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McCaughan: 1980s punk shows were all-ages unlike standard music clubs

Mac McCaughan · Merge Records: Laura Ballance and Mac McCaughan · Dec 6, 2021 · at 10:46

Merge Records co-founder Mac McCaughan reflects on discovering live hardcore and punk music as a teenager in North Carolina.

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“Punk shows were usually all ages, unlike... Shows at the clubs where you would hear a song on the radio by a band, like on college radio, and you'd be like, oh, this band, you know, the Rain Parade, they're playing at the Cat's Cradle, and you'd be really into it, and then realize, like, you couldn't go to that show, because it was drinking age only.”

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