MRR.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 13:19
Disclosure
Almabase plans to avoid massive VC rounds in favor of debt
“We're certainly going to be not going to be type A, which is like raise tons of money and hopefully get there. But yeah, we're more of, I mean, at this point, money is not really our bottleneck. There's A few things that we're solving for, but whenever money i…”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 14:24
Disclosure
Almabase operates with a total team size of 25 people
“So we're 25 people totally.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 15:12
What-if
Almabase's pricing model would fail if built entirely in San Francisco
“If I were to build this team entirely in, let's say the San Francisco Bay area, it's never going to work out with that, that kind of price point.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 15:51
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Almabase operates with a $65,000 to $70,000 monthly spend
“Our current monthly spend is about 65 to 70 K per month.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 16:23
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Almabase generates over $20,000 in monthly net profit
“Yeah, a little over that. I mean, because one is the, I mean, we spoke about sort of the recurring revenue, but we also have other sources of revenue, which is, like I said, a little bit of transaction charges.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 16:32
Disclosure
Almabase projects $100,000 to $150,000 in setup fees for 2020
“So roughly right now, for example, this year we're projecting that to be about a hundred and a 150 K in terms of like one time, obviously that's not going to record next year, unless we get new customers.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 17:00
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Almabase processed over $2 million in donations on Giving Tuesday 2020
“And on that day, I think we processed a little over two million dollars in terms of donations for our customers.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 17:59
Opinion
Transaction-fee-only pricing attracts low-value, noisy SaaS customers, says CEO
“I don't really see a lot of value in just saying, just pay as a cut because we're going to law, we're going to get a lot of, you know noise in terms of the kind of customers that we attract. We want to be really focused on the kind of customers that, that it m…”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 18:47
Disclosure
Almabase averages $3,500 to $4,000 total CAC per new customer
“I think our CAC from a lead gen perspective is obviously different for different channels, but I think it averages out to about 1500 to 2000 dollars per customer in terms of lead gen. And then if I add the cost of the account executive as well, including salar…”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 19:09
Disclosure
Almabase operates with a CAC payback period of six to nine months
“So yeah, the payback that we look at is somewhere between six to nine months in terms of payback.”
Kalyan Varma Nov 18, 2020 ▶ 19:34
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