demand response

12 statements across 8 episodes · 5 bullish · 0 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement Mar 11, 2022 by Astrid Atkinson · across every show →

Everything said about demand response, oldest first

Mar 11, 2022
Assertion Partly supported
Atkinson: Traditional utility demand response relied on manual phone calls to large customers
“Most utilities have had some form of demand response program in place for, you know, 10, 2030 years, but typically up until now they were really only participated in by very, very large customers because the mechanism actually was calling people on the phone t…”
Astrid Atkinson Mar 11, 2022 ▶ 33:37 What the grid can learn from the internet
Jan 26, 2023 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2033
Sachs: Classic behind-the-meter demand response will dominate DERs for 5-10 years
“I think if you looked forward five, 10 years, you might start to see that, that split start to break down, although kind of going back to what I said before, I think until we really work out this injection piece, that, that demand response, classic demand resp…”
Matthew Sachs Jan 26, 2023 ▶ 34:48 The journey to monetizing DERs
Dec 2, 2024 positive
Insight
Carnes: Modern virtual power plants allow precise scheduling unlike legacy demand response
“This isn't kind of the old demand response where you just push a button and then, like, you know, whatever you got. We're able to really kind of plan what load profile we want to provide, and we can schedule that accordingly. We can schedule those devices acco…”
Carrie Carnes Dec 2, 2024 ▶ 18:21 Frontier Forum: Why utilities should go big on VPPs
Mar 27, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Norris: Most demand response loads were initially planned as firm loads
“The vast majority of the loads that participate in demand response, they were planned as firm loads, right? So when the transmission provider ran their interconnection study, and the transmission plan for that jurisdiction, and then the reserve margin planning…”
Tyler Norris Mar 27, 2025 ▶ 13:42 The potential for flexible data centers
Mar 27, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Norris: Duke Energy mandates demand response for new 100-megawatt loads
“Duke Energy said at a public event that they are now going to require all new hyperscale loads above a hundred megawatts that participate in demand response.”
Tyler Norris Mar 27, 2025 ▶ 31:12 The potential for flexible data centers
May 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brown: Grid stress now extends far beyond traditional summer peak hours
“Those were really targeted towards, you know, peak hours of the year, right? You know, maybe 40 to 60 hours a year where we were really just dealing with a really, you know, a heat wave. Now, obviously, we're seeing one, you know, more variable weather through…”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 5:30 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
May 6, 2025 positive
Insight
Brown: Customer thermostat control drives higher demand response enrollment and retention
“When we first launched rush hour awards, 12 years ago, a lot of the intent there was to say, Hey, if we could prove out that customers with more control, the idea that they can always change the thermostat, adjust, always get to a different comfort set point i…”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 4:41 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Jul 31, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Piper: PJM accredits 100MW of solar as just 8 to 10MW
“If you bring a hundred megawatts of gas generation, we count that as about 70 megawatts of reserve contribution. If you bring a hundred megawatts of solar, we may count that as eight to 10 megawatts of reserve contribution. You know, very, very conservative, m…”
Steve Piper Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 25:25 PJM and the capacity crunch
Oct 2, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Guernsey: Demand response has shifted from summer peaks to year-round dispatch
“One, like, this notion that, like, the summer hottest, peakiest day is, like, the end all be all. That, that's gone. That was one point oh. So, we have winter peaks, we have shoulder issues because of outages and things like that. And so, just even, like, acro…”
Dana Guernsey Oct 2, 2025 ▶ 18:13 The new wave of DERs
Oct 2, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Kann: Demand response is rare climate category with venture-backed IPOs
“Demand response as a category can, I think, accurately claim to have actually produced a venture backed IPO, not even a SPAC, which is not true of many other categories that you see in vogue today.”
Shayle Kann Oct 2, 2025 ▶ 4:03 The new wave of DERs
Feb 12, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Siegel: PJM demand response participation stayed flat despite surging capacity prices
“So if you look at demand response and what's happened to demand response over the last several auctions we haven't had much more demand response participation in spite of the fact that the price signal has gone from virtually no payment for capacity to a very …”
Paul Siegel Feb 12, 2026 ▶ 9:06 PJM and ERCOT navigate a capacity rollercoaster
Feb 12, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Siegel predicts customer churn in demand response due to frequent dispatches
“So I anticipate that in that part of the market, the demand response piece, there's going to be customer churn. Some customers that said, we thought we were getting a payment, but you were never going to need us are going to say, we don't really want to partic…”
Paul Siegel Feb 12, 2026 ▶ 10:18 PJM and ERCOT navigate a capacity rollercoaster
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