open source
19 statements across 17 episodes · 10 bullish · 7 bearish · 17 people on the record · first statement Dec 5, 2023 by Dylan Patel · across every show →
Everything said about open source, oldest first
Dec 5, 2023 negative
Jan 2, 2024 positive
Jan 11, 2024 bearish
Jan 11, 2024 bullish
Feb 7, 2024 bullish
Feb 8, 2024 positive
Prakash: Together AI keeps its inference stack proprietary for competitive advantage
“I think on the inference stack, there are open source inference stacks which are pretty good, and it gives us, you know, definitely today it gives us a competitive advantage to have the best one, and So we're not sort of rushing out to release everything about…”
Aug 22, 2024 neutral
Oct 18, 2024 positive
Drew Houston: Massive AI price-performance gains wouldn't happen without open source
“You've seen like the price performance of these models improve 10 or a hundred X year over year, which is, it's sort of like many Moore's laws compounded together. For a bunch of reasons. Like, that wouldn't have happened without open source, right?”
Feb 11, 2025 bullish
Apr 29, 2025 positive
May 9, 2025 negative
No open-source model currently matches OpenAI's general agent capabilities
“There really isn't currently an open source model that behaves in the way that these models do. We have things like R-one, which are great at kind of the single-term math and code reasoning problems. But they are not in the general purpose agents world yet.”
Aug 4, 2025 negative
Aug 5, 2025 positive
Open source excels at core architectures needing hundreds of long-tail integrations.
“The stuff that has like, there's a core. And once you put the core, there's like a hundred integrations to do. That's where open source really shines. And there's a lot of that in open code. That's why we made it open source.”
Aug 5, 2025 negative
Dax Reed argues open-source products are usually worse due to committee design.
“We don't think a product is good because it's open source. Usually a product is bad because it's open source. It tends to be like designed by committee and like just a smash of like a bunch of different competing priorities.”
Aug 6, 2025 positive
Oct 11, 2025 negative
Nov 3, 2025 neutral
AI labs will increasingly co-design models alongside proprietary custom inference ASICs
“I definitely think things are moving towards you design a model. It's sized the way that fits well on hardware that you can design. You immediately start creating an inference hardware that is custom made to fit the sizes of your model. And then you can also s…”
Dec 16, 2025 bearish
Pliny: Locking down proprietary models fails because attackers switch to open source
“I think that any, you know, seasoned attacker is going to very quickly just switch models and with open source, just right on the tail of closed source. I don't really see the safety fight as being about locking down the latent space for XYZ area.”