Jun 10, 2020 · 31m · saastr

7 Key Tips & Tricks to Getting More Revenue per AE with Salesloft, Zoom and Fireeye

Kyle Porter · 11m spoken Hilary Headley · 9m spoken Christina Foley · 8m spoken
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Sales leaders from SalesLoft, Zoom, and FireEye share actionable strategies to maximize Account Executive revenue productivity by optimizing talent recruitment, structured onboarding, frontline manager coaching, and authentic sales automation.

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Jason as informed peer 5.6 Guest teaching 3.8 Guest disagreement 0.0 Jason pushing back 0.1
05100:0010:0020:0030:000:00–2:09 · Jason as informed peer 4/10 Opening Introductions and Panelist Backgrounds Kyle Porter kicks off the panel by introducing the speakers, Hilary Headley and Christina Foley, and setting the stage on AE productivity.2:10–7:03 · Jason as informed peer 6/10 Changing Buyer Behaviors and Core Discussion Pillars Kyle frames the shift in buyer behavior and asks Hilary about identifying talent. Hilary breaks down ideal hiring profiles and outbound recruiting before Kyle shares his own tip on SMS communication with buyers.7:04–9:30 · Jason as informed peer 5/10 Inspiring and Motivating Sales Teams Through Purpose Christina emphasizes connecting reps to the company mission and individual motivators. Kyle validates her points with specific mission-driven examples from Zoom and FireEye.9:30–12:47 · Jason as informed peer 6/10 Structuring Actionable AE Onboarding and Ramp Programs Hilary outlines a structured 20-topic interactive onboarding framework to replace ineffective PowerPoints. Kyle reinforces the critical financial impact of shortening ramp times based on his Series C financial modeling.12:48–15:42 · Jason as informed peer 4/10 Five Key Metrics for Evaluating Rep Productivity and Ramp Hilary educates the panel on five distinct ways to measure ramp and rep productivity depending on company maturity. Christina explains using spontaneous 'win wires' to reinforce desired sales behaviors.15:43–19:24 · Jason as informed peer 7/10 Supporting Casts, Sales Engineers, and Executive Engagement Tactics Christina details the critical role of supporting functions like Sales Engineers and enablement. Kyle shares his tactical playbook for executive alignment using 'draft on behalf of' emails and automated CEO outreach on $50k+ deals.19:24–25:12 · Jason as informed peer 5/10 Post-Sale Customer Expansion and the Infinite Loop Model Christina introduces FireEye's 'infinite loop' customer journey model. Hilary and Christina then educate on frontline manager enablement, manageable rep-to-manager ratios, and structured 1:1 sheets.25:13–28:20 · Jason as informed peer 6/10 Balancing Sales Automation with Authenticity in the Tech Stack Kyle highlights the inherent tension between scaling automation and maintaining authentic buyer relationships. Hilary outlines her core tech stack (LinkedIn, LeanData, SalesLoft), and Kyle shares the founding backstory of SalesLoft.28:20–31:02 · Jason as informed peer 7/10 Building Trust, Customer Experience, Security, and Smart Routing Christina discusses building buyer trust and protecting IP. Kyle demonstrates domain expertise by citing Gartner's 53% buyer loyalty statistic, SOC compliance necessities, and advanced automated routing workflows.0:00–2:09 · Guest teaching 0/10 Opening Introductions and Panelist Backgrounds Kyle Porter kicks off the panel by introducing the speakers, Hilary Headley and Christina Foley, and setting the stage on AE productivity.2:10–7:03 · Guest teaching 4/10 Changing Buyer Behaviors and Core Discussion Pillars Kyle frames the shift in buyer behavior and asks Hilary about identifying talent. Hilary breaks down ideal hiring profiles and outbound recruiting before Kyle shares his own tip on SMS communication with buyers.7:04–9:30 · Guest teaching 3/10 Inspiring and Motivating Sales Teams Through Purpose Christina emphasizes connecting reps to the company mission and individual motivators. Kyle validates her points with specific mission-driven examples from Zoom and FireEye.9:30–12:47 · Guest teaching 5/10 Structuring Actionable AE Onboarding and Ramp Programs Hilary outlines a structured 20-topic interactive onboarding framework to replace ineffective PowerPoints. Kyle reinforces the critical financial impact of shortening ramp times based on his Series C financial modeling.12:48–15:42 · Guest teaching 6/10 Five Key Metrics for Evaluating Rep Productivity and Ramp Hilary educates the panel on five distinct ways to measure ramp and rep productivity depending on company maturity. Christina explains using spontaneous 'win wires' to reinforce desired sales behaviors.15:43–19:24 · Guest teaching 3/10 Supporting Casts, Sales Engineers, and Executive Engagement Tactics Christina details the critical role of supporting functions like Sales Engineers and enablement. Kyle shares his tactical playbook for executive alignment using 'draft on behalf of' emails and automated CEO outreach on $50k+ deals.19:24–25:12 · Guest teaching 6/10 Post-Sale Customer Expansion and the Infinite Loop Model Christina introduces FireEye's 'infinite loop' customer journey model. Hilary and Christina then educate on frontline manager enablement, manageable rep-to-manager ratios, and structured 1:1 sheets.25:13–28:20 · Guest teaching 4/10 Balancing Sales Automation with Authenticity in the Tech Stack Kyle highlights the inherent tension between scaling automation and maintaining authentic buyer relationships. Hilary outlines her core tech stack (LinkedIn, LeanData, SalesLoft), and Kyle shares the founding backstory of SalesLoft.28:20–31:02 · Guest teaching 3/10 Building Trust, Customer Experience, Security, and Smart Routing Christina discusses building buyer trust and protecting IP. Kyle demonstrates domain expertise by citing Gartner's 53% buyer loyalty statistic, SOC compliance necessities, and advanced automated routing workflows.0:00–2:09 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Opening Introductions and Panelist Backgrounds Kyle Porter kicks off the panel by introducing the speakers, Hilary Headley and Christina Foley, and setting the stage on AE productivity.2:10–7:03 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Changing Buyer Behaviors and Core Discussion Pillars Kyle frames the shift in buyer behavior and asks Hilary about identifying talent. Hilary breaks down ideal hiring profiles and outbound recruiting before Kyle shares his own tip on SMS communication with buyers.7:04–9:30 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Inspiring and Motivating Sales Teams Through Purpose Christina emphasizes connecting reps to the company mission and individual motivators. Kyle validates her points with specific mission-driven examples from Zoom and FireEye.9:30–12:47 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Structuring Actionable AE Onboarding and Ramp Programs Hilary outlines a structured 20-topic interactive onboarding framework to replace ineffective PowerPoints. Kyle reinforces the critical financial impact of shortening ramp times based on his Series C financial modeling.12:48–15:42 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Five Key Metrics for Evaluating Rep Productivity and Ramp Hilary educates the panel on five distinct ways to measure ramp and rep productivity depending on company maturity. Christina explains using spontaneous 'win wires' to reinforce desired sales behaviors.15:43–19:24 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Supporting Casts, Sales Engineers, and Executive Engagement Tactics Christina details the critical role of supporting functions like Sales Engineers and enablement. Kyle shares his tactical playbook for executive alignment using 'draft on behalf of' emails and automated CEO outreach on $50k+ deals.19:24–25:12 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Post-Sale Customer Expansion and the Infinite Loop Model Christina introduces FireEye's 'infinite loop' customer journey model. Hilary and Christina then educate on frontline manager enablement, manageable rep-to-manager ratios, and structured 1:1 sheets.25:13–28:20 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Balancing Sales Automation with Authenticity in the Tech Stack Kyle highlights the inherent tension between scaling automation and maintaining authentic buyer relationships. Hilary outlines her core tech stack (LinkedIn, LeanData, SalesLoft), and Kyle shares the founding backstory of SalesLoft.28:20–31:02 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Building Trust, Customer Experience, Security, and Smart Routing Christina discusses building buyer trust and protecting IP. Kyle demonstrates domain expertise by citing Gartner's 53% buyer loyalty statistic, SOC compliance necessities, and advanced automated routing workflows.0:00–2:09 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Opening Introductions and Panelist Backgrounds Kyle Porter kicks off the panel by introducing the speakers, Hilary Headley and Christina Foley, and setting the stage on AE productivity.2:10–7:03 · Jason pushing back 1/10 Changing Buyer Behaviors and Core Discussion Pillars Kyle frames the shift in buyer behavior and asks Hilary about identifying talent. Hilary breaks down ideal hiring profiles and outbound recruiting before Kyle shares his own tip on SMS communication with buyers.7:04–9:30 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Inspiring and Motivating Sales Teams Through Purpose Christina emphasizes connecting reps to the company mission and individual motivators. Kyle validates her points with specific mission-driven examples from Zoom and FireEye.9:30–12:47 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Structuring Actionable AE Onboarding and Ramp Programs Hilary outlines a structured 20-topic interactive onboarding framework to replace ineffective PowerPoints. Kyle reinforces the critical financial impact of shortening ramp times based on his Series C financial modeling.12:48–15:42 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Five Key Metrics for Evaluating Rep Productivity and Ramp Hilary educates the panel on five distinct ways to measure ramp and rep productivity depending on company maturity. Christina explains using spontaneous 'win wires' to reinforce desired sales behaviors.15:43–19:24 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Supporting Casts, Sales Engineers, and Executive Engagement Tactics Christina details the critical role of supporting functions like Sales Engineers and enablement. Kyle shares his tactical playbook for executive alignment using 'draft on behalf of' emails and automated CEO outreach on $50k+ deals.19:24–25:12 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Post-Sale Customer Expansion and the Infinite Loop Model Christina introduces FireEye's 'infinite loop' customer journey model. Hilary and Christina then educate on frontline manager enablement, manageable rep-to-manager ratios, and structured 1:1 sheets.25:13–28:20 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Balancing Sales Automation with Authenticity in the Tech Stack Kyle highlights the inherent tension between scaling automation and maintaining authentic buyer relationships. Hilary outlines her core tech stack (LinkedIn, LeanData, SalesLoft), and Kyle shares the founding backstory of SalesLoft.28:20–31:02 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Building Trust, Customer Experience, Security, and Smart Routing Christina discusses building buyer trust and protecting IP. Kyle demonstrates domain expertise by citing Gartner's 53% buyer loyalty statistic, SOC compliance necessities, and advanced automated routing workflows.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:48 Hilary challenges unrealistic expectations of new hire training

Hilary pushes back against conventional sales leadership complaints by arguing that five days of onboarding cannot reasonably teach complex closing skills while reps are still navigating basic logistics.

Hardest push from Jason ▶ 5:57 Kyle presses Hilary on ideal hiring characteristics

Kyle asks Hilary to double-click into specific hiring profiles and concrete criteria rather than high-level generalities.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 12:53 Hilary's five definitions of rep ramp and productivity

Hilary systematically educates the room on five distinct mathematical metrics to calculate rep productivity and ramp based on company scaling strategy.

Jason holds their own ▶ 17:35 Kyle shares his automated CEO executive engagement workflow

Kyle demonstrates strong operational expertise by detailing an automated Salesforce rule triggering personalized CEO correspondence on closed deals above $50k.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJason as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJason pushing backWhy
Opening Introductions and Panelist Backgrounds 4000 Kyle Porter kicks off the panel by introducing the speakers, Hilary Headley and Christina Foley, and setting the stage on AE productivity.
Changing Buyer Behaviors and Core Discussion Pillars 6401 Kyle frames the shift in buyer behavior and asks Hilary about identifying talent. Hilary breaks down ideal hiring profiles and outbound recruiting before Kyle shares his own tip on SMS communication with buyers.
Inspiring and Motivating Sales Teams Through Purpose 5300 Christina emphasizes connecting reps to the company mission and individual motivators. Kyle validates her points with specific mission-driven examples from Zoom and FireEye.
Structuring Actionable AE Onboarding and Ramp Programs 6500 Hilary outlines a structured 20-topic interactive onboarding framework to replace ineffective PowerPoints. Kyle reinforces the critical financial impact of shortening ramp times based on his Series C financial modeling.
Five Key Metrics for Evaluating Rep Productivity and Ramp 4600 Hilary educates the panel on five distinct ways to measure ramp and rep productivity depending on company maturity. Christina explains using spontaneous 'win wires' to reinforce desired sales behaviors.
Supporting Casts, Sales Engineers, and Executive Engagement Tactics 7300 Christina details the critical role of supporting functions like Sales Engineers and enablement. Kyle shares his tactical playbook for executive alignment using 'draft on behalf of' emails and automated CEO outreach on $50k+ deals.
Post-Sale Customer Expansion and the Infinite Loop Model 5600 Christina introduces FireEye's 'infinite loop' customer journey model. Hilary and Christina then educate on frontline manager enablement, manageable rep-to-manager ratios, and structured 1:1 sheets.
Balancing Sales Automation with Authenticity in the Tech Stack 6400 Kyle highlights the inherent tension between scaling automation and maintaining authentic buyer relationships. Hilary outlines her core tech stack (LinkedIn, LeanData, SalesLoft), and Kyle shares the founding backstory of SalesLoft.
Building Trust, Customer Experience, Security, and Smart Routing 7300 Christina discusses building buyer trust and protecting IP. Kyle demonstrates domain expertise by citing Gartner's 53% buyer loyalty statistic, SOC compliance necessities, and advanced automated routing workflows.

Statements from this episode (11)

Insight
Headley: Sales managers with open quotas often rush to hire suboptimal candidates
“Anytime a manager has open headcount, they typically have open quota and they will be excited to close maybe that first person and they might not be the best person that aligns.”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 5:11
Insight
Headley: Recruiting must shift outbound when sales shifts outbound
“Remember that just as your sales might need to move from inbound to outbound, so might your recruiting efforts.”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 5:29
Insight
Headley: Sales onboarding should target 20 outcomes across four daily sessions
“What are the top 20 things that you want your reps to walk away with, and why is it 20? Because you can structure your five day a week new hire training, two sessions in the morning, two afternoon, And that's where adults can really learn, and that's about wha…”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 10:18
Assertion Supported
Headley: Only 50% to 60% of SaaS sales reps typically attain quota
“Then there's the average number of reps attaining quota, which typically is about 50 to 60% in SAS.”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 13:12
Disclosure
Foley: FireEye sends company-wide win wires from the CEO to reinforce behavior
“So they, they're definitely spontaneous, but when we take down a deal that was either You know, a customer we never thought we would get. It was a fortune 100. What, you know, it was all products and services and we send that out to the entire company. Oftent…”
Christina Foley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 14:47
Disclosure
Porter: Salesloft automated CEO follow-up emails for closed-won deals over $50,000
“Once we acquired a new customer, I set this rule up in Salesforce that would say, if customer comes in and deal is closed one, above 50 K is the threshold I put on, you know, you may do differently, then it would automate an email from me to the rep, saying co…”
Kyle Porter Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 18:37
Insight
Headley: Ratios of 20 reps per manager destroy sales ramp and productivity
“Sales enablement seems to almost be exclusively for sales reps. And I think we've forgotten our managers and there's some things out there that I feel like a manager ratio some of the companies I've heard or even been at have been 50 to one 20 to one, and I'm …”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 21:17
Insight
Headley: Test if top reps are consciously competent before promoting to manager
“Making sure that if you want to promote internally, you have the right kind of tests in there. Are they a good rep that can do it, but are they, like, consciously competent to be able to explain this is what it would look like to be a good rep and other people…”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 22:53
Opinion
Headley: LinkedIn, LeanData, and Salesloft form the perfect pre-IPO sales stack
“Between LinkedIn, like a lean data and sales loft, I think that's, that was a really perfect marriage at a couple of prior pre IPO companies.”
Hilary Headley Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 27:49
Disclosure
Porter: Salesloft was founded inside Pardot to solve its own workflow issues
“I actually founded sales loft in the Pardot offices, watching them do similar things and having a lot of those difficulties. So that was a lot of the inspiration”
Kyle Porter Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 28:04
Assertion Supported
Porter: Gartner finds 53% of customer loyalty derives from the sales experience
“Gartner says that 53% of customer loyalty is derived by the sales experience”
Kyle Porter Jun 10, 2020 ▶ 29:41
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