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Biden administration delayed Starliner rescue to deny Elon Musk a political win
“The Biden administration clearly turned that down because they didn't want to give SpaceX a political, an Elon, a political win against Boeing in the midst of the, you know, campaign was campaigning for Trump.”
Johnston: SpaceX will reach a $10 trillion valuation within years
“My hottest take right now is that the SpaceX IPO is the, gonna be viewed historically as the most undervalued IPO of all time. I think they will tear through 10 trillion within, you know, certainly within the next couple of years, and then have almost unlimite…”
Fishner-Wolfson claims SpaceX was the only good space investment in 20 years
“We looked at probably every SpaceX, or every space investment for, I don't know, 1520 years, and the good investment was SpaceX, and I think a lot of people thought, well, we should go invest in all these other things, and the answer is, you should invest in S…”
Fishner-Wolfson claims OpenAI and Anthropic have confidentially filed S-1s
“SpaceX is the big one to kind of start this, but, I mean, as you mentioned, like, OpenAI and Anthropic are both valid. They're S-one's confidentially, so it's gonna be a pretty interesting, you know, few quarters in the public markets.”
Maguire: Space-based data centers will become absolutely giant
“The public doesn't yet Like, the public hasn't yet gotten to see the full argument, like, hasn't gotten to see the math, but I'll just say, like, I think the math is really compelling, and I think data centers in space are, and I was on TBPN maybe six months a…”
Only Anduril, Palantir, and SpaceX have delivered defense tech at scale
“Other than those three, there isn't really, like, a, like, unicorn VC-backed company that, like, has actually delivered things at scale for the Warfighter that doesn't really exist.”
Mendler: Comms customers need more reliability than a SpaceX architecture offers
“They are, they're monetizing bits and the customers that are buying their bits are the ones that need more reliability and flexibility than maybe like SpaceX driven architecture.”
Venner: A six-person team with AI can match 175 SpaceX engineers
“I don't really think it's going to scale much more than maybe one or two more people, and I think I'll be able to do exactly what I did at SpaceX with only six, because AI,
It drives most of what we're doing, and AI is now starting to enable things we weren't …”
Venner: SpaceX's 'responsible engineer' framework eliminated handoffs and finger-pointing
“The whole concept of a responsible engineer is what I learned there, and that person owned that part from first requirements all the way through to post-flight. There were no handoffs. There's no finger pointing. Either you got it done or you are no longer emp…”
Venner: Six AI-assisted engineers can replicate a 175-person SpaceX software team
“I've got a team of six here. I don't really think it's going to scale much more than maybe one or two more people. And I think I'll be able to do exactly what I did at SpaceX with only six because AI drives most of what we're doing and AI is now starting to en…”
Romo: Moving fast in hardware requires insourcing component development
“If you want to move quickly, you absolutely must insource a lot of the development. You must build your own components. You must take as much internally as you can”
Maguire: SpaceX IPO will boost private AI companies through liquidity
“I think the SpaceX IPO will actually help all private companies this year, including the AI companies, just because it creates a lot of liquidity, and it draws a lot of capital, you know, into tech, and, you know, people are gonna, like, it's, it will just cre…”
Maguire: SpaceX IPO will be the healthiest wealth creation event in history
“I think this is, I really do think this is, I think this is the healthiest wealth creation event in history.”
Maguire: SpaceX IPO wealth will not degrade employee culture or motivation
“I don't, I think that in most companies, it's kind of destroyed the culture. I don't think that's going to be the case at SpaceX because SpaceX is such a mission-oriented company, and as I was saying before, the next five years and then five years after that h…”
Maguire: SpaceX Starship will fly reliably and reusably in 2026
“I think Elon and the company have gained a lot of confidence that Starship is going to be flying like reliably and reusable this year in 20, 26. Like that's my strong sense.”
Wright: Space Data Centers Are Inevitable to Power Lunar and Martian Bases
“This is actually a debate that we have in terms of how soon it's going to happen, but it's definitely going to happen. Data centers in space is coming, and it makes sense, right? If you think about and you know, a lot of this is public, but what SpaceX is talk…”
Stephens: Defense primes ignore startups until market share is threatened
“I think like broadly across the defense industry this is a pattern that you saw happen with both Palantir and SpaceX as well, is that the big players, the primes, they don't really pay attention at all until their lunch is being eaten. And then the moment they…”
Gil: Marquee companies like Stripe and SpaceX may stay forever private
“There may be a subset of companies that are forever private, because they can afford to be. That may be Stripe, that may be SpaceX, that may be some other companies.”
Vance: SpaceX has lapped Blue Origin for 20 years, taking over rockets
“The difference between SpaceX and something like Blue Origin that started about the same time you know, I think Blue Origin's, like, coming on now, but they've had 20 years where SpaceX has just been lapping them, it's, like, taken over the entire rocket busin…”
Power: There will not be more SpaceXs or new defense primes
“I don't think there's going to be more SpaceX's. I don't think there's going to be more Andrews, you know, of like new defense primes or neo primes, and I don't think there's going to be more than a handful of large industrials companies.”
Moore: Frontier tech companies are growing 100% at multi-billion-dollar run rates
“I mean, these companies are compounding it over a hundred percent year over year in the billions of run rate. We have never seen that before, right?”
Schendel: The energy industry lacks a disruptive equivalent to SpaceX or Anduril
“I think the energy industry is actually in a pretty similar spot That the aerospace industry or the defense industry was in, in, in the last decade. The difference is that the energy industry doesn't have a SpaceX and it doesn't have an Android role. And we st…”
Asparouhov: NASA paid SpaceX half of Boeing's price for identical workload
“The entire structure of the contract is kind of insane in that they literally just, you know, gave SpaceX the same workload, but said the price for you doing it is going to be half of Boeing.”
Asparouhov: SpaceX is already the next-generation space defense prime
“The next generation space defense prime is SpaceX. They're the largest space defense prime. They have the largest contracts in that field. They are the long tail winner.”
Mark Suster calls Anduril the most important private company besides SpaceX
“So you look recently at Anduril, probably the most important company In the private markets behind SpaceX.”
Power: Pursuing 100% manufacturing automation creates inflexible systems and is a bad idea
“And we are never going to be like fully, fully automated. Cause like Tesla tried to do this. SpaceX tried to do this. It's just like a bad idea. Cause you build this inflexible system. It's just super brittle.”
Desai: Space-based data centers are physically possible and could succeed
“So physics-wise, at least from what I have read, It seems like it is, there is a non-zero chance of it succeeding, meaning it will succeed once you put enough attention, resources, focus on it, and like we saw some of the frontier labs, you saw that SpaceX sai…”
Venner: SpaceX responsible engineers own hardware from requirement to post-flight
“The whole concept of a responsible engineer is what I learned there, and that person owned that part from first requirements all the way through to post-flight. There were no handoffs. There was no finger pointing. Either you got it done, or you are no longer …”
Mathew: Elon Musk is reserving 30% of the SpaceX IPO for retail
“And so Elon reserving 30% of the SpaceX IPO for retail investors, I think is a really great thing.”
Armstrong: Coinbase saw strong volume on SpaceX pre-IPO perps
“So we launched with SpaceX, A few weeks ago before they went public, and we saw quite a lot of volume on there.”
Offsetting capital gains with jet depreciation creates an expensive tax trap
“Recapture is always taxed at ordinary income rates. So if you buy an airplane, And try to offset capital gains, right? Which is like, well, let's say your SpaceX shares, and then you sell it five years later and you recapture at ordinary income, you're essenti…”
Traditional private jet tax write-offs fail for tech equity holders, says Slotowicz
“Unless you have an operating business to run it through, you're There aren't really any tax benefits. If you're like a SpaceX employee and you have a lot of stock, right? You're not, you don't have a business to run this airplane through. So not only are you p…”
Fishner-Wolfson says SpaceX equity creates life-changing wealth for shop-floor workers
“They've really shared equity across the entire company, which is incredible. And to your point, they have lots of people on the shop floor who literally make all of the stuff that matters. So the fact that this is life changing for so many people, I really thi…”
Fishner-Wolfson notes SpaceX's launch business has been profitable for years
“Well, I mean, they were, I mean, they were profitable for a very long time, and the launch business was, I mean, they were doing things that no one in the industry had accomplished, right?”
Singerman admits Founders Fund would not exist if SpaceX had failed
“If SpaceX didn't work, Founders Fund would not exist. Like, we bet our careers, essentially, on SpaceX”
Singerman says only Elon Musk could have successfully built SpaceX
“When I did get to meet Elon and learn more about SpaceX, it was extremely clear That there was nobody else like him on the planet who could actually pull something like SpaceX off”
SpaceX's Merlin is the most reliable, highest thrust-to-weight engine ever
“My, probably my proudest development was the Merlin engine, which is currently flying on Falcon nine, the most reliable rocket engine ever developed, and also the highest thrust of weight of any rocket engine ever developed.”
Rocket engines take three major iterations to become mature products
“And I always said it took three versions of Merlin to get it to be really tight. And it took three versions also of Raptor. I always say it takes really three, three iterations to get to a really, really tight product and Raptor's there.”
Mueller says launch is solved; in-space transport is the next frontier
“Launch mostly being solved or is being solved. It's like the next big opportunity is to move all that payload, all that cargo around in space. So I started impulse space to do in space transportation as opposed to from earth to space transportation, which was …”
Rangwalla: SpaceX reached a $1.25T valuation in xAI transaction
“SpaceX is most recent, you know, when they did the transaction with XAI was 1.25 trillion dollars.”
Immerman: Larry Page will be the world's second trillionaire
“Would probably put my money today on Larry Page quarter trillion. Google, Google, or should say Alphabet has like woken up. They own, you know, close to a hundred percent of search. They own a hundred percent of deep mind. They own like mid teens percentage of…”
Laffont: Top AI and tech unicorns will likely IPO within 24 months
“You know, some of them will probably go public in the next 12 to 24 months, so that'll be kind of one impact of it”
Maguire: SpaceX will deliver major direct-to-cell service by 2028
“And then I think in roughly twenty-twenty-eight, it's gonna be the year of direct to sell, and SpaceX talked about this publicly, but it's gonna take time, you know, they just acquired a bunch of spectrum, it takes time to get, you know, Antennas and phones op…”
Maguire: SpaceX is the greatest company of all time
“Look, I personally believe SpaceX is the greatest company of all time. I think the company is just getting started. I, and I have many other great portfolio companies, but I'm willing to say SpaceX is on a different level of every company.”
Maguire: Direct-to-cell will probably surpass Starlink consumer internet in five years
“And when we go like five years from now, all of my underwriting is, I think direct to sell will be probably even bigger than the original consumer internet business.”
Maguire: SpaceX is likely the most vertically integrated US manufacturer
“Like, I think it's probably, probably the most vertically integrated American manufacturing company. And like, when you're vertically integrated, it just lets you move with like a speed and flexibility that No one else has outside of China.”
Maguire: Starlink scaled to a $1B run rate within 12 months
“And then after Starlink got to about a billion of revenue, which was very fast, it was about 12 months after they got their first dollar of revenue, they were at about a billion of run rate,”
Maguire: SpaceX will have excess launch capacity by 2028-2029
“And very quickly, like within two years or so, I think the company is basically going to have an excess Capacity. Like, they could launch all the just Starlink data satellites. They wanted all the direct-to-sell satellites they wanted, and they'd probably stil…”