Feb 19, 2018 · 31m · how-i-built-this
Warby Parker: Dave Gilboa & Neil Blumenthal (2016)
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In this episode of NPR's 'How I Built This,' host Guy Raz explores how Warby Parker co-founders Dave Gilboa and Neil Blumenthal disrupted the monopolized eyewear industry to build a billion-dollar direct-to-consumer empire.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Guy holds 32.4% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Guy as informed peer 1.8 Guest teaching 2.7 Guest disagreement 0.2 Guy pushing back 0.8
speaking balance: gold is Guy, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:35 Wharton professor dismisses disruptive pricing premise
Neil recounts how their marketing professor openly laughed off their business model, forcefully arguing that slashing prices tenfold breaks consumer believability regarding quality.
Hardest push from Guy ▶ 15:41 Guy challenges the credibility of their PR pitchGuy refuses to accept that major fashion editors would take business students seriously when their website did not even exist yet, calling the dynamic crazy.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 4:21 Neil breaks down Luxottica's retail and insurance gripNeil details how Luxottica controls retail storefronts, designer licenses, and eye insurance plans, thoroughly educating Guy on the hidden monopoly driving eyeglass prices.
Guy holds their own ▶ 19:46 Guy questions whether viral backlog was actually a catastrophic failureGuy pushes Dave and Neil to look past the flattering narrative of high demand to address whether a nine-month waitlist risked fatally alienating early adopters.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Guy as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Guy pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Wharton Meeting and Uncovering the Eyewear Monopoly | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Neil Blumenthal educates Guy Raz on the concentrated structure of the eyewear industry, explaining that Luxottica owns retail chains, top designer licenses, and major vision insurance. Guy responds with genuine astonishment and prompt-style clarifying questions. | |
| Developing the Business Model, Home Try-On, and Pricing Strategy | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | The founders describe overcoming consumer reluctance to buy eyewear online through home try-on and explain how pricing psychology led them to pick $95 over $45. Guy asks straightforward narrative questions about feasibility and price testing. | |
| Selecting the Warby Parker Name and Mid-Episode Break | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | Guy presses on how improbable it was for elite fashion publications like GQ and Vogue to cover four unproven MBA students without an active website. Neil explains their strategic approach to PR framing and product novelty. | |
| Launch Day Deluge, Backlog Crisis, and Customer Service Grind | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Dave and Neil recount the overwhelming launch day demand, lack of website inventory controls, and nine-month waitlists. Guy explores whether a massive initial backlog is actually a lethal operational problem rather than a pure triumph. | |
| Creative Financing, Scaling Operations, and Reaching Unicorn Valuation | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | The co-founders describe securing non-traditional funding via an SBA loan and barter consulting before hitting a unicorn valuation. Guy asks them to dissect how much of their billion-dollar valuation was raw luck versus deliberate execution. | |
| How You Built That: Adam Masters and the Beliac | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | In the 'How You Built That' segment, Guy narrates and interviews Adam Masters on inventing the Beliac watercraft and pivoting his target audience to disabled veterans. |
Statements from this episode (15)
Blumenthal: Luxottica has a market cap of around $30 billion
“Luxottica has a market cap of about thirty billion dollars.”
Blumenthal: Luxottica owns EyeMed, the US's second-largest vision insurer
“They own the second largest vision insurance plan in the country, IMED.”
Gilboa: Warby Parker was eliminated in Wharton's business plan semifinals
“We entered the Wharton Business Plan Competition. And we got eliminated in the semifinal round.”
Gilboa: No company offered a home try-on program before Warby Parker
“And that's when kind of this light bulb went off for the home try-on program, which really no, no company was offering until that time”
Blumenthal: Warby Parker priced at $95 over $99 to avoid looking cheap
“So one thought was, should we charge 99 dollars? And we felt that was too discounty and cheap, and we were building an aspirational brand. So we actually settled on 95 dollars using just our instinct, thinking that this doesn't sound cheap and that it looks de…”
Warby Parker co-founders tested over 2,000 candidate names before launching
“I think we still have our spreadsheet of over 2000 names that we tested on our very patient friends.”
Warby Parker name originates from Jack Kerouac characters Warby Pepper and Zag Parker
“Two early Jack Kerouac characters that Dave actually discovered When he went to the New York Public Library exhibit on Kerouac, and two of the characters were Warby Pepper and Zag Parker.”
Gilboa: Warby Parker founders invested $120,000 and took no salary for 18 months
“We invested a 120,000 dollars between the four of us to get the business off the ground, and, you know, we worked for a year and a half with Outpaying ourselves a salary. We didn't have an office. We did win a couple of grants from Wharton, so that, that helpe…”
Gilboa: Warby Parker met with almost 50 PR firms before launch
“We had meetings with almost 50 PR firms, and part of it was us evaluating them, but at the same time, we had to sell ourselves to those PR firms, and, right, there's nothing less sexy in the fashion world than four MBAs from Wharton.”
Blumenthal: PR effectiveness is 30% messenger and 70% message
“We often say that PR is, I think, 30% the messenger, 70% the message”
Warby Parker Amassed 20,000-Customer Waitlist in Four Weeks
“Within a four-week period, we'd sold out of
Our best-selling styles.
We had a wait list of 20,000 customers.”
Warby Parker Took Nine Months to Clear Initial Waitlist
“For a lot of those customers, it took us upwards of nine months to get through the wait list.”
Blumenthal: 17 of 18 banks rejected Warby Parker for lacking tax history
“We went to 18 different banks, and only one would talk to us, and again, this was 2010, so soon after the financial crisis, and what all these loan officers said is, hey, we've never seen such a beautiful business plan, we've never seen a company That has such…”