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Wurwand: Dermalogica launched on $14,000 with zero outside funding or debt
“We had 14,000 dollars of self-funding, and we've never take, we never took outside funding, all the way through to the acquisition. We'd never had, we had no debt,”
Wurwand: Startups must niche into one target market before expanding
“And I think niching is really important when you're a startup. Directing your Energy and time and attention at one target market. You can expand once you secure that, but start off in something that you feel strongly you've got a unique position in.”
Wurwand: Brands should educate before selling to create genuine buying intent
“I always say, tell, don't sell. You're not ready to sell until I am ready to buy. And I, the way I would be ready to buy as a consumer is I want to want your product. I want to understand what it does.”
Wurwand: Early-Stage Food Brands Should Avoid Supermarkets Like Kroger and Whole Foods
“I would not go to a big supermarket. Don't go anywhere near a Kroger or even a Whole Foods yet. Not yet. Not now. Because they could eat you alive with the terms they would want, the amount of product you'd have to supply, and you would be carrying the cost of…”
Wurwand: Paradis Sport should not expand into new categories yet
“I wouldn't charge into swimwear and shorts and all the rest of it until you've got a great product going here, and you've got great attention from press. I wouldn't spread yourself too thin.”
Wurwand: Outside experts do not know your business better than founders
“There are people that have more experience, and they may have had more success, and they may have made more money, but it doesn't mean that they're experts about your business. You know your business the best.”
Wurwand: Up-skilling American estheticians was the skincare industry's biggest opportunity
“I thought, I think we've just spotted the greatest opportunity in this industry, and that is train Americans how to do better skin treatments, and combining with that, retailing and selling.”
Wurwand: Salon treatments are fundamentally about human connection and touch
“More importantly, when you receive a treatment in a salon, it's about human connection and human touch. And there's something much bigger happening in every salon than just the service you're receiving.”
Wurwand: Skincare brands need a full product suite to win professional therapists
“Well, because we needed to go in with a full footprint. If we went in with one or two products, we couldn't Capture a skin therapist's attention and say, you need to use this exclusively in your room, and you need to sell this to your clients. It wouldn't have…”
Dermalogica committed exclusively to professional skin therapist distribution
“No, no. Because I'm a skin therapist. We knew that this was an educated sale. It had to be people that understood the skin. And also, these were the people that brought us to the party. And my mum, another piece of advice she gave me was, you leave the party w…”
Wurwand: Outside CEOs struggle when founders insist on having the last word
“The problem probably wasn't the CEOs, the problem was probably us, because we are the founders, you know, we have this sort of, ah, passion about the ownership, and it's very hard to run a company when the founders are in place and kind of want to have the las…”
Wurwand: Biggest skincare opportunity was training Americans in treatments and retailing
“I think we've just spotted the greatest opportunity in this industry, and that is train Americans how to do better skin treatments, and combining with that, retailing and selling.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica Needed a Full Product Line to Win Therapists
“Well, because we needed to go in with a full footprint. If we went in with one or two products, we couldn't Capture a skin therapist's attention and say, you need to use this exclusively in your room, and you need to sell this to your clients. It wouldn't have…”
Wurwand: Dermalogica's wholesale revenue surpassed $250 million prior to Unilever acquisition
“And last year, our wholesale turnover was a little north of two hundred and fifty million dollars.”
Wurwand: External CEOs struggle when active founders insist on final say
“It's very hard to run a company when the founders are in place and Kind of want to have the last word.”
Wurwand: The International Dermal Institute bundled esthetics classes with equipment sales
“Ray was going to still sell equipment, he was going to stay on the road, I was going to teach, I was going to use the equipment he was selling in the classes I was teaching, sell the equipment after the class, and we called it the International Dermal Institut…”
Wurwand: Only about 2,300 estheticians were licensed in California in 1983
“I called the State Board of Cosmetology in Sacramento, California, and I called them and I said, do you have a list of everyone licensed in the state of California to perform skincare treatments? And it was a very short list. It was like 2300 names.”
Wurwand: No American-made skincare products existed in the salon industry in 1980s
“And I realized there were no American-made products in the salon industry. There were tons in the department store and in the drug store. There was nothing in the salon industry.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica paid its founding chemist based on manufacturing volume, not sales
“So we figured out, Raymond figured out this amazing kind of way of paying him based on the first two years of manufactured products. So a percentage of The product that we manufactured, not a percentage of sales, because we wanted to make sure he was tied into…”
Dermalogica's chemist reneged on deferred payments right before their 1986 launch
“So we launched in January of 1986, and the crazy thing was the chemist who developed these formulas, who we were going to pay off over a two-year period, came to us in December of 85, so a month before we were due to launch, and said that he did not believe in…”
Wurwand negotiated a $14,000 buyout to acquire Dermalogica's original formulas
“Well, I mean, he wanted something extraordinary, and we whittled him down, and it came down to, you know, sort of, 14,000 dollars.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica generated $1 million in first-year revenue
“Did a million dollars in our first year.”
Wurwand: IDI trains 100,000 skin therapists annually worldwide
“And the International Dermal Institute is now the number one provider of advanced education in the industry worldwide. We train a 100,000 skin therapists every single year.”
Dermalogica's wholesale revenue exceeded $250 million prior to its acquisition
“And last year, ah, our wholesale turnover was a little north of two hundred and fifty million dollars.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica refused all buyout calls to avoid distraction
“We'd never taken a phone call from anyone that was interested in buying, never even taken a call, because we said we don't even want to have the conversation. It's a distraction.”
Wurwand: 1980s U.S. fashion media and dermatologists largely ignored skincare
“I mean, you could pick up magazines then, Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, fashion magazines, there were always articles on makeup, there was nothing on skincare. The dermatologists were all saying, oh, you can use anything, you can use soap and water.”
Wurwand: Salon treatments are primarily about human connection and touch
“When you receive a treatment in a salon, it's about human connection and human touch. And there's something much bigger happening in every salon than just the service you're receiving.”
Wurwand bought California's entire licensed esthetician directory on labels for $25
“And I said, can you sell me the list? And they said, yes, we can sell you the list. It's 25 dollars. And would you like us to print it on Avery Labels? And I said, yes, please. And they did.”
Jane Wurwand: No American-Made Skincare Products Existed in 1980s Salons
“And I realized there were no American-made products in In the salon industry. There were tons in the department store and in the drug store. There was nothing in the salon industry.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica paid first chemist in manufactured product royalties
“Raymond figured out this amazing kind of way of paying him based on the first two years of manufactured products. So a percentage of The product that we manufactured, not a percentage of sales, because we wanted to make sure he was tied into the fact that if w…”
Wurwand: Dermalogica Developed 27 Formulas in Nine Months
“I mean, and in nine months, we had developed 27 formulas, and we'd named them in one afternoon.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica bought out its chemist's formulas for $14,000 before launch
“Well, I mean, he wanted something extraordinary, and we whittled him down, and it came down to, you know, sort of, 14,000 dollars.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica reached $1 million in revenue in its first year
“Did a million dollars in our first year.”
Wurwand: IDI trains 100,000 skin therapists annually
“We train a 100,000 skin therapists every single year.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica founders retained minority stake and involvement after Unilever acquisition
“Raymond and I kept a small percentage of the company and we're still involved.”
Wurwand: Practical skill training guarantees universal employability and independence
“The five words that changed my life were my mom saying to my sisters and myself, learn how to do something. Learn how to do something. She was absolutely adamant that we, each of us, had to get a skill set training, that no matter what happened, if we were som…”
Wurwand: International Dermal Institute's original goal was training estheticians for financial independence
“The plan was to train the professional Skin therapist, then called an esthetician, and we were going to take everyone who was licensed, and we were going to bridge it to the two-year training that we felt would bring them up to a level of proficiency where the…”
Wurwand: First direct mail postcard drew 70 responses in 24 hours
“We were hoping we'd get, I don't know, like a dozen responses. We had 70 responses within 24 hours.”
IDI initially generated just enough to pay rent and a $300 stipend
“We were actually earning enough to pay the rent for the school and cover 300 dollars a month for me. I was taking 300 dollars a month out of the business to just sort of buy underwear and pantyhose.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica launched without mineral oil, fragrance, alcohol, or artificial color
“I wanted no mineral oil, no fragrance, no drying alcohol, no artificial color.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica used utilitarian grey-and-white bottles and tubes over ornate jars
“Yeah, we stepped forward with no jars, only bottles and tubes, and we didn't have sort of pink jars with gold tops and pink boxes. We had grey and white packaging.”
Wurwand: Dermalogica formulated 27 products within nine months
“I mean, and in nine months, we had developed 27 formulas, and we'd named them in one afternoon.”
Wurwand: US market size justified launching Dermalogica on 1% penetration
“And we did the classic immigrant thing where, look at the population, it only takes one percent of the population to buy one product, and it's already enormous, bigger than it could ever be in the UK.”
Wurwand: Sun avoidance is the single best skincare practice
“The single best thing you can do for your skin is keep it out of the sun.”
Wurwand: IDI's founding goal was to make estheticians financially independent
“The plan was to train the professional
Skin therapist, then called an esthetician, and we were going to take everyone who was licensed, and we were going to bridge it to the two-year training that we felt would bring them up to a level of proficiency where th…”
Wurwand: IDI's initial model integrated equipment sales with practical skin therapy teaching
“Ray was going to still sell equipment, he was going to stay on the road, I was going to teach, I was going to use the equipment he was selling in the classes I was teaching, sell the equipment after the class, and we called it the International Dermal Institut…”
Wurwand: California had only about 2,300 licensed skincare professionals when IDI launched
“So I called the State Board of Cosmetology in Sacramento, California, and I called them and I said, do you have a list of everyone licensed in the state of California to perform skincare treatments? And it was a very short list. It was like 2300 names.”