Tesla

includes Tesla Cybertruck, Tesla Model 3, Tesla Model X

22 statements across 17 episodes · 7 bullish · 9 bearish · 17 people on the record · first statement Apr 23, 2018 by Michael Cembalest · said 91 times in 47 episodes since 2018 · across every show →

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Everything said about Tesla, oldest first

Apr 23, 2018 bearish
Assertion Supported
Cembalest: Elon Musk's Tesla Pay Is an Outlier Compared to Major Indices
“Last week, I did a post on Tesla, a story in pictures, which was kind of a brutal and cruel assessment of everything you're going on at Tesla, including, by the way, a chart on CEO compensation that shows how much Elon Musk gets paid for a loss-making enterpri…”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 56:06 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Jun 29, 2020 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Tesla produces equal or more Scope 1 and 2 emissions than GM
“On scope one and two, for example, Tesla has the same or even more emissions per unit volume than do GM and Ford.”
Tony Davis Jun 29, 2020 ▶ 31:33 Sustainable Investing 7: Tony Davis – Hedge Fund Perspective at Inherent Group (Capital Allocators, EP.145)
Jul 6, 2020
Assertion Supported
Vision Ridge owned the largest US EV fast-charging network outside of Tesla
“And we had owned the largest electric vehicle fast charging network here in the U S other than Tesla.”
Reuben Munger Jul 6, 2020 ▶ 28:11 Sustainable Investing 9: Reuben Munger – Private Capital Perspective (Capital Allocators, EP.147)
Aug 3, 2020
Assertion Supported
Granade: Tesla and US Intelligence Were Early Domino Data Lab Customers
“So like Tesla was one of our first customers, parts of the U S intelligence community. We had a relationship with In-Q-Tel started using it”
Matthew Granade Aug 3, 2020 ▶ 13:50 Matthew Granade – Inside Data Science at Point72 (First Meeting, EP.22)
Feb 8, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Baran: InfoMart is probably worth $5B to $7B
“To give you an example, when we started investing in InfoMark, I remember the first day it had a market cap of sixty million dollars. And I couldn't understand for the life of me, like, what is this? It's like a series B round in the valley. This is a profitab…”
David Baran Feb 8, 2021 ▶ 1:02:11 David Baran and Kazuhiko Shibata – Friendly Activism in Japan at Symphony (Capital Allocators, EP.176)
Mar 15, 2021 positive
Insight
Ginns: Tesla's Purchase Forced Corporate Boards to Consider Bitcoin
“And then I think Elon, there's really a dynamic around Tesla's purchase, where if you were your typical board a few months ago, you were saying, do we really need to consider Bitcoin? This seems like a fringe dynamic. When Elon buys, it becomes, why aren't we …”
Seth Ginns Mar 15, 2021 ▶ 48:50 Crypto for Institutions 3: Seth Ginns – Investing Beyond Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.182)
Jul 8, 2021 bearish
Disclosure
Grantham: Tesla is not worth four times its pre-COVID value
“I own a Tesla. It's a wonderful car. I think they're a spectacularly interesting company, but are they four times the company they were before COVID? I don't think so.”
Jeremy Grantham Jul 8, 2021 ▶ 23:52 Jeremy Grantham – GMO (Manager Meetings, EP.01)
Aug 19, 2021 bearish
Opinion
Martin: Tesla is worth only $40 to $50 per share on cash flows
“I think, wherever Tesla is now, 500 plus a share, 600. It's probably, in our brains, I'd pay 40 or 50 bucks a share, but as a multiple Of the cash flow.”
Bruce Martin Aug 19, 2021 ▶ 44:12 Bruce Martin – Still Lake Capital [Manager Meetings, EP.7)
Oct 25, 2021 negative
Insight
Siloed investment committees risk paying fees for canceling overlapping long-short positions
“When I first came to Bowdoin, they had asset class committees. So they had a hedge fund committee, a core equity, private equity. And it was interesting because there were overlaps, but they're also like on the long, short funnel. Say they're a short Tesla, wh…”
Paula Volent Oct 25, 2021 ▶ 37:15 Paula Volent – Star Endowment Manager's Next Act at Rockefeller University (Capital Allocators, EP.219)
Jan 9, 2023 positive
Opinion
Lemkau: Musk's genius and fortitude kept Tesla alive during crisis
“And you forget Tesla's now taken off in such an incredible way, but you forget there were moments there when it was really his genius and fortitude that kept that company alive and let it go on and thrive.”
Gregg Lemkau Jan 9, 2023 ▶ 16:37 Gregg Lemkau - The Evolution of MSD (Capital Allocators, EP.291)
Jan 9, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Musk tweeted '$420 funding secured' before calling bankers to evaluate buyout
“And Elon put out his infamous tweet around four, 20 funding secured. Then he called the bankers, which was slightly out of order.”
Gregg Lemkau Jan 9, 2023 ▶ 14:12 Gregg Lemkau - The Evolution of MSD (Capital Allocators, EP.291)
Mar 13, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Bill Orum: Ion Yadigaroglu led Capricorn's early investment in Tesla
“So we started there and Jan led an investment in Tesla.”
Bill Orem Mar 13, 2023 ▶ 15:43 William Orum – Mission-Aligned Allocation at Capricorn (Climate Solutions EP.2, Capital Allocators EP.301)
Mar 13, 2023 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Orum: Tesla accelerated legacy automakers' EV plans by 10 to 20 years
“And then on top of that, there is what Tesla did in the OEM industry overall, which is it effectively brought forward The plans of all the other large automakers by likely 10 or 20 years.”
Bill Orem Mar 13, 2023 ▶ 30:42 William Orum – Mission-Aligned Allocation at Capricorn (Climate Solutions EP.2, Capital Allocators EP.301)
Jan 1, 2024 positive
Opinion
Housel: Elon Musk's Greatest Product Is Tesla Stock, Not Its Cars
“The greatest product that Elon Musk has ever made is not a Tesla car. It's not a SpaceX rocket. It's Tesla stock. It's the ticker TSLA. Because what he has done is he has told a more effective story about what Tesla might become in the future than maybe any ot…”
Morgan Housel Jan 1, 2024 ▶ 17:03 Morgan Housel – Same as Ever (EP.359)
Jan 11, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Sands Capital holds five of the Magnificent Seven, excluding Apple and Tesla
“And at the firm wide level, we own five of the seven across our various different portfolios. But two of them, in this case, Apple and Tesla are companies that we have not embraced.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 46:35 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Jan 11, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Tesla's valuation requires heavy speculation on autonomous and energy business adjacencies
“At this valuation, we think that you need much more than just car volumes, time, price, equal revenue, and earnings. You have to bake in a lot more for many of the adjacencies, including its autonomous fleet, and depending on where you are on those expectation…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 47:50 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Feb 26, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Milken: Tesla Lacked an Investment-Grade Rating Even Near a $1T Market Cap
“Tesla was not investment grade that even it was approaching a trillion dollars in market cap.”
Michael Milken Feb 26, 2024 ▶ 46:29 Michael Milken – Innovations in Finance, Medicine, and Education (EP.371)
Dec 22, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Sacerdote: Whale Rock bought Tesla at 4x three-year forward earnings
“When we first bought Tesla at the end of 2019 and 20 20, when the EV S curve really took off because Elon got the price Of the model three down to 40,000. And then we saw they had very good competitive advantages. We said, wow, they can do two million cars at …”
Alex Sacerdote Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 18:51 Top 5 of 2025: #4: Alex Sacerdote
Dec 22, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Sacerdote: Tesla S-Curve Collapsed to Zero as US Adoption Matured
“Tesla and the EVS curve was amazing, and they had a great competitive advantage, and they had underappreciated earnings power. But then that S curve went from being a 10 out of 10 to a zero out of 10 because it was mature in the USA. And the underappreciated e…”
Alex Sacerdote Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 32:54 Top 5 of 2025: #4: Alex Sacerdote
Dec 22, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sacerdote: Most EV startups chasing Tesla and BYD will fail
“And there are a lot of electric vehicle companies that tried to be Tesla or BYD, and they're all very likely to Either fail or not generate any profits.”
Alex Sacerdote Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 29:59 Top 5 of 2025: #4: Alex Sacerdote
Feb 2, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Lewinsohn: Hertz's post-bankruptcy crisis stemmed from Tesla residual value collapse
“Hertz had a problem coming out of their restructuring that they had too many Teslas. It wasn't only that people didn't want to rent Teslas. I think people found Tesla's interesting to rent. They're great cars. The problem was the residual value was much worse …”
Jonathan Lewinsohn Feb 2, 2026 ▶ 26:50 Jonathan Lewinsohn – Credit Microcycles at Diameter (EP.484)
Mar 2, 2026 negative
Insight
Baker: Long growth and short value pairs create levered factor risk
“You can't be long a stock like GM and be short Tesla. From a quantitative perspective, that makes no sense. If you're long growth and short value, that's equally painful. If you're long value and short growth, that means you're just levered value. If you're lo…”
Gavin Baker Mar 2, 2026 ▶ 46:36 Gavin Baker – Truth-Seeking and Crossover Investing at Atreides (EP.489)
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