Brian Christensen

Executive Managing Director, Sands Capital · 1 appearance on the record.

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Brian A. Christiansen leads high-conviction growth strategies at Sands Capital. He co-manages the firm's Emerging Markets Growth and Global Growth equity portfolios.

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Fundamental investors drive only 10% of U.S. equity trading volume today
“When I joined SANS back in 2006, I still remember it was something like 40% of trading volumes in the U.S. At that time were still being driven by fundamental investors. If you fast forward to today, it's maybe 10% of the market that's still doing that.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 39:46 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)

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Insight
A 90x P/E stock compounding at 45% remains an attractive investment
“If it's a 90 times PE company that's growing earnings only 10%, it's really hard to make the math work long term. But if it's a company that can compound earnings at 45% over the next five years, that can actually be very, very attractive. In an expected retur…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 19:17 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Opinion
Tesla's valuation requires heavy speculation on autonomous and energy business adjacencies
“At this valuation, we think that you need much more than just car volumes, time, price, equal revenue, and earnings. You have to bake in a lot more for many of the adjacencies, including its autonomous fleet, and depending on where you are on those expectation…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 47:50 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Sands Capital defines risk as business impairment, not market volatility
“The first type of risk that we're really trying to manage for is the impairment of the business relative to what we were modeling for that business over the next five years. So we call business impairment risk, and we call volatility risk. Volatility. We don't…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 29:06 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Disclosure
Sands Capital holds five of the Magnificent Seven, excluding Apple and Tesla
“And at the firm wide level, we own five of the seven across our various different portfolios. But two of them, in this case, Apple and Tesla are companies that we have not embraced.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 46:35 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Stock prices are predominantly driven by business earnings power over 5–7 years
“Really five to seven years is the minimum you need when the horse really starts pulling the cart, and so that's a fundamental sort of relationship that you have to believe in. Now, that doesn't mean you can completely ignore valuation, and valuation is One of …”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 12:57 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Shrinking public market investor time horizons create time-arbitrage opportunities
“The average time horizon for investors has shrunk rather than elongated. And I think that creates A time arbitrage opportunity, which essentially creates an inefficiency in the market.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 13:50 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Exceptional businesses defy mean reversion longer than markets price in
“Most businesses are not special. They may be able to grow at an above average rate for a year or two. But the power of mean reversion is very, very strong. However, what we believe is that there's a very small group of special businesses that can defy the laws…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 14:17 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Market leaders capture disproportionate economics in growth markets
“In many of the markets that we invest in, a disproportionate amount of the economics tend to accrue to the market leader, and therefore you want to own those businesses.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 15:25 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Growth without competitive advantage is merely market momentum
“The business that's growing at above average rate without competitive advantage, that's really just momentum.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 15:58 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Investing through economic downturns widens competitive moats against peers
“If you're a business that's able to continue to invest when your competitors can't, that actually allows you to expand your moat during a down economic cycle and accelerate coming out of it, which we're seeing with many of the businesses that we're invested be…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 17:01 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Sell-side models automatically fade corporate growth rates in years three through five
“Where we typically see the biggest deviations between what we're modeling for a business and sort of what's priced in the stock for looking at sell side models, for example, Is in years three, four, and five, and beyond. And one of the reasons for that is, one…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 20:13 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Isolate inevitable investment mistakes in smaller portfolio weight buckets
“Ultimately, you want to allocate a disproportionate amount of capital to your strongest fits with the criteria, and when you make mistakes, ideally you want them to be relegated to smaller bucket weights in the portfolio.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 28:01 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Largest portfolio weights historically drove disproportionate value in Sands strategies
“Ideally, what you'd like to see is when you're doing a look back over rolling previous five, 10 plus year basis, is that your largest weights were disproportionate Contributors to value creation for the portfolio, and then that you had fewer mistakes in your l…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 29:41 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Disclosure
Sands Private Equity paused capital deployment for over 12 months over valuations
“Well, is stay very, very disciplined, and actually, they put the brake on deploying capital when valuations had gotten too elevated and went well over 12 months without deploying additional capital during that time frame”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 38:44 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Assertion Supported
Fundamental investors drive only 10% of U.S. equity trading volume today
“When I joined SANS back in 2006, I still remember it was something like 40% of trading volumes in the U.S. At that time were still being driven by fundamental investors. If you fast forward to today, it's maybe 10% of the market that's still doing that.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 39:46 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
40% to 50% single-stock price swings on minor events are now common
“It's not uncommon now to see 40, 50% downward or upward stock moves in companies based on events that you historically didn't think would drive that type of short-term volatility.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 40:52 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Opinion
Adyen holds a backend cost advantage over most payment competitors
“And they've created a backend tech infrastructure where we think that they have a cost advantage versus the vast majority of their competitors.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 42:15 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
U.S. payments are commoditized compared to the complex European landscape
“And we'd always viewed the US market as more of a commodity-oriented market within that larger payment ecosystem anyways. You have a single currency. That's very different than the complexity of payments in Europe, for example, where you have far more cross-bo…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 43:21 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Disclosure
Sands Capital doubled its Adyen portfolio weighting after post-earnings stock plunge
“And when we kind of went through that entire thought process, we realized that we had as much conviction in Addion as we did before and decided to bring the weight back up to a large bucket weight and essentially double the weight size and take advantage of th…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 44:55 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Assertion Supported
Apple's five-year stock growth was driven by valuation expansion, not earnings
“If you were to take something like Apple over the last five years, a big driver of Apple's growth has actually been valuation driven rather than earnings driven.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 46:04 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's five-year stock growth was driven predominantly by earnings
“But then if you take something like Microsoft, for example, it's seen some multiple expansion, but the predominant driver of the exceptional stock price in Microsoft for the last five years has been earnings.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 46:13 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Electric vehicle adoption faces 12-to-18 month headwind from high interest rates
“We also think that we're probably in a pretty difficult digestion phase for EVs. Overall electric vehicle volumes in probably the next 1218 months, given the late impact of Higher interest rates and the wealth effect that that has on consumers and in their pur…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 48:27 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Opinion
Nubank is globally one of the most attractive digital banks
“Nubank, for example, which is a business and a management team that we admire, building one of the most attractive digital banks, not just in Brazil, where it's a leader, but really when you're stack ranking it up globally, and they have a very disciplined fra…”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 53:22 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)
Insight
Strong opinions on too many topics impair rational updating of information
“I just feel like if you have really strong opinions on too many things, the chances of you being able to rationally update your thinking on things is probably pretty low.”
Brian Christensen Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 57:37 Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361)

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Brian Christiansen – High-Conviction Growth Investing at Sands Capital (EP.361) Jan 11, 2024 53m
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