foundation model
also referred to as: foundation models
28 statements across 23 episodes · 13 bullish · 7 bearish · 23 people on the record · first statement Oct 21, 2023 by Kanjun Qiu · across every show →
Everything said about foundation model, oldest first
Oct 21, 2023 negative
Oct 21, 2023 positive
Qiu: Imbue generates specific reasoning data rather than relying on web data
“So I think internally, yeah, we have a lot of thoughts on what reasoning is, and we generate a lot more specific data. We're not just like, oh, it'll figure out reasoning from this black box or like, it'll figure out reasoning from the data that, that exists.”
Oct 21, 2023 bullish
Qiu: Code is the most explicit reasoning curriculum for AI models
“Code is the most explicit example of reasoning data on the internet. Yeah. And it's not only structured, it's actually very explicit, which is nice. You know, it says this variable means this and then it uses this variable and then the function does this. Like…”
Jan 2, 2024 bearish
Doshi: Image Generative AI Is Stuck in a 'GPT-2 Moment'
“So I think that we continue to feel like graphics and these foundation models for anything really related to pixels, but also definitely images continues to be very under invested. It feels a little like graphics is in like this GPT two moment, right? Like eve…”
Feb 8, 2024 negative
Prakash: Foundation models lack data moats and are constrained by capital
“There aren't really big data moats around foundation models. They are built from a subset of the web. What is difficult is the cost of capital to build these, and what, one of the ways in which you can reduce this cost is by making more efficient systems.”
Mar 27, 2024 bullish
Luan: Future AI value will shift from base models to agents
“In a world where foundation models are looking more and more commodity. And if, and I think a huge amount of gain is going to happen from how do you use foundation models as like the, like well learned behavioral cloner to go solve agents.”
Apr 11, 2024 neutral
Jun 11, 2024 bearish
Conover: Economic incentives to pre-train commodity foundation models from scratch are diminishing
“The incentives, the economic incentives for companies to train their own foundation models, I think, are diminishing. So the, like, window in which you are the dominant pre-train, and let's say that you spend five to forty million dollars, you know, for like a…”
Jun 25, 2024
Aug 17, 2024 negative
Dec 2, 2024 neutral
Simons: Base AI models provide a 10x lift; agent scaffolding adds 3-4x
“The model is like this sort of like 10 X multiplier. You're, how good the bottom line model is, huge, huge swing. And then kind of what you can do on top of that, you can squeeze out three, four X kind of more. And so that's kind of where the realm of, you kno…”
Feb 11, 2025 bearish
Sep 23, 2025 bullish
Oct 11, 2025 positive
Lenz: Training foundation models mirrors developing algorithmic trading strategies
“So, so it's very similar in terms of how you interpret results. You want to treat everything as a black box. You want to establish your bounds, you know, what are you, and I've had tons of experience in algotrading, both from making money and not making money …”
Oct 18, 2025 positive
Alex Shaw: Base model selection matters much more than agent frameworks
“And if you look at the difference between the same model and the biggest spread across agent frameworks versus the same agent framework and the biggest spread across models, It's much larger across models, which I think goes to show that like improving models …”
Oct 30, 2025 positive
Sands: Stripe runs domain foundation models with sub-100ms latency on charges
“Then you have a foundation model. Each, you know, charge becomes this like dense embedding. You start to see these Clusters sort of pop out and, you know, in real time that they're card testing and you can block them. So yes, it is happening on the charge path…”
Oct 30, 2025 bullish
Sands: AI Agents Will Make Fraud Decisions Within Six Months
“Now you can think about, okay, actually foundation model, text alignment, like human readable description of like why we're worried about this charge. And then today, a human tomorrow, an agent sitting on top of that and decisioning, like reasoning over The mo…”
Jan 28, 2026 bullish
White: FutureHouse bypassed custom foundation models to focus on scientific agents
“For example, at future house, we took the opinion that scientific agents are the future, and that allows us to skip a lot of steps because a lot of other people were like, we need to build a foundation model for X. Yeah. And we just skipped all that.”
Mar 24, 2026 bearish
May 2, 2026 neutral
AI model switching costs remain non-zero due to fragile harness optimizations
“People keep saying like the cost of switching between models is zero. It's cheap, but it's not zero because sometimes you like spend, you know, three, four months, like fine tuning exactly how the model should be, or like how the, Product should be. And then o…”
Jun 3, 2026 neutral
Nadella: Enterprise AI control requires private evals to switch underlying models safely
“Like, so in other words, another asset test is, you have an eval that's private. You're using a model A. Can you switch it to model B and, you know, climb up? If you can, then you're in control. If you can't, you're not in control.”
Jun 17, 2026 bullish
Jul 21, 2026 bullish
Jul 21, 2026 neutral
Wang: Virtual cells are a much broader concept than foundation models
“What's happening for this field is that we are lacking a concrete definition of virtual cells and people almost equate foundation model With virtual cell, but in my view, virtual cell is probably a much broader concept than just foundation models.”
Jul 22, 2026 neutral
Aug 21, 2026 bullish
Aug 21, 2026 bullish
Park: LLMs Trained on Web Data Can Accurately Simulate Human Behavior
“These models are actually trained on this very broad data from the web, right? So these are human behavioral data. It's the, it's social media, Wikipedia, all these kind of data. So if you poke At the right angle, then you could see human behavior that would j…”
Aug 26, 2026 neutral
AI has foundation models for language and vision but not physics
“Because we have foundation models for language, maybe vision, but not for physics. So, you know, the idea is instead of like right now what we've seen are narrow surrogates and we're trying to broaden their scope more and more, but ideally we have much broader…”