Microsoft

includes Microsoft Copilot

49 statements across 24 episodes · 8 bullish · 16 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Jul 7, 2023 by Jessica Lessin · across every show →

Everything said about Microsoft, oldest first

Jul 7, 2023 negative
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Leaked documents show Microsoft's cloud business is smaller than thought
“Information also had a story this week that Microsoft accidentally released some documents that showed its cloud business is not as big as people think it is”
Jessica Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 42:15 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 31, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI Hired a Former Microsoft Intellectual Property Lawyer
“We have information just broke a story that they hired a new IP, no, sorry, OpenAI hired a new IP lawyer who used to work in Microsoft, so go figure that one out.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 31, 2023 ▶ 50:04 #7: Elon's X game and RIP seed investing · More or Less Podcast
Sep 22, 2023
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Amazon Poached Microsoft's Chief Product Officer for Hardware
“Yeah, well, we know where Sam thinks, but also for those who like such intrigue, Amazon poached Microsoft's chief product officer as their new head of hardware, so I think that's always funny to me, these big companies poaching from each other.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 22, 2023 ▶ 3:22 #15: Instacart’s Fake IPO and Why Hiring in Tech Is So Broken · More or Less Podcast
Sep 29, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Microsoft Is Developing Cheaper In-House AI to Avoid OpenAI Costs
“So Microsoft, who's ten billion dollars into open AI, gave it exclusive access to their IP, has decided in part because it's too expensive to run, they're going to build a cheaper functional enough version to have to power some of these applications.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 29, 2023 ▶ 32:57 #16: Why Your AI Startup is Probably Already Dead · More or Less Podcast
Oct 27, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Wall Street is funding big tech over startups
“I'm in a hedge fund across from Google, you can see in the background, and the story is, unsurprisingly, they're shipping it to Microsoft and Meta and all the big companies. They are not shipping it to little companies anytime soon.”
Sam Lessin Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 3:14 #20: The New Founder Mindset: The End of the Product-Focused CEO · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Opinion
Lessin: Safest business outcome is Microsoft absorbing OpenAI's staff
“For the sake of business, it would be great if Microsoft just inherited the people that want to work on this stuff and they go into a normal business structure where they're a hundred billion dollar piece of a three trillion dollar company. That's the safest o…”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 32:50 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Microsoft, Amazon, and Google are the big winners of OpenAI drama
“I think the big winners on this are Microsoft, actually, despite the challenges of the eyes. It's Amazon. It's going to be Google.”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 1:03:32 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Bringing OpenAI Staff into Microsoft Will Get Messy Fast
“I just think the Microsoft thing is gonna get really messy really fast with, like, The Microsoft shareholders, the public company, all the inter organizations. Like it's, I know Satya said it's going to be arm's length. I just don't buy into that.”
Brit Morin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 49:09 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Microsoft has a strong record of letting subsidiaries run independently
“Microsoft also has a really good I think a really good reputation and history of allowing kind of the subsidiary companies such as, you know Mohang and Minecraft and LinkedIn and you know, many of these things they've acquired sort of operate as their own goin…”
Dave Morin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 59:22 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 negative
Opinion
Morin: Microsoft, Sequoia, and Thrive failed diligence on OpenAI's board
“I don't think a lot of people are recognizing like he like hit a Hail Mary and he was Screwed. And like, frankly, I'm surprised that Microsoft and Sequoia and Thrive, like didn't do more board diligence when they were investing all this money to figure out lik…”
Brit Morin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 18:10 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin predicts Microsoft will absolutely not fund AGI development
“Microsoft's not going to fund AGI”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 48:47 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Mar 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Microsoft offered Sam Altman same deal as Inflection
“If Sam Altman hadn't gone back to OpenAI, this, he had a job offer to do exactly the same thing.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 27:33 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Mar 22, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI startup talent will recombine into Big Tech within years
“If you believe, as I do, that all the value is going to accrue to the top five players anyway, what you'd expect is that, like, on some non-zero timeline, but in the next few years, all the talent that got excited about these startup opportunities and went fly…”
Sam Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 33:22 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Mar 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: Big Tech AI acqui-hires are tailor-made to skirt antitrust
“There are laws designed to protect, you know, companies from getting so much market power that they're anti-competitive effects, and these deals are tailor-made to skirt those laws.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 28:17 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Mar 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Most of Microsoft's $10B OpenAI deal is cloud credits, not cash
“We saw it with Microsoft's huge, you know, ten billion dollar investment in OpenAI, huge portion of which isn't in cash. But it's in credits”
Jessica Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 17:00 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Mar 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Microsoft Repaid Inflection AI Early Investors Plus a Small Return
“What the information was able to report last night is a little bit more of the terms there. So it looks like Microsoft gave the early shareholders in inflection their money back, plus a little bit of a return and more to come on what that structure looks like.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 23:32 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Apr 26, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Walmart, Oracle, and Microsoft May Bid for TikTok
“We'll see Walmart and Oracle and maybe Microsoft and who knows, try to form potential consortiums to buy it or spin it off.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 26, 2024 ▶ 3:41 #44: The $1B AI Girlfriend Market, the Tech Hedge Fund Fallout and Why VCs Can’t Quit AI · More or Less Podcast
Jun 21, 2024 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Gil: Microsoft Azure AI Services Lift Adds $1 Billion Quarterly
“Azure in their last quarter announced a twenty five billion dollar quarter of which a five percent lift came from AI. So they added something like a billion and a half per quarter in new revenue for what they considered AI services on their cloud.”
Elad Gil Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 7:47 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Aug 2, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta has direct AI utility while Microsoft must sell it
“Because they have an actual use case for AI. Microsoft actually has to sell the fucking AI, right? Because that's the whole thing is not, they can't use it. They got to actually sell it.”
Sam Lessin Aug 2, 2024 ▶ 13:56 #58: The Death of Friends · More or Less Podcast
Aug 2, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: TikTok Pays Microsoft $20M a Month for Azure OpenAI
“I read in the information that TikTok is paying Microsoft Twenty million dollars a month to access open AI through Azure.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 2, 2024 ▶ 21:32 #58: The Death of Friends · More or Less Podcast
Aug 9, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Microsoft, Amazon, and Google Used Multi-Billion Acqui-Hires to Avoid Regulators
“These deals, we've now had three, basically like billions of dollars of acquihires of teams to get around acquiring companies. Microsoft's done it, Amazon's done it, and now Google's done it.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 21:56 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 11, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Dave Morin: Microsoft 'quite literally had to buy a nuclear power plant'
“Microsoft quite literally had to buy a nuclear power plant, right?”
Dave Morin Oct 11, 2024 ▶ 41:17 #68: Google's Antitrust Saga Continues… · More or Less Podcast
Oct 11, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Lessin: Microsoft likely supports OpenAI diversifying infrastructure away from Azure
“And you know what? I bet Microsoft is all in favor of this too, because they don't want to have all their workloads either.”
Jessica Lessin Oct 11, 2024 ▶ 54:35 #68: Google's Antitrust Saga Continues… · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Microsoft will not fund AGI research
“Microsoft's not going to fund AGI”
Sam Lessin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 32:13 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 positive
Opinion
Morin: OpenAI shifted in one year to lead all of Silicon Valley
“Like this went from being a nonprofit research organization with a lot of really, you know, interesting ideas, definitely fundamentalists, to being the tip of the spear, not just for Microsoft and their customers, but for all of Silicon Valley.”
Dave Morin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 30:15 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rauch: Copilot gave Microsoft conviction in OpenAI after broader bets
“I was interviewing Nat Freeman today for our internal Vercel podcast today, and he was talking about how much conviction Microsoft got into OpenAI because of the effectiveness of Copilot. Like when Satya saw Copilot, when they were doing the initial iterations…”
Guillermo Rauch Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 1:34:34 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Lessin: An $11 billion OpenAI loss is irrelevant to Microsoft
“Eleven billion dollars is completely irrelevant to Microsoft. Right. It's a three trillion dollar company, right? Like they can spend a living billion dollars.”
Sam Lessin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 28:42 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 negative
Opinion
Britt Morin: Microsoft, Sequoia, and Thrive failed OpenAI board diligence
“Frankly, I'm surprised that Microsoft and Sequoia and Thrive, like didn't do more board diligence when they were investing all this money to figure out like this board was like not adequate for the type of company that this has become.”
Brit Morin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 27:53 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Jan 4, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Dave Morin: US antitrust slowed Microsoft to "the crawl of the DMV"
“So it's almost like the government operating system showed up inside of Microsoft and slowed it down to like the crawl of the DMV for like 10 years, right? Microsoft, like after the, you know, time period was up, I don't remember how long it was, just like sli…”
Dave Morin Jan 4, 2025 ▶ 21:58 #80: More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 2 (Crypto and Antitrust) · More or Less Podcast
Jan 24, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Tech CEOs were seated directly behind Trump's family at the inauguration
“Behind President Trump's family was not his cabinet members or, you know, people who have served in his administrations in the past, but the CEO of every major large tech company, except Microsoft, which we could circle back to Bezos, Zuckerberg, Pichai, Elon.”
Jessica Lessin Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 1:22 #83: Trump Inauguration, Stargate, and the Meme Economy · More or Less Podcast
Feb 28, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Grok Built a Competitive Model for Barely Half of OpenAI's $20B Spend
“Twelve billion has gone into Grok, and OpenAI, you have to sort of discount the Microsoft dollars, because a lot of it's for compute, but an estimated twenty billion. Into open AI. So, you know, almost double what Grok has used to build a very similar, if not …”
Brit Morin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 43:32 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Lessin: OpenAI Is Cutting Prices to Directly Undercut Microsoft
“There are two ways if you're a business to get open AI. You can get them from Microsoft or you can get them from OpenAI. What's OpenAI doing? It's cutting the price to undercut Microsoft.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 26:32 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025
Assertion Supported
OpenAI considered an antitrust complaint against Microsoft, WSJ reported
“The journal reported that OpenAI had considered an antitrust complaint against Microsoft.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 27:08 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025
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Lessin: OpenAI Wants Microsoft Stake Cut From 49% to One-Third
“Open AI would like Microsoft to go down to a third. From, I guess, around 49%, or, and it just seems like this relationship has completely deteriorated”
Jessica Lessin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 24:49 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Aug 8, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet put 60-80% of cash into AI; Apple 10%
“Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet are all in the 60 to 80% range right now. Apple is at 10%.”
Dave Morin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 26:37 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Aug 8, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Satya Nadella will approve an OpenAI IPO at eleventh hour
“Satya will not want his investment that he has also invested a shit ton of infrastructure and supporting to go to zero. And he doesn't have to agree until the 11th hour, but that's like, he'll agree at the 11th hour.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 13:24 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Nov 7, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin says Apple spends only 10-20% of operating cash on AI
“They've shown only an appetite to invest something like 10, maybe 20% of their operating cash flow in AI infrastructure. They're not willing to spend 70, 80% like Meta or Amazon or Microsoft.”
Dave Morin Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 18:44 Apple Chooses Gemini, Sequoia's Leadership Shake-up, and Meme Coins · More or Less Podcast
May 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic represent half of major cloud deal backlogs
“And then we charted of the, we just had earnings, of the backlogs in deals for Microsoft, Oracle, Google, and Amazon, what percentage are OpenAI's commitment and Anthropi's commitment? It's together, they're about half, ok?”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 34:38 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 bearish
Assertion Contradicted
Lessin: Microsoft is the only big tech company consistently down in 2026
“Microsoft is the only of the big tech companies that has been consistently down this year and is like investors are really worried about Microsoft and all the things we talk about day in and day out.”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 32:04 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Microsoft Restructured and Sidelined Mustafa Suleyman
“They actually restructured and like pushed him aside. Like they've had like many reorgs.”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 37:54 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: Microsoft's OpenAI bet was a great trade, not product strategy
“This was a great financial strategy for Microsoft. It wasn't a great product strategy. They like executed a massive trade. The trade looks like it's working out, but the product outcome that they wanted or that they perhaps needed hasn't materialized”
Dave Morin May 15, 2026 ▶ 36:17 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Microsoft rejected OpenAI compute demands, enabling rival cloud deals
“Microsoft had a right of first refusal. On all new compute from OpenAI. And Sam was saying, we need more. And Amy Hood, the CFO of Microsoft and Satir were like we're not going to give you more right now. And they underestimated their needs and let them pursue…”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 33:24 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: Microsoft's AI Strategy Uniquely Depends on a Rival Partner
“They're like the only one whose entire AI strategy depends on a partner that's actively becoming a creator.”
Dave Morin May 15, 2026 ▶ 38:01 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
Jun 5, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Morin: Microsoft built its new Windows agent Scout on OpenClaw
“They also really kind of cool integrated it like directly into windows and they have a new long running agent called scout. That's based on open Built on Openclaw.”
Dave Morin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 15:40 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jul 10, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Lessin: Microsoft narrative shifted from infallible to 'the worst' in a year
“The narrative shift on Microsoft in the last year is, like, wild to me. They went from, like, they could do no wrong to, like, they're the worst.”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 41:19 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Microsoft is the only big tech stock that is down
“Like, Microsoft is sort of the only of the big tech stocks that is like, down. Like, the investors are not happy with the strategy over there.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 41:09 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026
Assertion Open · timeframe Jul 2026
Morin: Sarah Bond has left leadership of Microsoft Xbox
“Sarah Bond was running it for a while. She was amazing, and she left.”
Dave Morin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 36:26 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Asha Sharma overhauled Xbox strategy and cut studios
“Yep, now Asha is running it, who was doing AI, and she's, like, totally overhauled the strategy, jettisoned a lot of studios.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 36:29 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Anthropic focuses entirely on large enterprises, ignoring small businesses and press
“Anthropic decided to be Microsoft and to become an enterprise company. My understanding is that they focus entirely on their largest enterprise customers and that they don't care about press. They don't care about smaller enterprise customers or small business…”
Dave Morin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 26:24 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
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