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32 statements across 17 episodes · 11 bullish · 8 bearish · 16 people on the record · first statement Mar 12, 2025 by Kelly Granat · said 109 times in 22 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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Everything said about Facebook, oldest first

Mar 12, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Granat: Lone Pine holds large Meta position for AI application commercialization
“And so that's part of why we have such a large position in Meta and have for the last bunch of years as we feel like that's the most real life example at scale of commercializing a lot of the capabilities in core products today, right?”
Kelly Granat Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 16:30 Kelly Granat - Investing At Lone Pine · Invest Like The Best
Mar 12, 2025 positive
Opinion
Granat: Mark Zuckerberg embodies bold bets, rapid pivots, and executive vulnerability
“Huge focus. Big bets. Willing to be wrong and pivot quickly when realizing that they are wrong. It's having, knowing when to be bold and when to be humble. Attracting, challenging, you know, motivating a really talented organization. And vulnerability.”
Kelly Granat Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 56:08 Kelly Granat - Investing At Lone Pine · Invest Like The Best
May 20, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Spotify risked overnight bankruptcy from high marginal costs if free-tier usage surged
“Spotify could never do that because we could go bankrupt overnight. So we always had to worry about monetization and the balance between free tier and pay tier conversion and free term monetization.”
Gustav Söderström May 20, 2025 ▶ 44:20 Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
Jun 10, 2025
Insight
Gurley: Believing You Cannot Overpay Is Rational If Assuming Meta-Like Scale
“People that have watched Google or Meta, you know, go from Looking expensive at twelve billion to three trillion. Like, if they assume something might be that, they can't overpay in their mind. Which I think is rational for the independent player.”
Bill Gurley Jun 10, 2025 ▶ 18:38 The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private with Bill Gurley · Invest Like The Best
Jun 10, 2025 negative
Insight
Gurley: Staying private indefinitely deprives companies of feedback that makes CEOs sharper
“The very best CEOs, and I put people like Barton and Vinny off in there. Even Mark at Meta has said this. They believe being public makes them run sharper. And one other negative of these companies staying private forever is they're not getting that feedback.”
Bill Gurley Jun 10, 2025 ▶ 1:17:40 The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private with Bill Gurley · Invest Like The Best
Sep 30, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Patel: Meta's Early AI Efforts Failed Due to Headcount and Weak Leadership
“In a sense, a lot of, like, Meta's problems before they did the superintelligence thing was that they just had too many people that weren't led by leadership, that was amazing and they had, like, a lot of failed experiments and wasted time doing things that di…”
Dylan Patel Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 51:15 Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview · Invest Like The Best
Sep 30, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Patel: Meta Is Only Company with Full Hardware, Model, and Recommender Stack
“And the only company in the world who has the full stack From good hardware that is a, you know, what Meta just showed with their glasses, with the screen, plus the good models plus the capacity to serve them, plus the knowledge and know-how around recommendat…”
Dylan Patel Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 1:53:25 Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview · Invest Like The Best
Sep 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: OpenAI and Meta waste massive amounts of compute exploring architectures
“They're wasting a ton of compute. They were, you know, maybe they still are, but you know, like, and everyone's wasting compute, right? OpenAI's wasting tons of compute. Because, you know, what's the Pareto optimal model architecture? Who knows?”
Dylan Patel Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 51:43 Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview · Invest Like The Best
Sep 30, 2025 neutral
Prediction Held up
Patel: xAI Will Build Biggest Data Center but Trail Big Tech Compute
“XAI can get to the next stage of compute. They won't have more compute than OpenAI. They won't have more compute than any individual company at Google, Meta, et cetera, but they will have the biggest individual data center”
Dylan Patel Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 1:51:34 Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview · Invest Like The Best
Sep 30, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Patel: ByteDance Is Second or Third Largest GPU User Globally
“They have ByteDance, who's, I think, the third largest user of GPUs in the world after OpenAI, and You know, probably Meta, although ByteDance may be bigger than Meta, the third largest user of GPUs in the world, or second maybe, even ByteDance is.”
Dylan Patel Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 1:35:16 Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview · Invest Like The Best
Sep 30, 2025 neutral
Prediction Partly held up
Patel: Hyperscalers will pause buybacks to reinvest in AI CapEx
“They're gonna, those companies aren't gonna do buybacks ever fucking again, right? Or not, like, ever again, but for a while. Because, like, they have way more, they think there's better ROI for their capital now.”
Dylan Patel Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 1:04:39 Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview · Invest Like The Best
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Zhang: Application-layer AI talent competition is less extreme than at Meta or OpenAI
“Unfortunately in the application layer, it is not as crazy as, you know, the metas and the opening eyes who are just like, there's only so many top level researchers.”
Jesse Zhang Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 59:59 The Future of AI Agents | Jesse Zhang Interview · Invest Like The Best
Oct 16, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Wang: Majority of Disclosed Meta AI Lab Hires Attended Chinese Universities
“And at least from what we can tell in some of the publicly listed hires for Meta's super intelligence lab a substantial number of these really elite. I think there are 11 engineers who are publicly disclosed. Something like seven of them had gone to Chinese un…”
Dan Wang Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 1:15:37 China vs America: The Battle for Global Dominance Explained | Dan Wang interview · Invest Like The Best
Dec 2, 2025
Insight
George: Vast Majority Of Tech Market Cap Creation Goes To The Leader
“The vast majority of market cap creation is going to go to the market leader. And this is probably underappreciated. Like we see this all the time with our peers in the growth investing industry, where they say things like, yeah, you know, even the number two …”
David George Dec 2, 2025 ▶ 23:06 How a16z Growth Invests · Invest Like The Best
Dec 9, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Meta and Microsoft failed to build competitive internal frontier AI models
“Because Meta threw a lot of money at it and they failed. Jan LeCun had to leave. They had to have the famous billion dollar for AI researchers. By the way, Microsoft also failed. They did not make such an unequivocal prediction, but they hire, but they bought …”
Gavin Baker Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 43:20 GPUs, TPUs, & The Economics of AI Explained | Gavin Baker Interview · Invest Like The Best
Jan 6, 2026
Disclosure
Hastings: Netflix's social experiments led him to join Facebook's board
“Probably eight solid years, and that's part of what got me on the Facebook board, which is trying to figure out more of this, of, you know, how is social going to be, and ultimately that probably got solved by TikTok.”
Reed Hastings Jan 6, 2026 ▶ 43:44 The Netflix Culture Code That Changed Entertainment Forever | Reed Hastings Interview · Invest Like The Best
Jan 6, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Hastings: Facebook succeeded expanding core ads like Instagram, struggled in crypto
“What I loved about looking at Facebook's business was, you know, ad supported and everything they did that was on the core, like Instagram worked incredibly well. And when they tried to do crypto or when they tried to do other things that were not big as a boa…”
Reed Hastings Jan 6, 2026 ▶ 19:08 The Netflix Culture Code That Changed Entertainment Forever | Reed Hastings Interview · Invest Like The Best
Jan 29, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Facebook Used an Annual Engagement Budget to Cap Disruption From Ads
“And so that's what, at Facebook, there was an engagement budget every year that between the newsfeed team and the ads team, we had to adhere to. In other words, ah, we, yes, we wanted this much revenue, but it, the check metric on the revenue was we can't take…”
Gokul Rajaram Jan 29, 2026 ▶ 51:51 He Built The Revenue Engines for Google, Facebook & Square · Invest Like The Best
Jan 29, 2026 bullish
Opinion
ChatGPT Possesses Far Better Intent and Identity Data Than Google or Meta
“ChatGPT. Their combination of intent and identity data is unparalleled. I mean, Google had intent data but not identity. Facebook identity but not intent. These things have been brought together.”
Gokul Rajaram Jan 29, 2026 ▶ 44:27 He Built The Revenue Engines for Google, Facebook & Square · Invest Like The Best
Feb 3, 2026
Insight
Horowitz: Elite AI Model Training Cannot Be Learned in Academia
“If you haven't been at like Google or Facebook or open AI or anthropic and like somebody gave you hundreds of millions of dollars to try and build a giant model and you weren't like one of the main people, then you probably don't know how to do it because you …”
Ben Horowitz Feb 3, 2026 ▶ 11:01 Why The Laws of Startup Physics Have Changed | Ben Horowitz Interview · Invest Like The Best
May 5, 2026 negative
Opinion
Chesky: Facebook has abandoned building the internet's most robust user profile
“I want to develop the most robust profile on the internet. I mean, it used to be Facebook. They've kind of abandoned that strategy.”
Brian Chesky May 5, 2026 ▶ 56:49 How Brian Chesky Is Redesigning Airbnb for the AI Era · Invest Like The Best
May 13, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Anthropic lost only two employees to Meta's aggressive AI talent poaching efforts
“When, you know, Meta and others were out, you know, with these huge packages for some of the technical talent in, in, across the large language labs, I think we lost two people and other labs lost dozens.”
Krishna Rao May 13, 2026 ▶ 1:06:18 Inside Anthropic's $100 Billion Al Compute Commitment | CFO Krishna Rao · Invest Like The Best
Jun 30, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Wachen: In-House AI Chip Failure Is Not Existential for Hyperscalers or OpenAI
“Meta won't fail if MTIA fails, Microsoft won't fail if Maya fails, and OpenAI won't fail if Jalapeno fails.”
Rob Wachen Jun 30, 2026 ▶ 56:21 The Two Harvard Dropouts Who raised $800M to take on NVIDIA · Invest Like The Best
Aug 4, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Baker: Hyperscaler Operating Cash Flow Growth Accelerated to 35% Adjusted
“If we look at operating cash flow, not free cash flow, operating cash flow from Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon has reported accelerated from 28 to 32. There are some actually pretty big unusual items now, like these hyperscalers, they always seem to have, like, b…”
Gavin Baker Aug 4, 2026 ▶ 4:45 Why the Markets Are Pricing AI Wrong | Gavin Baker · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 positive
What-if
Thompson: Meta would not lead in AI without Mark Zuckerberg
“In a world where Meta was run by anyone other than Mark Zuckerberg, they would not be on the leading edge.”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 55:45 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 bearish
Assertion Supported
Thompson: Meta Has Cumulatively Spent Over $100 Billion on Oculus
“The other problem is they've spent Cumulative hundred some billion dollars on Oculus”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 1:12:20 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 bearish
What-if
Thompson: Early OpenAI ad model would severely threaten Google and Meta
“There's a bit where had they leaned into advertising immediately as soon as ChatGPT was a hit, I think they would have a killer ad product right now. I think that Google would be in much bigger trouble. I think Meta would be in much bigger trouble”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 30:20 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 bearish
Insight
Thompson: In-House AI Content Degrades Meta's Zero-Cost Content Margins
“For meta, AI-generated content, to the extent they're the ones generating it, is actually a worse margin profile than what they have today, because what they have today is free.”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 1:05:16 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 positive
Opinion
Thompson: Google and Meta Monetize AI Far More Than OpenAI or Anthropic
“Biggest impact of the models, the biggest monetization right now is probably not anthropic opening. It's the incremental gain that is happening for Google and meta.”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 1:07:25 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 positive
Opinion
Thompson: Chinese AI labs remain 6 to 9 months behind frontier models
“I think OpenAI and Anthropic are clearly on the frontier. Who knows what's happening with Google and then Grok and Meta are chasing them. Meanwhile, the Chinese are very capable, very smart, and also definitely distilling these models to sort of stay about six…”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 4:53 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 18, 2026 negative
What-if
Thompson: Meta Would Be Better Positioned If It Championed Advertising
“I think if they had made that Communicate that more consistently. They would be in a better place generally from a PR perspective. They would have been a better place relative to Apple, and I think they would have an easier time right now convincing Wall Stree…”
Ben Thompson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 1:11:58 What Happens When the AI Boom Runs Out of Money · Invest Like The Best
Aug 25, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Movva: Meta and OpenAI purchases have consumed AMD's chip supply
“I think publicly, Meta and OpenAI have bought a ton of AMD chips, and so, we're increasingly seeing that all the AMD supply is also being allocated.”
Neil Movva Aug 25, 2026 ▶ 47:06 Ex-NVIDIA Engineer: Why AI Is About to Get 1000x Cheaper
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