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“So there is a future In my opinion, for those companies to get to not just net zero on a on a basis of using offsets or other things, but actually truly having zero carbon power”

“And we did meet that goal of a hundred percent renewable What I think is even. In 2017, exactly.”

“This is a fundamental sea change in how we do it, and it's considerably harder than what we had been accomplished up to that date.”

“When I was at Google, one of the things we did was we created the ability to basically forecast forward power prices grid constraints, carbon content and then dynamically move our load around to take advantage of that. So if there was a storm and there was goi…”

“I can tell you when we were building data centers at Google, you know, in some places it took us seven years to get transmission access. In other places it took us, you know, 18 months to two years.”

“The first PPA that ever got signed for enhanced geothermal in the United States from Fervo was with Google.”

“PUE is now pretty much flat when you adjusted for seasons since the 21. This is data from Google's data centers, and they're about as transparent as you can get with this figure.”

“And so there is, I think at this point, a point of coming to grips with the fact that those targets are probably not achievable in the time horizons that they had all set.”

“Intersect partnered with TPG, which is a big investment firm, and Google on a partnership that initially will inject about eight hundred million dollars into Intersect to develop solar and storage and wind and some gas co-located with data centers in the Unite…”

“The smaller plant sizes, the small modular reactors you're looking at for Google, can probably fit about a hundred acres or so or less.”

“They made investment, you know, mostly in the technology, but increasingly as this deal we're doing now with Google is in the upfront development, which is really the key part that needs to be re-risked.”

“Elemental came out of stealth this week and announced a big partnership with Google to develop a three-site portfolio of at least 1.8 gigawatts of new nuclear in the U.S.”

“Fervo Energy, notably, has PPAs, both with utilities and with Google, for hundreds of megawatts of new development.”

“Google actually made a big announcement about doing this at their data centers just a few weeks ago. They've announced that they've partnered with two utilities, Michigan Power and TVA, to introduce demand response via workload flexibility in their data center…”

“Google also, by the way, has exploited temporal flexibility. There was a Paper, a post they put out a couple years ago, a friend of mine, Varun Mehra, wrote it about moving video indexing operations to nighttime in order to reduce load during periods, as you m…”

“Historically, a data center might lose 33% of the power or use it, 33% of that power for non-IT or information technology uses, and the remaining 66 or 67% goes into actual computations. Nowadays, with the increasingly customized design of these AI factories a…”

“You know, about five startups later and three buyouts later, I realized the startup world in energy was much different than Google. It was more of a pay decline. Type of buyout rather than a, you know, million dollar buyout you see in the tech world.”

“Google's PUE is close to 1.1, which is to say for every watt going to compute, there's an additional .1 watts going to the overheads of power delivery or cooling or whatever.”

“Google now, ah, has reached a gigawatt of contracted flexible capacity across, I think, five different utility territories, at least some of whom, ah, are willing to provide some of these benefits.”

“And the difference between storage and compute was at most 10 X. The difference between storage and accelerators are approaching a hundred X.”

“In March, we actually hit a significant milestone in agreements with utilities for a gigawatt of demand response across our fleet.”

“Many of our data centers aim for four nines of, I mean, minutes of downtime a year maximum, which as you said has a large amount of costs associated with it.”

“Without saying too much, it's happening. I would say there's actually the co-design there with our customers at Google has been one of our sources of significant efficiency.”

“No, it is not intrinsic and we should be thinking about lower reliability power delivery overall.”

“In other words, for us, for let's say our TPUs, we co-design them with a building. We co-design them with the power generation source. We co-design them with the DeepMind team that builds Gemini models. So it's the software above, the models above that, the ch…”

“So as these services become more interactive, as they become more efficient, and that, that is still going to be a journey. We're not there today. You're going to want to have geographic locality. That's also going to impact reliability, because again, you can…”

“We don't do this, but yes, others.”

“We like behind the meter if it means that we get the capacity up most quickly, but we're always going to look to invest with the utilities to bring the transmission. Maybe it's a year after. Maybe it's two years after, right?”

“You don't strictly need a gigawatt of capacity to be able to do useful work. You probably don't even need a hundred megawatts of capacity. It gets a little bit more interesting than that because of, let's say, co-located compute and storage and networking and …”

“If compute is not the dominant portion of your cost, you actually want to have flexibility and fungibility. When compute becomes a more dominant portion of your cost, you now actually are thinking, okay, what am I going to do for this year, next year, and the …”

“It'll really come down to geographic locality and probably a medium number of medium-sized data centers. Sorry for the whatever lack of precision there, but medium number of medium-sized data centers augmented with a small number of large data centers.”

“When delivering the end-to-end, we unfortunately don't have the luxury of focusing on a single limiter. I would say very sincerely and honestly at 10 a.m. It's labor, at noon it's power, and at two p.m. It's chips every single day.”

“In their complaints to FERC, for example, a bunch of states have cited that pledge, and I think that creates it's an opening for any time anyone wants to argue against however a tariff is getting structured, or a new transmission line, or whatever it might be …”

“The bulk of these contracted loads, I think at the end of 25, we had like a 150 gigawatts the PPL, you know, in, in, in Pennsylvania. That's mostly Google and Amazon. They're the ones sort of scouting all of the utility markets and you know, putting deposits a…”

“If you look at how much capital they have sort of indirectly deployed, it's already fifty billion dollars of sort of applications that they have on their balance sheets that are solely in sort of the goal of supporting Anthropix data center build out.”

“Anthropic, you know, one and a half gigs of capacity end of 20, 25. By 27, they won over 10 gigs, right? So they're going to build basically more than eight gigawatts in two years. That's the size of Google today.”

“I don't think I wouldn't call Microsoft now the second. I probably would rank them fourth now. I think you've seen Amazon step up pretty dramatically, and you've seen them at the frontier of a bunch of, you know, unique type of deals.”

“I think Google's energy team is probably a multiple of the size of the next hyperscaler. Just the number, the sheer number of people they have dedicated to it.”

“Generally speaking, I think it's fair to say that Google is the most sophisticated company. And on the energy side, they have sort of the biggest, you know, trading desks. They've choked some pretty big deals with utilities, as you probably know, for low flexi…”

“It's actually becoming a pretty existential risk for NVIDIA because if they don't support the NeoClouds, they're at risk of basically seeing Google Amazon and others take tremendous market share on the silicon side, right? So you would see Tranium take, take m…”

“Google maybe is the best at this, have a playbook where you address all of those things as close to upfront as you can, and you offer a lot in exchange to the community.”