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Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Marc Benioff Is Repeating His Past Mistake by Cutting Sales
“I mean, Mark Benioff in his book wrote his biggest mistake in the last downturns was cutting sales. And what did he just do? Cut sales. So we're all, he's making them, he's making the same mistake three times.”
Jason Lemkin Feb 3, 2023 ▶ 12:39 What Venture Looks Like In 2023 | SaaStr Founder Jason Lemkin + 20VC Host Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Salesforce Replaced Up to 4,000 Support Staff With Internal AI
“You know, Mark Benioff said, even at Salesforce, they're growing, they're adding more headcount in sales and marketing, but I think he's, I know the numbers, I think three or 4000 folks in support, they already replaced with AI and their own AI and support Cog…”
Jason Lemkin Jan 2, 2026 ▶ 34:57 AI + B2B in 2026: Find the Tailwinds or Get Left Behind | Jason Lemkin
Prediction Held up
Benioff: Salesforce Will Demonstrate AI Agents Integrating Into Physical Robots
“And that fourth layer is going to be the robotic layer, but it needs the other three layers to operate because the agents are going to get manifested into these robots. So that will be a keep next step. And we'll see that by dream force. I'm sure.”
Marc Benioff May 2, 2025 ▶ 25:33 AI, M&A, and the Future of SaaS: Lessons from Marc Benioff, Salesforce CEO, Co-Founder and Chair
Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: SaaS vendors promise AI can cut 30% to 50% of staff
“Everyone in post sales, Salesforce, Intercom, Zendesk, Gorgeous, on and on. They are promising you can eliminate. 30 to 50% of your humans in support with AI. They're promising it today.”
Jason Lemkin Oct 15, 2024 ▶ 17:28 The Era of HyperFunctional SaaS is Here l SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
Prediction Partly held up
Bedecarre: Apple, Meta, Salesforce, and Slack back in offices by April 2022
“Big tech, you know, that Apple, Salesforce, Facebook, Meta you know, Slack all of these companies are kind of targeting over the next couple months, but by April, they will all be back.”
Justin Bedecarre Feb 27, 2022 ▶ 5:56 The Office is Back!! But What Will It Be Like? Jason Lemkin & Justin Bedecarre of Raise.Work
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Benioff Stated Envy of Palantir's Deal Size and FDE Model
“When Mark Benioff came on the TwentyVC with me and Maureen Harry, he said, my number one wish, my number one thing I'm jealous of Palantir's is one, their deal size. But two, I wish I could give everyone an FDE before I had to charge them.”
Jason Lemkin Apr 22, 2026 ▶ 48:03 Managing 20+ AI Agents: Lazy Agents, Our $500K AI Bill, Stealth Churn & the Death of 60% Solutions
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Marc Benioff has 2,000 Salesforce employees building Agentforce
“That's why Asian force has to win. That's why Mark has 2000 people working on it.”
Jason Lemkin Jan 21, 2026 ▶ 45:43 The Present and Future of AI in Sales and GTM with SaaStr's CEO and Owner's CRO
Assertion Contradicted
Lemkin: Sierra grew from $1M to $100M revenue in a year
“Sierra just said they went from one to a hundred million in a year. Brett Taylor, ex, you know, ex CTO of Facebook, co-CO of Salesforce, just going out to people and saying, you can replace a lot of your support teams with AI.”
Jason Lemkin Dec 17, 2025 ▶ 13:45 AI and the Death of the 2021 Sales Playbook with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
Assertion Supported
Marc Benioff Is Envious of Palantir's Forward Deployed Engineering Model
“He said, this is the number one thing he was jealous of Palantir was one of it was how, how, how, how well they charge their customers, but he was most jealous of what they've done in forward deployed engineers. He said, what I would love at Salesforce is that…”
Jason Lemkin Oct 22, 2025 ▶ 21:10 The State of AI + Software: Where It’s Going - Fast
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Drift security breach leaked Salesforce data from Cloudflare and Zscaler
“Poor drift, which sales off bot and Clary bot had a massive security breach and leaked cloudflare security data Z scalers, I mean, Salesforce data, cloudflare, Salesforce data, Z scalers, Salesforce data, tons of the cloud leader Salesforce data was all leaked…”
Jason Lemkin Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 13:32 The Complete Guide to Vibe Coding without a Developer with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: Per-seat pricing was under 50% of SaaS revenue historically
“And it turns out going back to the beginning per seat was less than 50% of the SaaS revenue. When you add in API pricing, other pricing, just because we think everyone talks about blah, blah, blah, Salesforce, it doesn't mean it's most of software. And so it's…”
Jason Lemkin Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 20:22 The Future of AI in B2B SaaS: Insights from Synthesia and Theory Ventures. Hosted by Jason Lemkin
Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: 70% of Salesforce's new bookings come from existing base
“70%. 70%. That's the whole story. Think about that.”
Jason Lemkin Dec 9, 2021 ▶ 5:59 Ask Me Anything About Customer Success with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin and ChurnZero CEO You Mon Tsang
Assertion Supported
First Salesforce equal pay audit adjusted salaries for almost as many men
“That first year we did the audit, we almost paid as many men as we did women to balance the salaries, and no one actually gets a pay cut.”
Molly Ford Apr 29, 2019 ▶ 17:38 How we did it: Gender Equality, Equal Pay, and Racial Equality with Salesforce
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Salesforce is acquiring pipeline generation platform Qualified
“Qualified, which Salesforce is buying.”
Jason Lemkin Mar 18, 2026 ▶ 15:12 10 Things to Know Before You Deploy Your First AI SDR
Assertion Supported
Benioff: Data Cloud is Salesforce's fastest-growing product ever
“Don't underestimate data cloud. It's been our fastest growing product ever.”
Marc Benioff May 2, 2025 ▶ 42:34 AI, M&A, and the Future of SaaS: Lessons from Marc Benioff, Salesforce CEO, Co-Founder and Chair
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Salesforce's Support Cloud Is Bigger Than Core CRM
“You might not realize that Salesforce The support post sales is actually bigger than CRM. It's actually a bigger cloud than CRM.”
Jason Lemkin Oct 15, 2024 ▶ 15:38 The Era of HyperFunctional SaaS is Here l SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Salesforce growth has dropped to single digits for first time
“Salesforce is, is profoundly struggling for the first it's fallen to single digit growth for the first time.”
Jason Lemkin Oct 15, 2024 ▶ 6:28 The Era of HyperFunctional SaaS is Here l SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
Assertion Contradicted
Lemkin: WebEx reached $1B ARR before Salesforce
“You know, WebEx was the first billion dollar ARR SaaS company that blew up even before Salesforce.”
Jason Lemkin Jul 10, 2024 ▶ 4:11 Fundraising from VCs and Hiring VPs in 2025: AMA with Jason Lemkin SaaStr CEO
Assertion Partly supported
Lerman: Salesforce nixed Slack's monthly active user pricing model
“We went with monthly active users, which by the way is how Slack got started, But after the Salesforce acquisition, they nixed it. And so now you have to pay up front for the year and the kind of Salesforce more traditional sales model.”
Howard Lerman Apr 27, 2023 ▶ 28:06 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Howard Lerman, Founder & CEO @ Roam | Founder-led Sales
Assertion Contradicted
Lemkin: Salesforce Experienced Zero Customer Churn During the 2008 Financial Crisis
“There was no churn in 2008, 2009. There was none. But there, but NRR shrunk, right? But there was no churn. There was no churn in the worst downturn of my lifetime.”
Jason Lemkin Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 31:31 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Gong VPS Jameson Yung + Jason Lemkin
Assertion Supported
Nottebohm: Top-down sales drove most software companies to $5B revenue
“By the way, this is how SAP and Salesforce made it all the way up and over to the five billion mark, and if you remember that list, the majority of the companies who got to five billion actually got there this way.”
Olivia Nottebohm Oct 20, 2021 ▶ 3:41 How Community-Led Growth Drives Product-Led Growth with Notion CRO, Olivia Nottebohm
Assertion Supported
Deeter: Salesforce paid record 35x multiple for Slack acquisition
“35 X revenue multiple paid for what is a fantastic business by one of the leaders of cloud with Salesforce really showing that this was the second largest enterprise software acquisition in history after only IBM's purchase a red hat, but also the largest mult…”
Byron Deeter Mar 14, 2021 ▶ 18:25 The State of the Cloud: 2021 with Bessemer Venture Partners | SaaStr Software Community
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: CRM Is Salesforce's Third or Fourth Largest Category
“I think at Salesforce, depending on how you look at it, CRM is either their fourth or third largest category now.”
Jason Lemkin Jul 29, 2020 ▶ 19:12 What’s Changed Since March 15 The Cloud at Hyperspeed. The World in Flux.
Assertion Supported
Forbes Data: Salespeople Spend Only 35% of Their Day Selling
“Like, Forbes says, 35% of a sales person's day is actually spent selling, because they're filling out all those 10 extra sales force fields for me, so I can do great segmentation.”
Theresa O'Neil Jul 24, 2019 ▶ 8:40 "Aligning Sales, Marketing, and CS to Scale Revenue and Retention" Theresa O'Neil, Showpad CMO
Assertion Supported
Salesforce spent over $8M across three years fixing compensation disparities
“We did the equal pay audit the first year, and we found about a three million dollar issue. And then we did it the second year, and we found another three million dollar issue. And then we did it the third year, and we found another, I mean, it's north of eigh…”
Leila Seka Apr 29, 2019 ▶ 16:57 How we did it: Gender Equality, Equal Pay, and Racial Equality with Salesforce
Assertion Supported
Benioff regrets not prioritizing equal pay from Salesforce's inception
“He will openly say, if I'd known, I would have done this in the beginning too. I would have done equal pay and equality, and I would have had a chief equality officer. The second I hired the chief philanthropy officer, like he, Miss Mark Benioff, like the lege…”
Leila Seka Apr 29, 2019 ▶ 15:09 How we did it: Gender Equality, Equal Pay, and Racial Equality with Salesforce
Assertion Contradicted
Lemkin: Revenue Per Employee Up 2.6x at HubSpot Since 2021
“Since 2021, this is their efficiency ratio, their revenue per employee. HubSpot up 2.6 X, even Salesforce up 2.2 X.”
Jason Lemkin Jan 2, 2026 ▶ 53:25 AI + B2B in 2026: Find the Tailwinds or Get Left Behind | Jason Lemkin
Assertion Supported
Benioff: Salesforce is Japan's second-largest software company
“We're the second largest software company in Japan.”
Marc Benioff May 2, 2025 ▶ 12:12 AI, M&A, and the Future of SaaS: Lessons from Marc Benioff, Salesforce CEO, Co-Founder and Chair
Assertion Supported
Benioff: Salesforce Guided to Around $40.9 Billion for the Year
“I think we did give guidance at about 40.9 billion for this year.”
Marc Benioff May 2, 2025 ▶ 1:29 AI, M&A, and the Future of SaaS: Lessons from Marc Benioff, Salesforce CEO, Co-Founder and Chair
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: MongoDB, Salesforce, And UiPath All Suffered Severe Growth Deceleration
“We talked about the shock to the system of Mongo going from 40 to 17%, Salesforce shrinking to single digit growth, UiPath cutting its guidance in half.”
Jason Lemkin Jul 5, 2024 ▶ 28:00 Top 10 Go To Market Mistakes Founders Make Again … and Again with SaaStr’s Jason Lemkin
Assertion Partly supported
Kayyal: Salesforce listed a $6B TAM in its 2004 IPO filing
“When Salesforce went public in our S-one, our TAM listed was six billion in 2004. That was what we said the TAM was for Salesforce. You know, Jason called it out. It's now a thirty billion revenue company. You look at the TAM, you know, over three hundred bill…”
Alex Kayyal Dec 2, 2022 ▶ 29:43 Accel, Iconiq & Salesforce Ventures: "Where Venture Is Right Now: Gritty & Much Harder" at G2 Reach
Assertion Supported
Kayyal: Salesforce Grew Over 20% in 2009 Despite Global Financial Crisis
“Salesforce's growth in 2009 you know, in what was the doom and gloom era, as we can all remember of, you know, the world felt, you know, sort of financial markets were about to collapse and Salesforce still grew north of 20% in that period.”
Alex Kayyal Dec 2, 2022 ▶ 5:22 Accel, Iconiq & Salesforce Ventures: "Where Venture Is Right Now: Gritty & Much Harder" at G2 Reach
Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: Early Salesforce was a rudimentary SMB app with four tabs
“Salesforce was a very rudimentary SMB app for a brief period of time, but it was. It sold to very small companies. It didn't even have custom tabs. It just had four tabs out of the box, and even compared to, like, where Pipedrive was in 2013, it did less. It w…”
Jason Lemkin Aug 25, 2022 ▶ 16:44 The Answers To Scaling, Hiring, And Everything Else: An AMA With Saastr Founder & Ceo Jason Lemkin
Assertion Supported
Bedecarre: Sephora leased major portion of Salesforce's 350 Mission space
“Salesforce themselves put up one of their half of their building at three 50 mission. Sephora took a huge chunk of that.”
Justin Bedecarre Feb 27, 2022 ▶ 6:51 The Office is Back!! But What Will It Be Like? Jason Lemkin & Justin Bedecarre of Raise.Work
Assertion Supported
Lemkin notes Salesforce generates 70% of its growth from existing customers.
“It's true of Salesforce. 70% of the growth is from the base.”
Jason Lemkin Jan 29, 2021 ▶ 42:39 The Twists and Turns Along the Way to Building a Unicorn with Salesloft's CEO Kyle Porter
Assertion Supported
Deeter: Over 40% of Public Cloud Value Has Been Acquired
“Over 40% of the value of the public cloud companies has been acquired away, strip out Salesforce at the top there, and well over 50% has been acquired.”
Byron Deeter May 13, 2017 ▶ 5:02 Bessemer Venture Partners: The State of the Cloud, 2017-2018 Edition
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