electric vehicles

also referred to as: electric vehicle · ev · evs

64 statements across 35 episodes · 31 bullish · 15 bearish · 27 people on the record · first statement Jan 31, 2022 by Mary Powell · across every show →

Everything said about electric vehicles, oldest first

Jan 31, 2022 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Powell: Rooftop solar is the gateway to heat pump and EV adoption
“Solar so much is the gateway to so much more electrification. So what we find is customers that go solar, they do tend to be the first adopters of heat pumps. They then do tend to be the first adopters of electric vehicles, and so they really, so one of the re…”
Mary Powell Jan 31, 2022 ▶ 41:04 The future of the home solar market
Mar 11, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Pierpoint: California EVs could reach 5 million by 2030
“By 2030, the number of solar panels could nearly double, and the number of EVs on the road could increase five times to about five million.”
Lara Pierpoint Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 2:56 What the grid can learn from the internet
Mar 17, 2022 bullish
Opinion
Schroeder: EV industry must achieve megawatt charging capability for long trips
“I think that is where we have to go. We have to get to a point where we have megawatt charging capability.”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 11:15 When will batteries take over the world?
Mar 17, 2022 bullish
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Global EV market share doubled in 2021 to around 9%
“Market share globally for EVs doubled last year. It's up to around nine percent”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 6:56 When will batteries take over the world?
Mar 17, 2022 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: EV market will use multiple battery chemistries, not one holy grail
“I definitely am not a believer in a single holy grail of batteries that, that solves all problems. I think it's, you know, it's going to be a number of solutions to solve different application cases”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 24:51 When will batteries take over the world?
Mar 17, 2022 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: EV batteries will not solve extended renewable generation lulls
“I don't think that solves long periods of no wind, no solar, but it certainly has to help for lots of things.”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 52:56 When will batteries take over the world?
Mar 17, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: EVs reduce lifecycle emissions even factoring in battery manufacturing
“You know, the first proposition is we need to get EV adoption up because it does actually reduce greenhouse gas emissions, even if you consider the energy that's embedded in production of the battery itself.”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 28:17 When will batteries take over the world?
Mar 17, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schroeder: Grid-connected EVs will offset some dedicated grid storage demand
“We are inherently going to be putting huge amounts of lithium ion on the grid in the form of, you know, EVs. And so I think at least for demand response, there's something there, right? There's some offset that, you know, to other storage that would be needed,…”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 52:32 When will batteries take over the world?
Mar 17, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: EVs have fewer fires per vehicle than ICE cars
“There are still a lot fewer of them on a per EV basis than there are internal combustion engine vehicle fires on a per ICE basis.”
Dave Schroeder Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 16:32 When will batteries take over the world?
Apr 21, 2022
Assertion Supported
House: EVs require three times more copper mass than ICE cars
“An EV, as you probably know, requires about three X copper, three X mass of copper, than an equivalent internal combustion car.”
Kurt House Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 7:14 The great rush for battery metals
Jun 23, 2022 neutral
Insight
Kann: Battery OEMs will always prioritize EVs over stationary grid storage
“Battery OEMs, all things equal, will pick EVs over stationary storage, because they're going to sell way more batteries into electric vehicles than they are into the grid. So if they have to pick and choose and they're limited in supply stationary storage is g…”
Shayle Kann Jun 23, 2022 ▶ 18:02 Which tech is overhyped, underhyped and just right?
Jul 21, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jaffe: Manganese-rich cathodes could become the most common EV chemistry by 2030
“Manganese is a inherently cheaper material and is going to end up, if they can make that middle bucket work really well, is going to be the, I think the most common Chemistry of choice for cars by the end of the decade.”
Sam Jaffe Jul 21, 2022 ▶ 35:48 Seeking the holy grail of batteries
Jul 21, 2022 negative
Insight
Jaffe: Treating battery cells as outsourced commodities was a critical OEM mistake
“And that's what we've learned in the last 10 years of the development of the electric vehicle, is that the car is the battery. And it's not just the battery pack. The car is the battery cell. The car is the battery chemistry. And for the car company to just sl…”
Sam Jaffe Jul 21, 2022 ▶ 13:53 Seeking the holy grail of batteries
Jul 21, 2022 negative
Insight
Jaffe: Fast charging is a nice-to-have rather than essential for EV owners
“Fast charging is something that a new is going to appeal to a new buyer that's never owned an electric vehicle before, but once they get used to it, they realize this is a nice to have, not a requirement.”
Sam Jaffe Jul 21, 2022 ▶ 39:34 Seeking the holy grail of batteries
Aug 11, 2022 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Bowe: EV Share of New Car Sales Is ~30% in Europe, 5-6% in US
“You know, we're almost up to thirty-ish percent of New vehicle sales in Europe are EVs. We're more kind of five, six percent in the U.S.”
Cassie Bowe Aug 11, 2022 ▶ 4:29 Will charging infrastructure be a bottleneck for electric vehicles?
Sep 29, 2022 bullish
Prediction Held up
Jaffe: EVs will hit about 6% of new US sales by 2024
“We think that we're going to get to about six percent by 2024, six percent of new cars sold will be EVs.”
Sam Jaffe Sep 29, 2022 ▶ 38:51 Is the Inflation Reduction Act a win for EVs and batteries?
Nov 10, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lubershain: Deep cold heat pumps add peak load equal to two EVs
“Roughly speaking for a typical U.S. Household, it means adding new peak load to that home that's equivalent to about, ah, two electric vehicles that are plugged into level two chargers, ah, during those cold periods.”
Andy Lubershane Nov 10, 2022 ▶ 33:21 Unleashing the magic of heat pumps
Jan 18, 2023 positive
Insight
Popham: Utilities must lead publicly on EV strategy or lose regulatory influence
“The first thing you should kind of do as utility is decide what your strategy and your outcomes are and then make that public. Have a public vision to your strategy you know, be a speaker and be seen as a leader, because what's going to happen is there's a lot…”
Carl Popham Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 13:00 Introducing: With Great Power, a show about the people building the future grid
Jan 18, 2023 bullish
Insight
Popham: Off-peak EV charging soaks up excess grid capacity profitably.
“EVs charge a lot at night, they charge in the morning, so they're charged off-peak. So it's very profitable in that You don't have to build all this new infrastructure like there's new buildings. It's soaking up excess capacity of your transmission and distrib…”
Carl Popham Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 18:15 Introducing: With Great Power, a show about the people building the future grid
Jan 18, 2023 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Popham: Selling an EV takes two hours versus 40 minutes for gas.
“Historically, to sell an EV could take up to two hours, and to sell a gas car takes 40 minutes.”
Carl Popham Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 2:39 Introducing: With Great Power, a show about the people building the future grid
Jan 26, 2023 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2030
Sachs: EVs will provide up to 25% of grid services by 2030
“We expect by 2030 that EVs will make up somewhere between a fifth and a quarter to that contribution.”
Matthew Sachs Jan 26, 2023 ▶ 39:26 The journey to monetizing DERs
Mar 2, 2023 bullish
Assertion Supported
Bullard: EVs account for more than 100% of auto industry growth
“More than a hundred percent of the auto industry's growth It's coming from electric vehicles. Like, they are the only growth, ah, cohort within cars.”
Nat Bullard Mar 2, 2023 ▶ 5:10 More 2023 trends: EVs, onshoring, and the three ages of decarbonization
Mar 2, 2023
Assertion Partly supported
Bullard: Global electric fleet reached 287M two-wheelers versus 27M passenger cars
“We've now reached twenty seven million electric vehicles, passenger vehicles on the road. We have two hundred and eighty seven million electric two wheelers on the road, and fewer than a million electric buses and electric commercial vehicles.”
Nat Bullard Mar 2, 2023 ▶ 12:05 More 2023 trends: EVs, onshoring, and the three ages of decarbonization
Apr 6, 2023 neutral
Prediction Held up
Jaffe: Most EVs Sold Through Early 2025 Will Remain Luxury Vehicles
“Over the next 12 to 24 months, we're still going to be living in a world where most electric vehicles sold are luxury or near luxury vehicles.”
Sam Jaffe Apr 6, 2023 ▶ 16:33 What the new Treasury rules mean for EV supply chains
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
EVs require 2.5 times more copper than gas-powered cars
“And especially in EVs, like really in, in electric vehicles, they use like two and a half times as much copper as a traditional internal combustion engine vehicle does.”
Shayle Kann Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 4:12 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Aug 31, 2023 negative
Insight
Kann: EV adoption cannot scale without solving managed charging
“If we don't figure out managed charging, then there's basically no way EVs scale up to the scale that we need them to.”
Shayle Kann Aug 31, 2023 ▶ 10:41 Can the V2X dream become reality?
Aug 31, 2023 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Kann: Concentrated EV charging has doubled peak load on local distribution circuits
“There are real examples of neighborhoods with lots of electric vehicles, everyone charging at the same time during peak hours, And effectively doubling the peak load on that circuit.”
Shayle Kann Aug 31, 2023 ▶ 4:37 Can the V2X dream become reality?
Oct 12, 2023 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Houser: A third EV manufacturing hub is emerging in Nevada and Arizona
“What is surprising is we're starting to see this third EV manufacturing hub emerge in the U.S. Southwest, which has never really made cars before. Arizona, Nevada, tied to California, and a lot of the innovation economy in California, and it's, it appears to b…”
Trevor Houser Oct 12, 2023 ▶ 29:19 How is U.S. industrial policy affecting actual climatetech investment?
Nov 3, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kann: Clean energy delivered costs may rise in the short-to-medium term
“In the short to maybe midterm the actual delivered cost of energy or, you know, mobility, if you're an electric vehicle on or whatever it is, it might go up if you're choosing the clean option.”
Shayle Kann Nov 3, 2023 ▶ 44:17 The Volts crossover episode
Nov 3, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kann: Mineral shortages could cause 5-to-10-year stalls in EV adoption
“It's that we'll have like periods of more like five years or 10 years where we do have a shortage and the shortage doesn't translate to we can't sell any more electric vehicles. To higher costs for electric vehicles. And that translates to lower demand. And th…”
Shayle Kann Nov 3, 2023 ▶ 1:01:10 The Volts crossover episode
Nov 30, 2023 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Woolley: Unmanaged EV charging could increase peak grid load by 50%
“A first level, which is unmanaged, which is really bad for the grid. We just get load happening at peak times, and that, that is going to be really, really bad for the grid. Some estimates say that that's going to be, like, an increase of peak load by, like, 5…”
Nick Woolley Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 22:35 EV charging on both sides of the pond
Nov 30, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Woolley: UK energy retailers offer discounted type-of-use tariffs for managed EV charging
“The propositions that are being rolled out in competitive markets like the UK are tariffs which have now become known as what's called type of use tariffs. So a type of use tariff is a tariff that applies to a specific device within your home, like an electric…”
Nick Woolley Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 19:13 EV charging on both sides of the pond
Nov 30, 2023 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kann: Vehicle-to-grid power will happen long term but not quickly
“I think in the long arc of history, it probably does happen, because at some point, you just look at the total capacity that's going to be sitting in batteries at people's homes overnight, and the notion that we would never use it to support the needs of the g…”
Shayle Kann Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 35:37 EV charging on both sides of the pond
Nov 30, 2023
Insight
Woolley: Vehicle purchase point is the best time to enroll EV drivers in charging programs
“And so the best point to enroll a customer on a program is the point at which they're purchasing an electric vehicle.”
Nick Woolley Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 26:49 EV charging on both sides of the pond
Nov 30, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Woolley: EV purchases often trigger home solar and DER adoption
“When you buy an EV, you often buy solar panels as well. Or you get other DERs that are associated with your home, because you start to become very aware about, like, the whole home and the ecosystem and how you're managing your energy.”
Nick Woolley Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 30:48 EV charging on both sides of the pond
Nov 30, 2023 negative
Assertion Supported
Woolley: Some California EV drivers pay punitive rates without changing charging habits
“However, what we see in California with some of our partners that we're working with, what they've done is they've rolled out time of use rates, and they've sort of forced that on consumers. And so, and some of those consumers have not changed their behavior a…”
Nick Woolley Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 25:17 EV charging on both sides of the pond
Feb 1, 2024
Assertion Contradicted
Cantor: Sub-$36k pricing unlocks half of US new car market
“When you get those EVs below 35,000 dollars or in the 36,000 dollar or less range, you're unlocking about half of the U.S. New passenger car sales market.”
Corey Cantor Feb 1, 2024 ▶ 31:58 What’s really happening in the U.S. EV market?
Mar 14, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Matthew: Global EV sales growth is slowing toward 20% in 2024
“2020 to 21, you saw like a hundred percent growth. 21, 2021 to 22, you saw a 64% growth. And this is the global growth rate for electric vehicles defined as battery electric vehicles and plug in hybrid vehicles. And then you saw 33% growth in this last year, a…”
Shanu Matthew Mar 14, 2024 ▶ 21:15 Climate tech’s tough year in the public markets
Mar 14, 2024 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Matthew: EV 50% penetration forecasts have slipped from 2027–2028 to 2030+
“Where, you know, maybe 12 to 18 months ago, some folks had, you know, forecast that they were, had high conviction on that you could get 50% penetration by 27, 28, are now being pushed to, you know, maybe twenty-thirty or beyond, and that's largely as a result…”
Shanu Matthew Mar 14, 2024 ▶ 22:00 Climate tech’s tough year in the public markets
May 28, 2024 neutral
Insight
Faruqi: Net grid load impact of DERs remains uncertain
“Some of them will raise load growth, EVs and heat pumps certainly being those two. But then there are other DERs which will lower load growth, like energy efficiency, demand response, and certainly solar. So what will be the net effect of those is anybody's gu…”
Ahmad Faruqi May 28, 2024 ▶ 9:18 With Great Power: Why dynamic rates are gaining momentum
May 28, 2024 positive
Insight
Faruqi: Electric vehicles, not smart meters, drove time-of-use rate adoption
“The change that came was through a technology. Not digital meters, but through electric cars. Electric cars, or EVs as they're called, were the defining moment. Customers finally realized That they can lower their charging cost if they just charge during the o…”
Ahmad Faruqi May 28, 2024 ▶ 6:28 With Great Power: Why dynamic rates are gaining momentum
May 30, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lubbershane: Battery cost will not constrain vehicle electrification, but density will
“Cost of batteries to some degree, although I think we have increasing confidence that cost of batteries is not going to be the constraint on basically electrifying any class of vehicle, but density of batteries definitely does matter.”
Andy Lubershane May 30, 2024 ▶ 7:21 Heavy duty decarbonization
Jun 6, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Baglino: Average drivers only need to charge EVs every 3-4 days
“The average person driving, you know, less than 40 miles a day on average. In fact, like the 95th percentile trip is, is, is like 40 miles. You only really need to charge today's EVs with ranges of 200 to 300 miles once every Three days, four days”
Drew Baglino Jun 6, 2024 ▶ 11:15 Drew Baglino on Tesla’s Master Plan
Jun 20, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Huang: EV adoption has noticeably reduced pollution and noise in major Chinese cities
“One of the things you notice when you go to, you know, Beijing or Shanghai these days is that it's a lot less polluted and a lot quieter than it was 10 years ago if you went there. And part of the reason is because you see so many EVs, electric buses, and Ther…”
TP Huang (TP Wang) Jun 20, 2024 ▶ 8:30 Demystifying the Chinese EV market
Jun 20, 2024 positive
Insight
Huang: Tesla's Shanghai factory established premium EV perception in China
“It really got a jilt when Tesla's you know, opened up their factory in Shanghai, and that brought, like, a more of a premium feel to EVs in China, amongst the Chinese consumers.”
TP Huang (TP Wang) Jun 20, 2024 ▶ 4:10 Demystifying the Chinese EV market
Jul 25, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Berdichevsky: LFP batteries alone cannot achieve 100% EV fleet adoption
“I think that's a, it's a, it's going to be a huge part of the market, but it can't be the only thing we do because if it's the only thing we do, we may replace the, you know, we may replace half of the ground fleet with EVs, but not a hundred percent.”
Gene Berdichevsky Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 14:39 The EV market’s awkward teenage years
Jul 25, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Berdichevsky: Sodium-ion makes sense for grid storage, not electric vehicles
“I think sodium ion makes a ton of sense for the grid. I don't think it makes any sense for EVs.”
Gene Berdichevsky Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 17:22 The EV market’s awkward teenage years
Jul 25, 2024 positive
Insight
Berdichevsky: Volumetric energy density is the most critical metric for EVs
“The most, so my view, the most important metric for EVs is energy density, defined as watt-hours per liter, volumetric energy density.”
Gene Berdichevsky Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 9:15 The EV market’s awkward teenage years
Jul 25, 2024 positive
Insight
Berdichevsky: Mass EV adoption requires superior products, not just lower costs
“One thing to remember is, you know, people aren't going to buy EVs just because they're cheaper than gas cars. People are going to buy EVs faster if they're just better cars. And this is one of those things that EVs can offer that your combustion car just coul…”
Gene Berdichevsky Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 38:32 The EV market’s awkward teenage years
Jan 9, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Lafarge: EVs fell to third-biggest grid driver in just 24 months
“24 months ago, electric vehicles were the biggest driver of electrification growth, and now it's a distant third, and that happened stunningly quickly.”
Pierre Lafarge Jan 9, 2025 ▶ 6:16 Making DERs work for load growth
Feb 4, 2025 positive
Insight
Engstrom: Customers Opposing TOU Rates Often Willingly Accept EV Time-of-Use Rates
“Many customers who might say they don't they're opposed to time of use rates may have no issues at all with signing up for an EV rate, even though an EV rate typically is a time of use rate.”
Scott Engstrom Feb 4, 2025 ▶ 15:46 Are utilities ready to fully harness demand flexibility? [partner content]
May 1, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Octopus: 50% of EV customers enrolled in managed charging within 18 months
“We at Octopus, we 50% of our customers that have EVs have signed up to allow us to manage when we charge their EV in the last 18 months. That's 253 100,000 EVs, because it doesn't cost them anything.”
Nick Chaset May 1, 2025 ▶ 29:04 Catalyst Live at SF Climate Week
May 1, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Chaset: Load flexibility is massively underhyped because much flexibility is free
“I think load flexibility though is massively under hyped because a lot of the flexibility is free. Managing when you charge an EV is essentially free.”
Nick Chaset May 1, 2025 ▶ 28:53 Catalyst Live at SF Climate Week
May 1, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Schroepfer: EVs and manufacturing drive US power demand alongside data centers
“Overhyped in the sense that people over attribute data center load growth with electricity demand inside the United States. You know, manufacturing and EVs are a huge portion of that. So people think it's all data centers. It's not.”
Mike Schroepfer May 1, 2025 ▶ 18:50 Catalyst Live at SF Climate Week
May 15, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Palmer: Rideshare operators find EVs cost-accretive in dense urban markets
“On the rideshare side, in dense urban markets where there's a lot of traffic, we're hearing from operators, it's cost-accretive for them to run EVs instead of traditional vehicles because of the fuel savings.”
Neha Palmer May 15, 2025 ▶ 9:19 Terrawatt Infrastructure’s billion-dollar strategy
Jul 17, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lubershain: Policy setbacks will delay commercial fleet electrification by years
“Commercial fleets are very sensitive to cost, and so when EVs are the right economic choice and they feel confident in the infrastructure availability and, you know, in the performance, the range that they can get, they'll buy them. I think. And that's what, y…”
Andy Lubershane Jul 17, 2025 ▶ 43:48 Five big questions emerging from the OBBB
Jul 24, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
EVs consume 80% of battery production, driving future second-life grid supply
“I think it's something like 80% of the energy storage is going into EV. So that's where most of the gigawatt hours are going to come out. Which is really good for grid storage because those are the packs that are going to be easiest to redeploy. Those are the …”
Colin Campbell Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 21:54 Repurposing EV batteries for grid storage
Sep 4, 2025 negative
Opinion
Kann: Electric stoves are a small household load not worth prioritizing
“It is a small load in the house. If you, what you care about is, you know, electrifying stuff, you should, you really push people toward electric vehicles and electric HVAC and stoves don't really matter at the end of the day. So I just don't get it. I don't g…”
Shayle Kann Sep 4, 2025 ▶ 17:35 AMA: Geoengineering, nuclear, power prices, and more
Jun 11, 2026
Assertion Contradicted
China has auto overcapacity in every powertrain, not just electric vehicles
“EVs, PHEVs, hybrids, gasoline, they have overcapacity in every powertrain, and we're seeing exports to last year, half of them were EVs, half of them were gasoline-powered vehicles.”
Michael Dunne Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 7:08 How China is reshaping the global auto market
Jun 18, 2026 positive
Opinion
Kann: Autonomy breeds vehicle electrification and accelerates EV adoption
“Autonomous vehicles are almost certainly endemically electric vehicles. Like, it makes more sense for them to be electric vehicles, and the proof is in the pudding. All of the autonomous vehicles on the road today are electric vehicles, right? That is true of …”
Shayle Kann Jun 18, 2026 ▶ 23:35 Enter the electric supercycle
Jun 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lubershane: 2025 EV power demand growth matched data center growth globally
“The IEA recently came out with some data recently on global electricity demand growth, and it turns out that last year in 2025 from about, from a global standpoint, there was almost exactly as much electricity demand growth around the world from electric vehic…”
Andy Lubershane Jun 18, 2026 ▶ 13:20 Enter the electric supercycle
Jun 18, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lubershane: EVs benefited from early solar investments in power electronics
“Electric vehicles have obviously had, had this tremendous impact on, on batteries, but electric vehicles themselves benefited from early investments from the solar industry in, ah, power electronics, in wide band gap semiconductor materials, which enable highe…”
Andy Lubershane Jun 18, 2026 ▶ 16:06 Enter the electric supercycle
Jun 18, 2026 positive
Insight
Lubershane: EVs are the keystone driver of mass electrotech manufacturing
“Electric vehicles, which I really think are the, sort of the keystone species of this ecosystem, mainly because there's just so much, so many unit sales of electric vehicles, so as that market ramped up, it created a lot more Mass manufacturing demand and capa…”
Andy Lubershane Jun 18, 2026 ▶ 15:49 Enter the electric supercycle
Jul 23, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Letendre: EVs will be the largest source of grid flexibility
“There have been numerous studies that have shown that electric vehicles are the single largest source of grid flexibility that will be on the grid in the not too distant future”
Steve Letendre Jul 23, 2026 ▶ 31:48 The multi-billion dollar promise of vehicle-to-grid integration
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