Prediction Open AI assessment confidence: 85% certainty 3/5 debate potential 2/5

Sachs: Classic behind-the-meter demand response will dominate DERs for 5-10 years

Matthew Sachs · The journey to monetizing DERs · Jan 26, 2023 · at 34:48

Matthew Sachs of CPower assesses the long-term balance between classic load curtailment and emerging device-based DERs on the electric grid.

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“I think if you looked forward five, 10 years, you might start to see that, that split start to break down, although kind of going back to what I said before, I think until we really work out this injection piece, that, that demand response, classic demand response behind the meter is going to be A bigger DER than the others from a grid resource side, just because you won't get the benefits of injection quite yet.”

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