gold

18 statements across 16 episodes · 13 bullish · 4 bearish · 15 people on the record · first statement Feb 11, 2019 by Chris Ailman · across every show →

Everything said about gold, oldest first

Feb 11, 2019 bearish
Disclosure
CalSTRS Research Found Gold Fails as an Inflation Hedge
“We took a deep dive, look at gold. Is it a commodity? Is it an inflation hedge? Is it a currency hedge? What the heck is it? And came back with a lot. And unfortunately the answer is for us, it wasn't any of those, but some of our peers have bought it.”
Chris Ailman Feb 11, 2019 ▶ 53:22 Chris Ailman – CalSTRS' Venerable CIO (Capital Allocators, EP.86)
Aug 12, 2019 bullish
Opinion
Novogratz: Bitcoin is finished as a project and serves as digital gold
“Bitcoin's kind of done. The project is finished. It's good enough to be decentralized gold. It doesn't have to change.”
Mike Novogratz Aug 12, 2019 ▶ 32:13 Michael Novogratz – Galaxy Digital (First Meeting, EP.06)
Oct 7, 2019 negative
Opinion
Tepper: Gold works only as a negative real rates bet, gold mines are terrible
“Gold essentially could be a useful investment given that it's the inverse of the real rate. So to the extent that real rates are negative, it might be good investment, but gold mines themselves are terrible. And gold has a limited function in terms of a bet on…”
Jonathan Tepper Oct 7, 2019 ▶ 52:42 Jonathan Tepper - Variant Perception of Capitalism (Capital Allocators, EP.110)
Oct 26, 2020 bullish
Opinion
Papic: Bullish on the euro and gold amid dollar weakness
“I am bullish the euro. I think that if you are bearish on the dollar for the next decade, you gotta be bullish on something. There's obviously gold, which I would be bullish on, but I think the euro is interesting.”
Marko Papic Oct 26, 2020 ▶ 39:43 Marko Papic – Geopolitical Alpha at Clocktower Group (Capital Allocators, EP.161)
Mar 8, 2021 bullish
Insight
Peters: Digital Assets Offer a Technological Call Option That Gold Lacks
“You kind of have this call option on technology when you buy these assets that you don't have in gold. Like gold will be the same, In 2000 years as it was 2000 years ago, but these assets are going to be different and improved in a year and 10 years and a hund…”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 32:18 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Peters: Crypto Is a Deeply Discounted, Highly Convex Version of Gold
“These assets are just uniquely positioned to do well, by the way, gold should do well as well, except these are just this really interesting, highly convex version of gold. That's I think just deeply discounted.”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 29:49 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 11, 2021 bullish
Assertion Supported
Sonnenshein: Institutional allocators are rotating out of gold funds into Bitcoin
“Some investors are carving out some of their gold allocation and moving it into digital assets like Bitcoin. We don't find it the least bit coincidental that we saw some of the largest outflows on record from gold funds in Q four of last year when Bitcoin star…”
Michael Sonnenshein Mar 11, 2021 ▶ 39:46 Crypto for Institutions 2 – Michael Sonnenshein – A Path to Entry (Capital Allocators, EP.181)
Mar 11, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Sonnenshein: Bitcoin is digital gold, not a daily transaction currency
“In the developed world, Bitcoin is at a minimum in today use case, It's digital gold. It's speculative in nature, and it may not be anything in our lifetimes other than a digital store of value. It certainly has the potential to be all kinds of other things, b…”
Michael Sonnenshein Mar 11, 2021 ▶ 41:31 Crypto for Institutions 2 – Michael Sonnenshein – A Path to Entry (Capital Allocators, EP.181)
Sep 27, 2021 bearish
Disclosure
Barth: Firm avoids crypto because its only thesis is greater-fool pricing
“I think of crypto as a commodity like gold, and I have a very hard time, or we as a firm have a very hard time investing in anything where the only investment case is that someone will pay more in the future than you do today.”
Brett Barth Sep 27, 2021 ▶ 7:54 Friends Reunion – Five Allocators Riff on Investing (Capital Allocators, EP.215)
Oct 4, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Sternlicht: Bitcoin is as good as gold and arguably better
“Can't be used for much, but it's certainly as good as gold and arguably slightly better because it's an infinite supply and easily accessible.”
Barry Sternlicht Oct 4, 2021 ▶ 50:07 Barry Sternlicht – Masterclass in Real Estate in a Post-COVID World (Capital Allocators, EP.216)
Feb 21, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wolfe: Crypto Market Cap Could Reach $5.5 Trillion by Displacing Gold
“If you accept just as a store of value the total gold market at 11 trillion dollars, half of that, five and a half trillion dollars, if you just had generational shift where people said, you know what, I prefer this in the same way they prefer Bonobos to Docke…”
Josh Wolfe Feb 21, 2022 ▶ 43:14 Josh Wolfe – Caution and Innovation at Lux Capital, Venture is Eating the Investment World 8 (Capital Allocators, EP.236)
Apr 25, 2022 bullish
Opinion
Gave: Gold and Bitcoin are the only two off-the-grid assets for the wealthy
“If you're, I think, a super rich guy, you probably think, I need to have some assets that are off the grid, for lack of a better word. And there's only two of them, really. It's gold and it's bitcoin.”
Louis-Vincent Gave Apr 25, 2022 ▶ 27:04 Louis-Vincent Gave – Macro Consequences of Government Sanctions (Capital Allocators, EP.247)
May 16, 2022 bearish
Opinion
Makena's Larry Kochard does not believe cryptocurrency is digital gold
“Because we're not believers that this is going to be digital gold. I've also never been a big believer in gold.”
Larry Kochard May 16, 2022 ▶ 53:06 Larry Kochard – From Endowment Professor to OCIO Chief at Makena Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.250)
Jul 3, 2023 bullish
Disclosure
Collins: Seawolf holds long gold as short against US balance sheet
“One of the things that looks like a short, but isn't is our long gold position.”
Porter Collins Jul 3, 2023 ▶ 35:23 Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
Jan 29, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Future Fund Added Gold in 2020 to Hedge Populist Currency Debasement
“In 2020 we put gold into the portfolio for the first time because we saw that more populist governments would be more likely to print money or otherwise debase their currencies because that's what governments always do when they're in those sort of situations,…”
Raphael Arndt Jan 29, 2024 ▶ 18:55 Raphael Arndt – The Death of Traditional Portfolio Construction? (EP.365)
Nov 4, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Bessent: Gold is my largest position in a long-term bull market
“Then I think we are in a long-term bull market in gold. I think we're seeing reserve accumulation by central banks. I follow it closely. It's my biggest position.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 55:23 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Dec 16, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Peters: Bitcoin Convexity Will Decline and Trade Like Gold
“At some point, it won't be that highly convex because the overall market cap will be so high and so many people will be in that it'll probably trade a bit more like gold, where gold sometimes trades like a great inflation hedge and sometimes it doesn't.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 33:03 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Apr 6, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Gold Benefits Most From Sustained Inflation and Geopolitical Restructuring
“We're in a period now of a total and complete restructuring of the geopolitical equilibrium. We're in a period of sustained higher inflation. There's one asset that fills that gap that's created when things change like that. All that change leads to fear, unce…”
Bruce MacDonald Apr 6, 2026 ▶ 39:18 Bruce MacDonald – The Playbook for Building a Mid-Sized Endowment from Scratch (EP.495)
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