Dan Shipper discusses AI coding agents and rejects the 'SaaS-pocalypse' thesis, arguing that long-term software maintenance remains too difficult for most users to handle themselves.
“I think the SaaS-pocalypse is so dumb because Hey, yeah, I'm like vibe coding this inbox app, but 99% of the world is going to want to use something that's maintained by someone else. Yes, you can one shot everything, but the I think the hard rare thing is moving to can you build and maintain something over time? And that's still expensive and hard.”
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