Sep 13, 2024 · 45m · sourcery

Zamp's Series A: $14M in 15 Months · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea

Rohit Badangay · 33m spoken Molly O'Shea · 5m spoken
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In this episode of Sourcery, host Molly O'Shea interviews Rohit Badangay, Founder and CEO of Zamp, discussing how the startup achieved 6x year-over-year revenue growth, raised a $10M preempted Series A, and built an automated sales tax compliance platform for e-commerce and SaaS businesses.

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Molly as informed peer 3.1 Guest teaching 3.7 Guest disagreement 1.5 Molly pushing back 1.1
05100:0015:0030:0045:001:55–5:05 · Molly as informed peer 3/10 Zamp's $10M Series A Round & Preemptive Fundraising Molly kicks off the conversation politely asking about the mechanics and lead of the Series A round. Rohit provides a comprehensive narrative on preemptive terms and the current tough fundraising climate.5:05–7:19 · Molly as informed peer 4/10 Existing Investor Strategy & Partnering with Valor Equity Partners Molly demonstrates familiarity with venture funds and noteable investors like Day One and Soma Capital. Rohit explains how Valor's multi-stage checks and operational support made them a natural fit.7:19–14:41 · Molly as informed peer 2/10 Origin Story: From Finance to Uncovering the Sales Tax Opportunity Rohit details the origin story of discovering sales tax compliance gaps in portfolio companies while at Pareto, schooling the audience and host on the duopoly of Avalara and TaxJar. Molly offers an offhand remark about VCs falling into VC, which Rohit briefly questions.14:41–20:33 · Molly as informed peer 2/10 Sponsor Announcement: Archer eVTOL Air Taxis After an ad break, Molly asks how large the sales tax problem is, and Rohit gives an in-depth breakdown of the 2018 South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision that transformed ecommerce tax obligations.20:33–23:10 · Molly as informed peer 4/10 Ideal Customer Profile & Key Clients Molly playfully teases Rohit for not using social media when he admits not knowing Cult Gaia was a major brand, showing her own domain familiarity in consumer retail.23:10–27:17 · Molly as informed peer 3/10 Go-To-Market Strategy: Inbound Education & Partner Channels Rohit explains how inbound education and strategic accounting partnerships drive their customer acquisition with rapid onboarding times compared to legacy providers.27:17–31:18 · Molly as informed peer 3/10 Zamp's Team Composition & Domain Expertise Rohit discusses staffing across revenue, engineering, and tax compliance, reiterating growth metrics and achieving mid-seven figures ARR in 15 months.31:18–33:21 · Molly as informed peer 4/10 Business Model & Subscription Pricing Molly jokingly asks if Zamp charges a fee on every tax dollar processed. Rohit confirms that competitors actually do that and calls the practice bonkers, validating Molly's intuition.33:21–38:31 · Molly as informed peer 3/10 Acquiring the Zamp.com Domain Name Rohit shares how they acquired four-letter domain names speculatively before launching into an educational overview of the national CPA shortage and accounting industry M&A.38:31–44:53 · Molly as informed peer 3/10 Founder Work Ethic & Responsibilities Rohit strongly argues that most founders do not work hard enough and defends putting in 70-90 hour work weeks to compress iteration cycles, before ending on a lighthearted tennis rivalry note.1:55–5:05 · Guest teaching 3/10 Zamp's $10M Series A Round & Preemptive Fundraising Molly kicks off the conversation politely asking about the mechanics and lead of the Series A round. Rohit provides a comprehensive narrative on preemptive terms and the current tough fundraising climate.5:05–7:19 · Guest teaching 2/10 Existing Investor Strategy & Partnering with Valor Equity Partners Molly demonstrates familiarity with venture funds and noteable investors like Day One and Soma Capital. Rohit explains how Valor's multi-stage checks and operational support made them a natural fit.7:19–14:41 · Guest teaching 5/10 Origin Story: From Finance to Uncovering the Sales Tax Opportunity Rohit details the origin story of discovering sales tax compliance gaps in portfolio companies while at Pareto, schooling the audience and host on the duopoly of Avalara and TaxJar. Molly offers an offhand remark about VCs falling into VC, which Rohit briefly questions.14:41–20:33 · Guest teaching 7/10 Sponsor Announcement: Archer eVTOL Air Taxis After an ad break, Molly asks how large the sales tax problem is, and Rohit gives an in-depth breakdown of the 2018 South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision that transformed ecommerce tax obligations.20:33–23:10 · Guest teaching 1/10 Ideal Customer Profile & Key Clients Molly playfully teases Rohit for not using social media when he admits not knowing Cult Gaia was a major brand, showing her own domain familiarity in consumer retail.23:10–27:17 · Guest teaching 3/10 Go-To-Market Strategy: Inbound Education & Partner Channels Rohit explains how inbound education and strategic accounting partnerships drive their customer acquisition with rapid onboarding times compared to legacy providers.27:17–31:18 · Guest teaching 2/10 Zamp's Team Composition & Domain Expertise Rohit discusses staffing across revenue, engineering, and tax compliance, reiterating growth metrics and achieving mid-seven figures ARR in 15 months.31:18–33:21 · Guest teaching 4/10 Business Model & Subscription Pricing Molly jokingly asks if Zamp charges a fee on every tax dollar processed. Rohit confirms that competitors actually do that and calls the practice bonkers, validating Molly's intuition.33:21–38:31 · Guest teaching 6/10 Acquiring the Zamp.com Domain Name Rohit shares how they acquired four-letter domain names speculatively before launching into an educational overview of the national CPA shortage and accounting industry M&A.38:31–44:53 · Guest teaching 4/10 Founder Work Ethic & Responsibilities Rohit strongly argues that most founders do not work hard enough and defends putting in 70-90 hour work weeks to compress iteration cycles, before ending on a lighthearted tennis rivalry note.1:55–5:05 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Zamp's $10M Series A Round & Preemptive Fundraising Molly kicks off the conversation politely asking about the mechanics and lead of the Series A round. Rohit provides a comprehensive narrative on preemptive terms and the current tough fundraising climate.5:05–7:19 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Existing Investor Strategy & Partnering with Valor Equity Partners Molly demonstrates familiarity with venture funds and noteable investors like Day One and Soma Capital. Rohit explains how Valor's multi-stage checks and operational support made them a natural fit.7:19–14:41 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Origin Story: From Finance to Uncovering the Sales Tax Opportunity Rohit details the origin story of discovering sales tax compliance gaps in portfolio companies while at Pareto, schooling the audience and host on the duopoly of Avalara and TaxJar. Molly offers an offhand remark about VCs falling into VC, which Rohit briefly questions.14:41–20:33 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Sponsor Announcement: Archer eVTOL Air Taxis After an ad break, Molly asks how large the sales tax problem is, and Rohit gives an in-depth breakdown of the 2018 South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision that transformed ecommerce tax obligations.20:33–23:10 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Ideal Customer Profile & Key Clients Molly playfully teases Rohit for not using social media when he admits not knowing Cult Gaia was a major brand, showing her own domain familiarity in consumer retail.23:10–27:17 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Go-To-Market Strategy: Inbound Education & Partner Channels Rohit explains how inbound education and strategic accounting partnerships drive their customer acquisition with rapid onboarding times compared to legacy providers.27:17–31:18 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Zamp's Team Composition & Domain Expertise Rohit discusses staffing across revenue, engineering, and tax compliance, reiterating growth metrics and achieving mid-seven figures ARR in 15 months.31:18–33:21 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Business Model & Subscription Pricing Molly jokingly asks if Zamp charges a fee on every tax dollar processed. Rohit confirms that competitors actually do that and calls the practice bonkers, validating Molly's intuition.33:21–38:31 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Acquiring the Zamp.com Domain Name Rohit shares how they acquired four-letter domain names speculatively before launching into an educational overview of the national CPA shortage and accounting industry M&A.38:31–44:53 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Founder Work Ethic & Responsibilities Rohit strongly argues that most founders do not work hard enough and defends putting in 70-90 hour work weeks to compress iteration cycles, before ending on a lighthearted tennis rivalry note.1:55–5:05 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Zamp's $10M Series A Round & Preemptive Fundraising Molly kicks off the conversation politely asking about the mechanics and lead of the Series A round. Rohit provides a comprehensive narrative on preemptive terms and the current tough fundraising climate.5:05–7:19 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Existing Investor Strategy & Partnering with Valor Equity Partners Molly demonstrates familiarity with venture funds and noteable investors like Day One and Soma Capital. Rohit explains how Valor's multi-stage checks and operational support made them a natural fit.7:19–14:41 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Origin Story: From Finance to Uncovering the Sales Tax Opportunity Rohit details the origin story of discovering sales tax compliance gaps in portfolio companies while at Pareto, schooling the audience and host on the duopoly of Avalara and TaxJar. Molly offers an offhand remark about VCs falling into VC, which Rohit briefly questions.14:41–20:33 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Sponsor Announcement: Archer eVTOL Air Taxis After an ad break, Molly asks how large the sales tax problem is, and Rohit gives an in-depth breakdown of the 2018 South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision that transformed ecommerce tax obligations.20:33–23:10 · Molly pushing back 2/10 Ideal Customer Profile & Key Clients Molly playfully teases Rohit for not using social media when he admits not knowing Cult Gaia was a major brand, showing her own domain familiarity in consumer retail.23:10–27:17 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Go-To-Market Strategy: Inbound Education & Partner Channels Rohit explains how inbound education and strategic accounting partnerships drive their customer acquisition with rapid onboarding times compared to legacy providers.27:17–31:18 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Zamp's Team Composition & Domain Expertise Rohit discusses staffing across revenue, engineering, and tax compliance, reiterating growth metrics and achieving mid-seven figures ARR in 15 months.31:18–33:21 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Business Model & Subscription Pricing Molly jokingly asks if Zamp charges a fee on every tax dollar processed. Rohit confirms that competitors actually do that and calls the practice bonkers, validating Molly's intuition.33:21–38:31 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Acquiring the Zamp.com Domain Name Rohit shares how they acquired four-letter domain names speculatively before launching into an educational overview of the national CPA shortage and accounting industry M&A.38:31–44:53 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Founder Work Ethic & Responsibilities Rohit strongly argues that most founders do not work hard enough and defends putting in 70-90 hour work weeks to compress iteration cycles, before ending on a lighthearted tennis rivalry note.

speaking balance: gold is Molly, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Molly 35.1% · guest 64.9%0:00 · Molly 35.1% · guest 64.9%3:00 · Molly 18.5% · guest 81.5%3:00 · Molly 18.5% · guest 81.5%6:00 · Molly 11.7% · guest 88.3%6:00 · Molly 11.7% · guest 88.3%9:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%12:00 · Molly 14% · guest 86%12:00 · Molly 14% · guest 86%15:00 · Molly 48% · guest 52%15:00 · Molly 48% · guest 52%18:00 · Molly 5% · guest 95%18:00 · Molly 5% · guest 95%21:00 · Molly 11.2% · guest 88.8%21:00 · Molly 11.2% · guest 88.8%24:00 · Molly 4.5% · guest 95.5%24:00 · Molly 4.5% · guest 95.5%27:00 · Molly 10.4% · guest 89.6%27:00 · Molly 10.4% · guest 89.6%30:00 · Molly 9.8% · guest 90.2%30:00 · Molly 9.8% · guest 90.2%33:00 · Molly 14.2% · guest 85.8%33:00 · Molly 14.2% · guest 85.8%36:00 · Molly 12.7% · guest 87.3%36:00 · Molly 12.7% · guest 87.3%39:00 · Molly 11.2% · guest 88.8%39:00 · Molly 11.2% · guest 88.8%42:00 · Molly 9.8% · guest 90.2%42:00 · Molly 9.8% · guest 90.2%45:00 · Molly 35.3% · guest 64.7%45:00 · Molly 35.3% · guest 64.7%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 39:40 Founders not working hard enough

Rohit openly rejects typical startup work patterns, arguing that 40-50 hours a week is insufficient given fiduciary and employee responsibilities.

Hardest push from Molly ▶ 22:10 Pushback on consumer brand awareness

Molly playfully ribs Rohit for being disconnected from consumer brands when he admits not having TikTok or knowing Cult Gaia's popularity.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 17:15 Deep dive on Wayfair Supreme Court ruling

Rohit comprehensively explains how the 2018 South Dakota v. Wayfair ruling suddenly made millions of digital merchants liable for state sales tax.

Molly holds their own ▶ 31:30 Calling out predatory pricing models

Molly astutely guesses and mocks per-dollar tax fee models, prompting Rohit to confirm and criticize competitors for doing exactly that.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicMolly as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementMolly pushing backWhy
Zamp's $10M Series A Round & Preemptive Fundraising 3311 Molly kicks off the conversation politely asking about the mechanics and lead of the Series A round. Rohit provides a comprehensive narrative on preemptive terms and the current tough fundraising climate.
Existing Investor Strategy & Partnering with Valor Equity Partners 4211 Molly demonstrates familiarity with venture funds and noteable investors like Day One and Soma Capital. Rohit explains how Valor's multi-stage checks and operational support made them a natural fit.
Origin Story: From Finance to Uncovering the Sales Tax Opportunity 2521 Rohit details the origin story of discovering sales tax compliance gaps in portfolio companies while at Pareto, schooling the audience and host on the duopoly of Avalara and TaxJar. Molly offers an offhand remark about VCs falling into VC, which Rohit briefly questions.
Sponsor Announcement: Archer eVTOL Air Taxis 2721 After an ad break, Molly asks how large the sales tax problem is, and Rohit gives an in-depth breakdown of the 2018 South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision that transformed ecommerce tax obligations.
Ideal Customer Profile & Key Clients 4112 Molly playfully teases Rohit for not using social media when he admits not knowing Cult Gaia was a major brand, showing her own domain familiarity in consumer retail.
Go-To-Market Strategy: Inbound Education & Partner Channels 3311 Rohit explains how inbound education and strategic accounting partnerships drive their customer acquisition with rapid onboarding times compared to legacy providers.
Zamp's Team Composition & Domain Expertise 3211 Rohit discusses staffing across revenue, engineering, and tax compliance, reiterating growth metrics and achieving mid-seven figures ARR in 15 months.
Business Model & Subscription Pricing 4421 Molly jokingly asks if Zamp charges a fee on every tax dollar processed. Rohit confirms that competitors actually do that and calls the practice bonkers, validating Molly's intuition.
Acquiring the Zamp.com Domain Name 3611 Rohit shares how they acquired four-letter domain names speculatively before launching into an educational overview of the national CPA shortage and accounting industry M&A.
Founder Work Ethic & Responsibilities 3431 Rohit strongly argues that most founders do not work hard enough and defends putting in 70-90 hour work weeks to compress iteration cycles, before ending on a lighthearted tennis rivalry note.

Statements from this episode (21)

Disclosure
Zamp raises $10M Series A led by Valor Equity Partners
“Raised about, yeah, raised ten million dollars. That brings our total funding to about fourteen million dollars. And yeah, I mentioned like it was led by Valor Equity Partners.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 3:49
Insight
Badangay: Early multi-stage VC backing aids future fundraising rounds
“If you can get a multi-stage VC in really early, it could really help your fundraise processes down the line too.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 4:59
Assertion Supported
Valor Equity Partners writes $1M early checks to preempt Series A rounds
“They have a program where they put in, you know, a million dollar check type thing pretty early on into businesses. And then if they're really excited about it, they'll come in and lead their air round.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 6:25
Assertion Partly supported
Avalara and TaxJar abandoned SMB market after acquisitions, says Badangay
“One of them was Avalara, which was, had been acquired by Vista Equity, this private equity group for about 8.4 billion dollars. And then you had Taxjar, which got acquired by Stripe for you know, close to a billion dollars as well. And with these acquisitions,…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 11:31
Disclosure
Badangay: Zamp Recruited Early Employees From TaxJar and Avalara
“So we had some of the, probably like our first five hires or some of the, like probably the first, 20, 25 hires from either texture or Avalara.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 13:07
Assertion Supported
Pre-2018 e-commerce and SaaS companies did not charge sales tax
“Before 2018, e-commerce and SaaS companies, they did not have to charge their customer sales tax.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 17:18
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bhadange: 10 to 15 million US merchants must now manage sales tax
“You're looking at about like, I don't know, 10, fifteen million merchants just in the U.S. That now have to deal with sales tax and never had to deal with it before.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 19:15
Opinion
Bhadange: Legacy sales tax software takes 20 to 50 hours monthly to manage
“These legacy software providers, it could take you 2040, 50 hours a month just to manage.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 19:44
Disclosure
Badangay: Zamp targets e-commerce and SaaS companies with $1M to $200M revenue
“The pain point is just the highest of the e-commerce SaaS segment, but specifically within these like one to two hundred million dollar revenue businesses.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 21:45
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Badangay: Zamp onboards in 1–2 hours versus weeks for legacy providers
“This onboarding process typically takes, you know, an hour, two hours tops. When you compare that to industry average for somebody to get fully set up running sales tax for the following months with legacy providers, it's like weeks, sometimes months, if you'r…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 25:50
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zamp reduces monthly sales tax management time to 5 minutes
“Typically customers are spending, I don't know, like two to five minutes a month managing the sales tax. And then beyond that, on the backend, our team, people, technology, automation kind of take care of everything else. And so for the customer, now they go f…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 26:42
Insight
Badangay: Putting engineers in front of CFOs for tax questions erodes trust
“I think if you just had a team of engineers and you know, somebody had a question, like a very specific sales tax question, or they're like, Hey, where did you get this rule from? And a lot of times you're talking to controllers on the other side, CFOs, financ…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 28:33
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zamp reaches almost 400 customers in 15 months since launch
“From a customer level, we're now working with almost 400 customers, and that's just in 15 months.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 30:06
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rohit Badangay: Most Zamp customers switch from legacy and newer competitors
“Most are switching over from existing providers not just legacy providers, but even some of the newer ones that we're seeing out there.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 30:19
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zamp reaches mid-seven-figure ARR with 6x YoY revenue growth
“And I think a year after, I think year after launch, or I guess like year since today, we're at almost like, what, six X revenue. So we're hitting mid seven, seven figures. They are growing pretty fast.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 30:39
Assertion Supported
Badangay: Competing tax platforms charge processing fees on dollar volume
“We have competitors that do that. And I think it's actually bonkers. Yes. They usually say, Hey, listen, They charge you not just a plat, they'll charge a platform fee, and then they'll also charge you a process, like basically a stripe processing fee type thi…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 31:33
Disclosure
Badangay: Zamp prices by state count and API transaction volume
“Our pricing is pretty simple. It's just based on how many states you need compliance in. So we have a, you know, a seven state tier, a 14 state, 21 states, 28, all the way up to a full coverage. And then beyond that that's for customers that use our platforms.…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 32:24
Disclosure
Zamp launches Ztax, a white-label sales tax tool for accountants
“We just recently launched with this fundraise, a new product called Z tax. Z tax is a solution for accountants and bookkeepers.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 35:11
Opinion
Badangay: Most startup founders do not work hard enough
“I generally agree. Most founders don't work hard enough. A lot of founders I know work like 40, 50 hours a week, which I think is kind of crazy.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 40:04
Insight
Badangay: 80-hour workweeks cut a year of progress down to 4-6 months
“If you're working, you know, average 80 hours a week versus somebody that's working 40 hours a week, whatever that takes them one year to figure out, it will take you four to six months.”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 40:24
Disclosure
Badangay: I do not expect Zamp employees to work 80-hour weeks
“While I work those kinds of hours? I don't necessarily expect my team to work those hours. I don't ever tell my team, Hey, you need to work this. You need to work that. I think we just, we're more deliverables focused and it's like, Hey, this is what we need t…”
Rohit Badangay Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 44:32
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