SaaS

also referred to as: software as a service

51 statements across 38 episodes · 37 bullish · 5 bearish · 18 people on the record · first statement Nov 16, 2023 by Nathan Barry · across every show →

Everything said about SaaS, oldest first

Nov 16, 2023 bullish
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Barry: A Growing $10M ARR Software Company Is Worth Over $50M
“A software company doing ten million a year in revenue is worth more than fifty million dollars, right? If it's growing, growing well.”
Nathan Barry Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 38:24 How To Make Money As A Creator | Nathan Barry (ConvertKit)
Nov 30, 2023 positive
Insight
Founders should separate reliable revenue businesses from an experimental personal brand
“Maybe one answer could be to sort of build a personal brand where your brand is built around trying a lot of different things. Like Sam is trying out custom GPTs this week and AI avatars next week. He's actually building this quote unquote boring sass on the s…”
Dru Riley Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 35:33 How To Make MILLIONS As A Faceless YouTuber | Dru Riley
Dec 14, 2023 bullish
Insight
Ries: AI lets non-tech businesses bypass the SaaS deployment era entirely
“Once you know the technology well enough to be able to predict the effects it will have on a given business, then it's just very clear that we're living in a time of tremendous arbitrage where tech non-enabled businesses can become quickly AI-enabled. Skip, in…”
Eric Ries Dec 14, 2023 ▶ 12:42 The Biggest Startup Opportunities In 2024 | Eric Ries (The Lean Startup)
Jan 11, 2024 bullish
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Karnjanaprakorn: 2024 will bring an M&A wave for $100K–$10M digital businesses
“And I think 20, 24 will be digital businesses. So SAS content software apps. I think that range between a hundred K and ten million in revenue, I think it's going to be a huge act like a huge M and a activity. I think we'll, we'll see a lot more of that in 20,…”
Michael Karnjanaprakorn Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 18:39 $1M Startup Trends For 2024, With Michael Karnjanaprakorn
Jan 18, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Isenberg: Software is shifting from subscriptions to pay-per-task pricing
“Where I think things are going is it's going to be pay per Task.”
Greg Isenberg Jan 18, 2024 ▶ 30:16 How To Make $10 MILLION from scratch
Mar 8, 2024 bullish
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Siu: Voice AI agents will eventually close SaaS deals autonomously
“It'll probably get to a point where eventually it can just close the customer too, especially if it's SaaS or help a customer or try to set up phone calls to move over to your AEs.”
Eric Siu Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 6:17 I can't believe he gave away these GENIUS 3 AI startup ideas (watch this)
May 27, 2024 bullish
Insight
Schneider: Seeding SaaS Influencers Triggers Free Affiliate Reviews from Smaller Creators
“Once you get enough influencers talking about your product in this category, Then you'll start to see that up and coming influencers that are trying to build within that space will also review that product for you for free without paying them. All they're doin…”
Cody Schneider May 27, 2024 ▶ 24:48 I can't believe he gave away these GENIUS 7 profitable startup ideas (watch this)
Aug 5, 2024
Insight
Postma advises founders to build productized service layers over raw AI software
“Like everyone is using software and SaaS now, but You have to remember these people using the software, like they don't know anything. So you need to productize the extra layer on top of it.”
Danny Postma Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 36:29 5 $1M+ AI startup ideas from an indie hacker legend
Oct 21, 2024 negative
Opinion
Rush: Starting with SaaS as a first product is the worst idea
“Starting with SAS is is it, is the worst idea because you will fail almost a hundred percent and then you'll probably feel bad about that and never start again and go back to your job.”
John Rush Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 46:36 Do this to build a $200,000 side hustle (The Online Directory Blueprint)
Oct 21, 2024
Insight
John Rush: Winning SEO traffic for SaaS is much harder than directories
“It is much harder to win SEO traffic for a SAS tool than for a directory.”
John Rush Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 39:45 Do this to build a $200,000 side hustle (The Online Directory Blueprint)
Nov 18, 2024 positive
Insight
Isenberg: Niche publications serve as wedges for vertical SaaS
“Another reason I really like this idea and people who listen to the pod know this about me is it's a wedge that could evolve into something else. So If you build the horse publication, personal publication, Step one, and it starts taking off. Step two could ea…”
Greg Isenberg Nov 18, 2024 ▶ 45:13 3 $1M+ AI startup ideas to build in 2025 (and how to grow them)
Nov 27, 2024 positive
Insight
Courtney: SaaS Companies Should Push Discounted Renewals During Black Friday
“If you're running some sort of digital product, some sort of SaaS thing this is the time of year where you can push people on some sort of nice, juicy renewal plan.”
Jonathan Courtney Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 7:30 How This Guy Makes His Entire Year's Revenue in Black Friday WEEK
Dec 23, 2024 positive
Insight
Dalen: Continuous cash flow makes $499 monthly DTC SaaS pricing easy
“When you think about D to C, there's always money flowing every month. Like as long as the business exists, there's money flowing. So, so to justify a 499 dollars a month subscription within that, like flow of money is so easy to figure out as long as you solv…”
Daniel Dalen Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 49:11 pov: brainstorming $1M+ startup ideas with Daniel Dalen
Feb 3, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Isenberg: Long-Form-to-Meme SaaS Is a $10M+ Annual Business
“If someone ends up building this is like a, you know, a ten million dollar a year plus SaaS business.”
Greg Isenberg Feb 3, 2025 ▶ 36:21 4 microSaaS ideas you can build to make $100k/month
Feb 12, 2025 bullish
Insight
Isenberg: Build SaaS on top of directories to capture SaaS valuation multiples
“I think people are monetizing directories wrong. Like they're just putting AdSense. We saw one example of someone literally selling a book. The opportunity is actually to build software on top of these directories. So you use directories to get the traffic. Yo…”
Greg Isenberg Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 10:36 I built a Cash Flowing Online Directory in 54 minutes (using Ahrefs and WordPress)
Feb 19, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Isenberg: Usage-based pricing tiers are the future of SaaS
“I wish it would have said, like, you should do usage-based tiers, because that's the future of SaaS.”
Greg Isenberg Feb 19, 2025 ▶ 23:51 ChatGPT Pro ($200/month ) vs Perplexity AI (Free): Building a $5M Startup from Scratch
Feb 24, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Isenberg: Software is shifting from SaaS subscriptions to pay-per-use pricing
“So one of the things I've been noticing in software land at least is there's this shift from software as a service to pay per use.”
Greg Isenberg Feb 24, 2025 ▶ 46:32 Ex-Google Guy's Framework for Building a $1M AI GPT Wrapper Startup (Design Sprint)
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Isenberg: Traditional SaaS is imploding, creating opportunities for AI coding platforms
“Because SaaS is kind of imploding, and there's just a lot of opportunity to go and use platforms like Bolt, Lovable, Cursor Replit and start building audiences, marrying that software together and start building businesses.”
Greg Isenberg Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 0:54 How I find $130K/month AI SaaS Opportunities hiding in plain sight
Mar 21, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Howell: Solo developers can easily earn $5K-$10K monthly on Upwork
“I would say, like, solo dolo I think you could easily clear Five, 10 K a month, just without any outside help. definitely building apps, but even just like if you consult on the right kind of product projects surrounding like a specific SAS.”
Billy Howell Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 24:45 He makes $750 a day 'Vibe Coding' Apps (using Replit, ChatGPT, Upwork)
Mar 21, 2025 positive
Insight
Howell: Pitch custom AI apps to replace clients' most expensive SaaS
“So I think what you can do if you're like an entrepreneur trying to do this is like, Build like one or two apps, like probably more than that, like get good at it. Like I made like 40. And then just call business owners and be like, what's the most annoying th…”
Billy Howell Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 28:13 He makes $750 a day 'Vibe Coding' Apps (using Replit, ChatGPT, Upwork)
May 5, 2025
Insight
Isenberg: Build an audience first so they dictate what product to build
“Step, step zero, build an audience. Then figure out what something to build is, and actually how you figure out, ah, how you build something is you start teasing things with your audience, and they're gonna tell you what to build.”
Greg Isenberg May 5, 2025 ▶ 2:24 How to build SaaS App in a weekend using AI (Steal This)
Aug 4, 2025 neutral
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James: Technical PageSpeed Fixes Win Local SEO but Fail in Competitive SaaS
“In a not very competitive market, these types of things can make a big difference. If you're in a very crowded market with, you know, very sophisticated websites, like you're in a hyper-competitive SaaS market, just optimizing your page speed insights probably…”
James (The Boring Marketer) Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 21:23 How Claude Code Ranked Me FIRST on Google (It's OVER for SEO Agencies)
Aug 4, 2025 bullish
Opinion
James: AI for local service businesses is a multi-billion dollar arbitrage opportunity
“Everyone's building like agents and workflows and wrappers and SaaS tools, but I feel like everyone's ignoring like businesses in their backyard. So I want to talk about what I think is like a multi-billion dollar arbitrage opportunity to build a local service…”
James (The Boring Marketer) Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 1:00 How Claude Code Ranked Me FIRST on Google (It's OVER for SEO Agencies)
Aug 7, 2025 positive
Insight
Isenberg: AI agents are turning traditional service jobs into software products
“For the first time ever, services are becoming software. It used to be software as a service, SaaS. But now with AI agents actually having the ability to fulfill the service. So let's say instead of hiring a social media manager, you're hiring an AI agent that…”
Greg Isenberg Aug 7, 2025 ▶ 7:43 Making $$$ with Sam Altman's Solopreneurship Thesis with GPT5
Aug 30, 2025 neutral
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Isenberg: Only around 100 hooks exist for short-form SaaS video ads
“By the way, there's only, like, a hundred hooks that exist. In short form videos. Especially for SaaS.”
Greg Isenberg Aug 30, 2025 ▶ 34:44 Using Google Ads, Heygen AI, Perplexity to make you $$$
Sep 19, 2025 positive
Opinion
James: Starting boring local businesses is an overlooked opportunity versus SaaS
“I think that this is a very overlooked opportunity. Everyone's trying to create a sexy sass, and I want them to kind of look in their backyard for opportunities that can get them going.”
James (The Boring Marketer) Sep 19, 2025 ▶ 1:34 My AI agents scrape Google Maps to make $$ in BORING businesses
Oct 4, 2025 bullish
Insight
Viral Sora 2 videos give software startups an unfair distribution advantage
“Because if you're able to create viral videos using Sora too, then you're going to be able to own a lot of attention. If you have a lot of attention, you'll be able to create startup ideas that sell to that attention. Consumer mobile apps, SaaS products, micro…”
Greg Isenberg Oct 4, 2025 ▶ 1:10 How I'd use Sora 2 + Claude to hit 1M+ views on AI videos
Oct 4, 2025 positive
Opinion
SaaS mistake and revenue milestone hooks drive viral video engagement
“My ADK SAS mistake in 23 seconds. Like, these are things that would go viral. POV, you just got your first dollar on Stripe. Cloned a hundred million dollars SAS in four days using these three tools. It's legal. Your SAS onboarding has a fourteen-second proble…”
Greg Isenberg Oct 4, 2025 ▶ 8:55 How I'd use Sora 2 + Claude to hit 1M+ views on AI videos
Nov 13, 2025 positive
Insight
Isenberg: SaaS growth succeeds best with creators under 120k followers
“I think where you're probably going to have the most success is in your smaller creators. So we're talking people with a hundred and 20,000 and followers across platforms and less.”
Greg Isenberg Nov 13, 2025 ▶ 12:53 Startup idea someone should steal
Nov 13, 2025 positive
Insight
Isenberg: Early SaaS should offer creators 30% to 50% lifetime affiliate cuts
“Step two is you want to generate attach a generous affiliate percentage. I'm not talking about 10%, 20%. I'm talking about 30 to 50%, especially in the initial days. Give it to them lifetime. Like, you want to get these people on board.”
Greg Isenberg Nov 13, 2025 ▶ 13:57 Startup idea someone should steal
Dec 8, 2025 negative
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Hoffman: Paid ads cannot profitably scale SaaS priced under $1,000/month
“If you want to use ads to scale your SaaS, you can't do it with a low ticket offer. And when I say low ticket, I basically mean anything that is below a thousand dollars per month. If your SaaS is 50 dollars a month, a hundred dollars a month, this probably wi…”
Rob Hoffman Dec 8, 2025 ▶ 50:54 Blueprint to Build a $1M SaaS From Scratch
Dec 8, 2025 positive
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Hoffman: Monetize viral SaaS tools through ads, not subscriptions
“Because this is an attention play, where you're leveraging attention, you are creating a product that is inherently viral and shareable, what's going to happen is that the amount of attention that you get for this tool is going to far outweigh the people who a…”
Rob Hoffman Dec 8, 2025 ▶ 24:52 Blueprint to Build a $1M SaaS From Scratch
Feb 16, 2026 positive
Insight
Frey Chu: Pairing directories with vertical SaaS or agencies is highly effective
“I still believe that building a directory and creating a micro SAS or vertical SAS is a super solid way to go about it. And with cloud code, it's never been easier. But the agency directory combo is a potent one and I see it all the time. Some of the biggest d…”
Frey Chu Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 5:13 Claude Code built me a $273/Day online directory
Feb 18, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Isenberg: Really big AI agent winners will emerge within three months
“Like over, you're going to see over the next two to three months, like some really big winners. And you're going to start to see it work.”
Greg Isenberg Feb 18, 2026 ▶ 41:32 Making $$$ with OpenClaw
Mar 2, 2026 negative
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Isenberg: SaaS UIs are becoming nice-to-haves compared to agentic LLM workflows
“But now when you're living in a terminal, for example, and you're using MCPs to talk to LLMs you kinda, you know, the nice to have is actually the UI. The nice to have is the SaaS. The nice to have is going to this website and look pretty. Ultimately what you …”
Greg Isenberg Mar 2, 2026 ▶ 49:21 Claude Code & MCPs built my $145K marketing machine
Mar 4, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Isenberg: It has never been cheaper or better to build SaaS
“This is the greatest time ever to building SaaS. I mean, no other time in history has it been this cheap to be able to build SaaS, build audiences around it, get it to people who have billions of billions of dollars of spending power who want to buy your produ…”
Greg Isenberg Mar 4, 2026 ▶ 0:02 SaaS is minting millionaires again (here's how)
Mar 4, 2026 positive
Insight
Isenberg: Software founders must build media around a single focused channel
“You're going to not just want to create a product, my friends. No, no, no, no, no. You're going to want to create media. You're going to go on ahead and, you know, create an Instagram, create a TikTok, create an X, pick one channel that you're going to focus o…”
Greg Isenberg Mar 4, 2026 ▶ 6:42 SaaS is minting millionaires again (here's how)
Mar 4, 2026 negative
Insight
Isenberg: Cash-flowing SaaS startups should target sub-niches, avoiding venture-backed broad markets
“Don't make the, don't make a mistake of trying to build something for a huge market because that's where the venture boys are playing. This is for the people who want to build a cash flowing startup that, you know, maybe they want, it could raise venture later…”
Greg Isenberg Mar 4, 2026 ▶ 1:58 SaaS is minting millionaires again (here's how)
Mar 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Henry: Local Agent Skills Eliminate Traditional SaaS Hosting Costs
“You can build SAS products as full skills. Now you no longer have to pay for hosting. You no longer have to pay for a domain. You no longer have to pay for storage, handle authentication. You can download Products locally, and the whole, ah, look at what I bui…”
Oliver Henry Mar 9, 2026 ▶ 28:46 I gave OpenClaw one job: go viral (it worked?)
Mar 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Isenberg: Software is shifting from SaaS automation tools to AI employees
“Shift that's happening right now that instead of basically going to a tool to automate a function, you say to yourself, okay, if this was an AI employee, how can I spin this up?”
Greg Isenberg Mar 9, 2026 ▶ 7:47 I gave OpenClaw one job: go viral (it worked?)
Mar 11, 2026 positive
Insight
SaaS products can embed AutoResearch loops as enterprise tier upsells
“So if you already have built a SaaS or workflow, embed an auto research style agent so your users can press optimize, just like a big, I envision like a big button that just says optimize, and the system runs a mini research loop for them. So for example, tune…”
Greg Isenberg Mar 11, 2026 ▶ 9:48 Karpathy's "autoresearch" broke the internet
May 11, 2026 neutral
Insight
Isenberg: 'Agents as new SaaS' means shifting from per-seat to outcome pricing
“This is when people say, you know, agents are the new SaaS. What do they mean by that? They mean, you know, you're selling an agent with an outcome, you know, moving from a per seat model to an outcome based model”
Greg Isenberg May 11, 2026 ▶ 23:35 Screensharing How to Start an AI Agent Business Today
Jun 11, 2026 bullish
Insight
Isenberg: Fable 5 enables cheap SaaS acquisitions, refactoring, and flips
“There's an opportunity Especially now with Fable Five to actually go buy things for not a lot of money, kind of flip it you know, or renovate it, maybe flip it or just keep it for profit and cash flow.”
Greg Isenberg Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 19:53 Claude Fable 5 is BACK
Jun 25, 2026
Insight
Isenberg: As AI commoditizes product creation, demand generation becomes the bottleneck
“In an AI world, we all know building products are, you know, is really easy. Building demand is just getting more and more important. So when anyone can ship a landing page or an app, You know, or build a SaaS. The bottle, the bottleneck moves to the question …”
Greg Isenberg Jun 25, 2026 ▶ 5:23 "Learn AI” Is Bad Advice. Learn This Instead
Jul 1, 2026 positive
Insight
Isenberg: Target AI agents at workflows with existing payroll or agency spend
“If people are already paying for the work, they're paying an employee, they're paying an agency, a receptionist, a coordinator, dispatcher, they, there's an opportunity to sell that service cheaper And then unload some of that work that that person is doing to…”
Greg Isenberg Jul 1, 2026 ▶ 4:23 AI Agents are the new SaaS
Jul 1, 2026 neutral
Insight
Isenberg: Traditional SaaS sells tools while agent SaaS sells completed work
“SaaS sells software. Agent SaaS sells work. A normal SaaS product says, here is a tool a team could use basically. But an agent SaaS product will say, here is a job your team no longer has to do by hand.”
Greg Isenberg Jul 1, 2026 ▶ 1:44 AI Agents are the new SaaS
Jul 1, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Isenberg: AI agents are the new SaaS because software now executes work
“I think agents are the new SaaS because software is moving from help me do the work to do the work with me.”
Greg Isenberg Jul 1, 2026 ▶ 24:16 AI Agents are the new SaaS
Jul 1, 2026 bullish
Insight
Isenberg: AI agent TAM is larger than SaaS because it replaces labor
“Labor is a multi-trillion dollar market, right? So I think why people say agents is bigger than SaaS is because the total addressable market for agents is just way bigger. You know, it's human capital.”
Greg Isenberg Jul 1, 2026 ▶ 0:52 AI Agents are the new SaaS
Jul 9, 2026 bullish
Insight
Shipper: Agent-native SaaS restores traditional software margins without token costs
“In this world, you're just a SaaS provider. You're just hosting software. So there's no token costs. And so your margins are back to being like regular, a regular software business instead of being an AI business, which I think is great.”
Dan Shipper Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 27:12 GPT 5.6 SOL IS HERE! How to use it.
Jul 9, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Dan Shipper: 'SaaS-pocalypse' is dumb; 99% will prefer maintained software
“I think the SaaS-pocalypse is so dumb because Hey, yeah, I'm like vibe coding this inbox app, but 99% of the world is going to want to use something that's maintained by someone else. Yes, you can one shot everything, but the I think the hard rare thing is mov…”
Dan Shipper Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 12:21 GPT 5.6 SOL IS HERE! How to use it.
Aug 12, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Miller: Mediocre software is dead in several years
“I think mediocre software is dead in several years, and the reason that I think it's actually a longer timeline than most people are predicting is because of what I shared about, like, how often people are actually using this stuff.”
Ali K. Miller Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 30:35 My top secrets to running an AI Agent Workforce
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